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Phileas Fogg

Bobby Reid - Gone to Fulham on Loan

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9 minutes ago, mozo said:

Oh okay. Has it been corroborated somewhere reliable?

I don’t hear much but when I do I have no doubt to the validity. I just don’t shout it from the rooftops claiming I’m ITK :) 

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1 minute ago, mozo said:

I don't know about O'Rourke but the list of unreliable Nixon links over the years is ridiculous 

Yep. He's not half as reliable as he's made out to be.

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2 minutes ago, mozo said:

I don't know about O'Rourke but the list of unreliable Nixon links over the years is ridiculous 

Nixon tweets all day about transfers and will get some wrong, but that's inevitable. The combination of both he and O'Rouke running with it is more significant.

You also piece together the other information - we know (depending on whether you trust OTIB posters or not) we were in for him in Jan and that deal was going to happen pre-Salah. That also proves that we found a way to make the deal work financially and that Cardiff were willing to do it provided they bought in another striker.

 

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1 minute ago, TomF said:

I don’t hear much but when I do I have no doubt to the validity. I just don’t shout it from the rooftops claiming I’m ITK :) 

Okay, I'll go with you on that. I'd still like one more reliable link for this to appear genuine.

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53 minutes ago, INB Red said:

Is this not what I just said?

No, it very much reads like you said the opposite of that. 

I think in the long run I'd probably be satisfied with signing Reid. Right now after lots of new names got thrown in our faces, signing Reid does feel a bit like a deflating balloon, but he's probably the perfect forward for us realistically. 

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I'm clearly in the minority. It's a no for  me. I honestly dont think he can repeat that season. May get 10 goals a season for a championship outfit. Wages to high

Seems a very reasonable view from anyone who watched his whole City career.

There's a chance he might come close to repeating it but we need a proven goalscorer imo. and as things stand BR has had one exceptional season and that may be it for his career.

SL told us not to become too attached to players but some seem overly attached to Bobby.

He wasn't a success for Cardiff in the PL - had he been there would be far bigger clubs than City after him now.

There's a danger that re-signing Bobby would mostly be done on sentiment and to placate disappointed fans post the (apparent) Nketiah disappointment but our recruitment is surely far more professional than that these days.

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4 minutes ago, TomF said:

I don’t hear much but when I do I have no doubt to the validity. I just don’t shout it from the rooftops claiming I’m ITK :) 

but those you accuse you of not being itk you delete their accounts and block their ip address

3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Nixon tweets all day about transfers and will get some wrong, but that's inevitable. The combination of both he and O'Rouke running with it is more significant.

You also piece together the other information - we know (depending on whether you trust OTIB posters or not) we were in for him in Jan and that deal was going to happen pre-Salah. That also proves that we found a way to make the deal work financially and that Cardiff were willing to do it provided they bought in another striker.

 

nixon is about as reliable as @realagent292 on twitter,

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2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Nixon tweets all day about transfers and will get some wrong, but that's inevitable. The combination of both he and O'Rouke running with it is more significant.

You also piece together the other information - we know (depending on whether you trust OTIB posters or not) we were in for him in Jan and that deal was going to happen pre-Salah. That also proves that we found a way to make the deal work financially and that Cardiff were willing to do it provided they bought in another striker.

 

Again, Nixon uses the phrase "keeping an eye on" which means nothing to me!

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1 minute ago, mozo said:

Again, Nixon uses the phrase "keeping an eye on" which means nothing to me!

Ok - well you're clearly taking this rumour with a pinch of salt and won't be persuaded until someone you trust says something, and that's fine.

I'm choosing to think that we are interested and Reid may well be our player by 5pm today.

Let's see what happens.. 

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11 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Seems a very reasonable view from anyone who watched his whole City career.

There's a chance he might come close to repeating it but we need a proven goalscorer imo. and as things stand BR has had one exceptional season and that may be it for his career.

SL told us not to become too attached to players but some seem overly attached to Bobby.

He wasn't a success for Cardiff in the PL - had he been there would be far bigger clubs than City after him now.

There's a danger that re-signing Bobby would mostly be done on sentiment and to placate disappointed fans post the (apparent) Nketiah disappointment but our recruitment is surely far more professional than that these days.

It’s worth reading that Cardiff thread, they seem to LOVE him. Not saying that equals 20 goals but they obviously thought he looked a good player even in the prem. Points to the possibility he could hit another 20 when played in the right position by his manager and at the least make a significant attacking impact. Have to remember it’s not just his goals but his assists that he brings to the team. 

Weighing it all up, if we could get him for 8-10 I’d be happy.  Still might get EN as well, then we’d be looking v good. 

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15 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Ok - well you're clearly taking this rumour with a pinch of salt and won't be persuaded until someone you trust says something, and that's fine.

I'm choosing to think that we are interested and Reid may well be our player by 5pm today.

Let's see what happens.. 

I actually hope you're right. I think Reid is now the safest, if slightly uninspiring, option left.

