the1stknowle Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Look, we probably do need a striker. But if you'd have given me the choice between getting a striker or getting some competition in the centre of midfield, then I choose sorting out central midfield. I think it's been our big problem for years. Im sure we will bring in someone up front tomorrow, if not Nketiah. But if we can get Nagy over line then I think those 2 midfielders bought in this week are the key for us this season. Even if we don't bring anyone up front, Weimann (played centrally), Semenyo, Taylor, Janneh and Fam feeding off Palmer, Pato, Eliasson, CoD and Sammy should bring goals. But we need the ball moving through midfield and need it back quicker when we lose it. The added quality competition will be good for Marlon and Walsh (if he stays). And also, we should all be really excited about seeing if Semenyo and Janneh can step up this year. So I know I'll be pretty much alone in this but Im pretty sanguine about the striker situation and a lot happier about season now the midfield has been bolstered, assuming we get Nagy in (even if we do lose Josh tomorrow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, the1stknowle said: Look, we probably do need a striker. But if you'd have given me the choice between getting a 9 or getting some competition in at 8 and 6, then I choose sorting out central midfield. I think it's been our big problem for years. Im sure we will bring in a 9 tomorrow, if not Nketiah. But if we can get Nagy over line then I think those 2 midfielders bought in this week are the key for us this season. Even if we don't bring anyone up front, Weimann (played centrally), Semenyo, Taylor, Janneh and Fam feeding off Palmer, Pato, Eliasson, CoD and Sammy should bring goals. But we need the ball moving through midfield and need it back quicker when we lose it. The added quality competition will be good for Marlon and Walsh (if he stays). And also, we should all be really excited about seeing if Semenyo and Janneh can step up this year. So I know I'll be pretty much alone in this but Im pretty sanguine about the striker situation and a lot happier about season now the midfield has been bolstered, assuming we get Nagy in (even if we do lose Josh tomorrow). In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackofromSanJavier Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! Crikey, you're a youngster then! Pre - Alf Ramsay, the number 6 was always worn by the left half………as 'sported' by Nobby Stiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! Old git! Get up to date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! Old git! Get up to date! Nobby was 4. Sir Bobby Moore was 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, JackofromSanJavier said: Crikey, you're a youngster then! Pre - Alf Ramsay, the number 6 was always worn by the left half………as 'sported' by Nobby Stiles. Blimey! What numbers did the centre halves wear back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, JackofromSanJavier said: Crikey, you're a youngster then! Pre - Alf Ramsay, the number 6 was always worn by the left half………as 'sported' by Nobby Stiles. Sir Bobby was 6 Nobby was 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Old git! Get up to date! Nobby was 4. Sir Bobby Moore was 6. So you’re agreeing with me then?! As I said, back then 4 was a midfielder and 6 was a centre half ... although, Nobby only wore 4 for England - he adorned 6, 8 and 10 for Man Yoo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: In my day 6 was a centre half ... 8 (or 10) and 4 were the central midfielders with 7 and 11 out wide - happy days! You are obviously younger than me! In my day 6 was right half, 8 or 10 was inside right or left and 7 and 11 were left and right wingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, iamsober said: You are obviously younger than me! In my day 6 was right half, 8 or 10 was inside right or left and 7 and 11 were left and right wingers! 4 was right half in my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: 4 was right half in my day! yes 6 was left half! apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Obviously depended which side of the pitch you were watching from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Midred said: Obviously depended which side of the pitch you were watching from! Not if you are a player in the team! Your logic indicates that a number 9 could be the goal keeper depending on which end you were watching from!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 In my day the number 2 was a keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, alexukhc said: In my day the number 2 was a keeper In your day he must have been 2nd choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, iamsober said: Not if you are a player in the team! Your logic indicates that a number 9 could be the goal keeper depending on which end you were watching from!!!! Funny you should say that, according to one of the Leeds team set ups a couple 9f weeks ago they had Roofe in goal and Ayling on the left wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, iamsober said: In your day he must have been 2nd choice! He wasn’t... he played for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 This has to be the best ‘thread derailment’ in forum history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Number 5 was centre half. 2 & 3 right and left back 4 & 6 right and left wing half 7 & 11 right and left wing 8 & 10 inside right and inside left, 9 centre forward. All of this is in old money i.e.pre decimalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Games are won and lost in both boxes-at the moment we lack the proven quality to keep clean Sheets and score more than 1 a game. If we don’t get a quality centre back and striker then we will finish in the bottom half regardless of how good our midfield is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, the1stknowle said: Look, we probably do need a striker. But if you'd have given me the choice between getting a striker or getting