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Ádám Nagy - some extra insight from a Hungarian

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Hmmmm........a DM......will this mean the end for Pack?...........:dunno:

I don’t think so. Pack played every game last season and had the most minutes played in the squad, which really showed in some matches. For example, he looked completely burnt out and flat against Ipswich at home. 

This will be beneficial for him as well as the rest of the squad, we could see him playing in a freer midfield role alongside Nagy as well, the type we saw him play alongside Smith a few seasons back. 

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1 hour ago, Hunsupport said:

Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose :) ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. :)

 

I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch.

 

When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed.

 

 

He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season.

 

“ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him.

 

Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it.

 

In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months...

 

So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. :) When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad.

 

Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end.

Top man @Hunsupport. So he's a proper magnificent Magyar and his name sounds like Natch. Bloody marvelous.

One question: I'm not sure how much you know about Bristol City or how we play but would you see him going straight into our first team?

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2 hours ago, Keep the Faith said:

Sounds a bit like Cole Skuce but hopefully with a little more to his game. As a result i predict he will not be a fans favourite which is a shame if he can do the job we badly need someone to do.

An interesting comparison, although whereas the last letter is dropped when pronouncing Nagy's name (Nadj), it was actually emphasised when pronouncing Skuse (it's spelt with an S, by the way), so that it sounded more like Skusay. 

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2 hours ago, Hunsupport said:

Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose :) ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. :)

 

I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch.

 

When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed.

 

 

He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season.

 

“ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him.

 

Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it.

 

In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months...

 

So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. :) When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad.

 

Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end.

Great post and insight into Nagy and his attributes. Sounds like a great team player and exactly what has been missing in our team

Cant wait to see him play!

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1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

Top man @Hunsupport. So he's a proper magnificent Magyar and his name sounds like Natch. Bloody marvelous.

One question: I'm not sure how much you know about Bristol City or how we play but would you see him going straight into our first team?

I confess I have no idea (of the playing style) but will obv watch from now on. He started pre-season in mid July because of the extended break after the internationals so maybe he's a week behind from the rest of the team in terms of pre-season fitness. He played 3 friendlies since then, but I think next week he will play. No doubt he'll do everything in training to be a starter as soon as possible.

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32 minutes ago, Hunsupport said:

I confess I have no idea (of the playing style) but will obv watch from now on. He started pre-season in mid July because of the extended break after the internationals so maybe he's a week behind from the rest of the team in terms of pre-season fitness. He played 3 friendlies since then, but I think next week he will play. No doubt he'll do everything in training to be a starter as soon as possible.

Ok. I was thinking he is unlikely to play in Saturday. But on Tuesday we have a cup game against QPR. It's a competition that is often used to play younger players or players trying to find fitness. We may well see him play in that match.

Welcome and I hope you enjoy following Bristol City. Most of the time it's rubbish but every now and then it's absolutely incredible.

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4 hours ago, Hunsupport said:

 

So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. :) When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad.

 

3 languages fluently? - wouldn't Hungarian also be on the list!  Just wait to he learns propper Bristolian like, then he will have 5 languages to compete with Cisse

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