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5 minutes ago, mozo said:

I actually hope you're right. I think Reid is now the safest, if slightly uninspiring, option left.

I think this one is likely. LJ loves him and if he is surplus to requirements at Cardiff he would probably fancy the move.

Lets hope we get the re-boot Bobby and not version 1.0

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14 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Seems a very reasonable view from anyone who watched his whole City career.

There's a chance he might come close to repeating it but we need a proven goalscorer imo. and as things stand BR has had one exceptional season and that may be it for his career.

SL told us not to become too attached to players but some seem overly attached to Bobby.

He wasn't a success for Cardiff in the PL - had he been there would be far bigger clubs than City after him now.

There's a danger that re-signing Bobby would mostly be done on sentiment and to placate disappointed fans post the (apparent) Nketiah disappointment but our recruitment is surely far more professional than that these days.

I think that’s a harsh view on Reid. He didn’t tear it up in the Premier League with Cardiff but I was one of many people at the time who thought he just wasn’t the type of player who’d fit a Warnock team. 

As for the one season wonder thing, he only really played regularly up front for us in that one season. The rest of the time he was in and out of the side playing much deeper. He always looked promising but that move higher up the pitch seemed to unlock his potential in a way which surpassed all expectations. He might not be able to repeat that form, but equally he might prove to be a master stroke of a signing. 

I don’t believe that signing Reid would be a sentimental decision. In many ways it would be pragmatic. He knows the way we play, fits the system and knows the club, manager and players. I would be all for his return for those reasons. 

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Bobby did not have a prayer playing for Warnock in the Premier League.

Firstly they were a poor side creating nothing.

Secondly he never got a fair run of games and was in and out of the team.

Thirdly he was stuck on his own up front.

Fourthly when he was picked he was often substituted.

Fifthly they were a long ball team. 

It was about the worst possible environment for a player of his type. And yet he still showed his quality and won the heart of the Cardiff fans. It is still hard to imagine that Cardiff don't want a player like that for the Championship, and do want to give him to a rival, but if they do we should all be celebrating. 

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I don't care if Bobby comes back here an only scores a handful, he brings so much more to the team than goals. 

God what I'd do to get back to having anything near that purple patch in the 17/18 season with high press & neat intricate, exciting football. 

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56 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Based on what? I'd say it's far more plausible than Charlie Austin.

Biggest barrier to this in my opinion would be if Cardiff are happy to sell to a divisional rival or not.

Like you said just cant see Cardiff wanting to sell him back to us...

Cant see Charlie Austin coming to us either far bigger barriers than the Reid speculation.  

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3 minutes ago, keflav said:

not sure how much substance there was in that either...!

Plenty. It was all set till Salahs plane crash 

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3 minutes ago, Oops said:

Bobby’s just re-added his City highlights onto his Twitter apparently 🤷‍♂️

It’s his Instagram and he did that yesterday

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14 minutes ago, Jacki said:

I think that’s a harsh view on Reid. He didn’t tear it up in the Premier League with Cardiff but I was one of many people at the time who thought he just wasn’t the type of player who’d fit a Warnock team. 

As for the one season wonder thing, he only really played regularly up front for us in that one season. The rest of the time he was in and out of the side playing much deeper. He always looked promising but that move higher up the pitch seemed to unlock his potential in a way which surpassed all expectations. He might not be able to repeat that form, but equally he might prove to be a master stroke of a signing. 

I don’t believe that signing Reid would be a sentimental decision. In many ways it would be pragmatic. He knows the way we play, fits the system and knows the club, manager and players. I would be all for his return for those reasons. 

Cardiff fans don't like the idea of him leaving either. That says a lot.

Very hard for a player like Reid to shine in a team with Cardiff's style fighting relegation. Seems a strange signing in hindsight. 

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10 minutes ago, keflav said:

not sure how much substance there was in that either...!

Respectable posters on here were saying it - people who have been posting for years and don't make up things for the sake of it.

Up to you of course, but for me that rumour came from a reliable source.

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3 minutes ago, Sturny said:

So BR is the next most likely through the door? 

Difficult to say at this stage. Only being reported at a national level by Nixon and O'Rouke who, although are fairly high-profile and respectable, aren't exactly City or Cardiff specialists.

I think it's pretty likely - makes perfect sense. 

Can't say he's 'most likely' yet until someone local runs with the story. Neither McGregor nor Durden have said anything definite yet.

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1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Difficult to say at this stage. Only being reported at a national level by Nixon and O'Rouke who, although are fairly high-profile and respectable, aren't exactly City or Cardiff specialists.

I think it's pretty likely - makes perfect sense. 

Can't say he's 'most likely' yet until someone local runs with the story. Neither McGregor nor Durden have said anything definite yet.

And I'll add that the aformentioned football rumour peddlars have only said we're interested. No offers or negotiations reported.

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I would imagine Bobby Reid, if he signs for us, will not be shown on the roof as he has seen it plenty of times already when he has followed the ball after one of Fammy's shots or Tomlin's penalties.