some competition in the centre of midfield, then I choose sorting out central midfield. I think it's been our big problem for years. Im sure we will bring in someone up front tomorrow, if not Nketiah. But if we can get Nagy over line then I think those 2 midfielders bought in this week are the key for us this season. Even if we don't bring anyone up front, Weimann (played centrally), Semenyo, Taylor, Janneh and Fam feeding off Palmer, Pato, Eliasson, CoD and Sammy should bring goals. But we need the ball moving through midfield and need it back quicker when we lose it. The added quality competition will be good for Marlon and Walsh (if he stays). And also, we should all be really excited about seeing if Semenyo and Janneh can step up this year. So I know I'll be pretty much alone in this but Im pretty sanguine about the striker situation and a lot happier about season now the midfield has been bolstered, assuming we get Nagy in (even if we do lose Josh tomorrow). I said that a fortnight ago, that if we got the midfield right our forwards would score more, and the midfield itself might contribute more. 55 minutes ago, downendcity said: Number 5 was centre half. 2 & 3 right and left back 4 & 6 right and left wing half 7 & 11 right and left wing 8 & 10 inside right and inside left, 9 centre forward. All of this is in old money i.e.pre decimalisation. Yep, I wore 5, or if on the bench 14 (1+4=5) of 15 (because it had a 5 in it). Even in a short spell playing up top I still wore 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Games are won and lost in both boxes-at the moment we lack the proven quality to keep clean Sheets and score more than 1 a game. If we don’t get a quality centre back and striker then we will finish in the bottom half regardless of how good our midfield is Yes that's where the goals take place but increasingly, the side who wins the midfield wins the game. We don't win the midfield enough- part personnel, part system I reckon. Hopefully this will now change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Through watching primarily in the 90s and early 2000s I always saw it as: 1. GK 2. RB 3. LB 4. CB or CM 5. CB 6. CB 7. RM/RW 8. CM 9. ST 10. ST 11. LM/LW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 hours ago, the1stknowle said: Look, we probably do need a striker. But if you'd have given me the choice between getting a striker or getting some competition in the centre of midfield, then I choose sorting out central midfield. I think it's been our big problem for years. Im sure we will bring in someone up front tomorrow, if not Nketiah. But if we can get Nagy over line then I think those 2 midfielders bought in this week are the key for us this season. Even if we don't bring anyone up front, Weimann (played centrally), Semenyo, Taylor, Janneh and Fam feeding off Palmer, Pato, Eliasson, CoD and Sammy should bring goals. But we need the ball moving through midfield and need it back quicker when we lose it. The added quality competition will be good for Marlon and Walsh (if he stays). And also, we should all be really excited about seeing if Semenyo and Janneh can step up this year. So I know I'll be pretty much alone in this but Im pretty sanguine about the striker situation and a lot happier about season now the midfield has been bolstered, assuming we get Nagy in (even if we do lose Josh tomorrow). Exactly, no point in having new strikers if you aren’t got the quality to get the ball t them in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Games are won and lost in both boxes-at the moment we lack the proven quality to keep clean Sheets and score more than 1 a game. If we don’t get a quality centre back and striker then we will finish in the bottom half regardless of how good our midfield is Not quite, a solid midfield will prevent pressure on the back 4/5 and support the attackers. Midfield is where we struggled and eventually “failed” last season when we dropped out the playoffs. I rate Marlon but he needed help, he was clearly running on empty come the last 7/8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Portland Bill said: Exactly, no point in having new strikers if you aren’t got the quality to get the ball t them in the first place. yep, I've been saying it for 5 years now, people are finally waking up to the fact that our central midfield has never been good enough during that time, People have blamed Moore for two goals sunday, but if our midfield did its job he wouldn't of been in the situation to make those mistakes, on the otherside of the coin, leed won because they over ran us in midfield, our midfield and thats all of them, o'dowda, pack, brownhill, weinman and palmer did no defensive work, little attacking work, leaving both fammy and the defense badly exposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 I wouldn't say our priority has always been the midfield. Up to when Korey was injured we were OK in that area but way back before then we have been short up front We can all see it, just amazing transfer window after transfer window it is still not addressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, billywedlock said: We have been chasing strikers for 3 transfer windows. If anything we need 2, with Taylor moving on. Though I fully agree about the midfield weaknesses. Still feel we look physically lightweight for the championship rough and tumble. Korey has been a huge loss. Will b e interesting to see the attributes of the new players and how they will fit in. We have a big big squad now. This is certainly going to be Lees squad ,/ plan / playing ethos now Nimble / busy bees / maybe lightweight / footballing .....ethos Interesting for sure ........ hang on tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackofromSanJavier Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 12 hours ago, cidered abroad said: Sir Bobby was 6 Nobby was 4 Ah thanks, old memory issues for me! Saw him gracing 6 quite a lot at at Old Trafford before I hit my teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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