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2 hours ago, Agard Days Night said:

Because he clearly didn’t offer enough proof to LJ that he deserved to stay in that position. So now he plays out of position out wide where he offers very little, stealing the place of a genuine midfielder with impact.

The truth is, for all the brilliantly hilarious emoji responses to me from the masses on OTIB yesterday, if the fans are so wildly enamoured with Weimann and he offers so much going forward - why is everybody desperate for a striker? With the stats you’ve stated, he’s the answer, no? 

I think there are some of us that think that unless you can get better than Weimann, don’t bother signing anyone else.  There are quite a lot of us who think Weimann is better suited to LJ’s one up top than the player he keeps picking (Diedhiou).  I think the £5.3m millstone is round both Fam and LJ’s neck.  In fairness to Fam he has played better away from home, and maybe that clouds LJ’s judgement.  I see the recruitment of technical midfielders that would want to play off of Fam, but can’t because he can’t do that.

i think Weimann is much better suited to the way LJ says he wants to play.  Weimann’s record as the striker (on his own) far outweighs Fam’s.  As a pair their records are fairly even....as a RW it’s shit.

LJ needs to pick players “in position” and on merit.

2 hours ago, Agard Days Night said:

Please see my response above if you’ve got time.

I have, seeing as you asked so nicely 😀

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think there are some of us that think that unless you can get better than Weimann, don’t bother signing anyone else.  There are quite a lot of us who think Weimann is better suited to LJ’s one up top than the player he keeps picking (Diedhiou).  I think the £5.3m millstone is round both Fam and LJ’s neck.  In fairness to Fam he has played better away from home, and maybe that clouds LJ’s judgement.  I see the recruitment of technical midfielders that would want to play off of Fam, but can’t because he can’t do that.

i think Weimann is much better suited to the way LJ says he wants to play.  Weimann’s record as the striker (on his own) far outweighs Fam’s.  As a pair their records are fairly even....as a RW it’s shit.

LJ needs to pick players “in position” and on merit.

I have, seeing as you asked so nicely 😀

Weinman was at his best last season alongside Taylor. Once fam became available we never saw that combination again. Perhaps the answer is already on out doorstep?

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I find it baffling the amount of people saying that because Reid has only done it once in the Championship we shouldn't sign him. When Tammy had a good season, everyone wanted him to stay. Imagine if we were offered Pukki or McBurnie?

Reid has only had one season in the Championship as a striker, after some hard work from both him and LJ, and he was only 24 so unsurprisingly wasn't the finished article before that. People expect 20 goal a season strikers from 18-19-20 and that just isn't that common. And during that year with us, he was unplayable at times. He wasn't utilised correctly by Warnock in the Prem so it's not really a fair judgment on that.

I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Look how many people would have taken Tammy back after one good season in the Champ and then a failed season with Swansea in the Prem? 

People say our view of wanting him back is clouded by sentiment and the fact that he's played for us before; but I'd be tempted to say it's the same sentiment that is making people not want him.

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think there are some of us that think that unless you can get better than Weimann, don’t bother signing anyone else.  There are quite a lot of us who think Weimann is better suited to LJ’s one up top than the player he keeps picking (Diedhiou).  I think the £5.3m millstone is round both Fam and LJ’s neck.  In fairness to Fam he has played better away from home, and maybe that clouds LJ’s judgement.  I see the recruitment of technical midfielders that would want to play off of Fam, but can’t because he can’t do that.

i think Weimann is much better suited to the way LJ says he wants to play.  Weimann’s record as the striker (on his own) far outweighs Fam’s.  As a pair their records are fairly even....as a RW it’s shit.

LJ needs to pick players “in position” and on merit.

I have, seeing as you asked so nicely 😀

If Bobby did come back, would Fammy go?

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3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

If Bobby did come back, would Fammy go?

no they would reignite their partnership that worked so well

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1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

If Bobby did come back, would Fammy go?

Personally, I think Fammy still has a role with us. A fair few opposition supporters like him which, to me, says he's not as bad as people on here make out. Maybe, as mentioned elsewhere, he's more effective away from home plus I think his defensive assistance would be missed if he were to leave.

That said, we are very player heavy now and further additions must surely mean a few are due to leave.

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Can’t prove the reliability of the source - but a bloke I work with knows a few of the Cardiff City staff and has said Cardiff will sell Reid for the right fee - however Reid would prefer to go to Fulham over City.

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7 minutes ago, RAD_Red said:

Can’t prove the reliability of the source - but a bloke I work with knows a few of the Cardiff City staff and has said Cardiff will sell Reid for the right fee - however Reid would prefer to go to Fulham over City.

Sky reporting that Fulham are interested in him as well as us. 

6 hours 13 to go!

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8 minutes ago, RAD_Red said:

Can’t prove the reliability of the source - but a bloke I work with knows a few of the Cardiff City staff and has said Cardiff will sell Reid for the right fee - however Reid would prefer to go to Fulham over City.

accept fulham don't need a striker, fulham aren't interested in a striker, fulham aren't actively bidding for a striker

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