Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boston Red said: It's mentioned in the interview. I hope he does well for you. He can light up a football pitch. Dig around on Youtube for City 4 Derby 1 and he gets the third goal and a beautiful 50 yard assist for the fourth. Also there is a freakish banana shot in Sheff Utd 1 Bristol City 2 and another beautiful curler in City 2 Reading 0. We were told when he came he was brilliant on his day but inconsistent. From Aug - Dec 2017 he was brilliant for us, helping us to the League Cup semis and second in the league, but has done absolutely nothing since, despite playing every week and being give the luxurious free-roaming ten role. That's a bit revisionist, that last bit. Wasn't he shunted around somewhat between wide and '10'. His final 5-6 months of last season went pretty well, extrapolated at least IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyFan Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boston Red said: It's mentioned in the interview. I hope he does well for you. He can light up a football pitch. Dig around on Youtube for City 4 Derby 1 and he gets the third goal and a beautiful 50 yard assist for the fourth. Also there is a freakish banana shot in Sheff Utd 1 Bristol City 2 and another beautiful curler in City 2 Reading 0. We were told when he came he was brilliant on his day but inconsistent. From Aug - Dec 2017 he was brilliant for us, helping us to the League Cup semis and second in the league, but has done absolutely nothing since, despite playing every week and being give the luxurious free-roaming ten role. It makes you wonder why everyone waited until deadline day for it to go through if that's the case? Thanks, I'll check them out. From what I remember about him, he's always been a little annoyance when he's played against us, I've always assumed that was because he raised his game against us being ex Forest! Inconsistent certainly seems to be the go to word when describing most winger/no10 types, seems much rarer to get consistent ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, DerbyFan said: It makes you wonder why everyone waited until deadline day for it to go through if that's the case? Thanks, I'll check them out. From what I remember about him, he's always been a little annoyance when he's played against us, I've always assumed that was because he raised his game against us being ex Forest! Inconsistent certainly seems to be the go to word when describing most winger/no10 types, seems much rarer to get consistent ones. Pato is definitely not a winger mate and if that's what you are expecting, you will be disappointed . He is a left sided midfielder, with a modicum of skill when he is in the mood, but most games you will forget hes even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Really surprised Derby would want him if I’m honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 hours ago, petehinton said: Pack and Paterson gone. Walsh, Adelukan and Watkins still here. Great stuff all round League one and two window still open imagine at least two of those three will still leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Pato is definitely not a winger mate and if that's what you are expecting, you will be disappointed . He is a left sided midfielder, with a modicum of skill when he is in the mood, but most games you will forget hes even there. Think he's more of a 10 personally. Best in that position when in the right system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 To afford Afobe he had to get players off the wage bill It just so happens we had bids for pack and Patterson It also opens up a pathway into the team for our new/ young players if bids came in for Watkins O’Dowda and Walsh then pato and pack wouldn’t have gone anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Really weird to think that Pato's going to be creating chances for Rooney. Actually knowing Pato, he won't be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: To afford Afobe he had to get players off the wage bill It just so happens we had bids for pack and Patterson It also opens up a pathway into the team for our new/ young players if bids came in for Watkins O’Dowda and Walsh then pato and pack wouldn’t have gone anywhere Utter nonsense - we have no FFP issues because of the Webster sale. Our squad was too big , no other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Utter nonsense - we have no FFP issues because of the Webster sale. Our squad was too big , no other reason. Wages.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189thoughts Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 When we signed Paterson, Forest fans all said he started great for them but then fell off and became inconsistent. I think it's fair to say his time with us has been very similar. I expect him to do very well for Derby to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Loosey Boy said: Exactly my thoughts, based on the fact that Afobe deal nearly collapsed due to cost of the BA loan/personal terms - hence why I think that this deal and the one for Pack have happened right at the end Can you explain/expand on this? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Think he's more of a 10 personally. Best in that position when in the right system. The best football we’ve played in the last couple of seasons was when Diedhiou was injured & we played Paterson & Reid up front. Think he’s another player that fans will only realise how much he offered now that he’s gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 It’s nice to see that he obviously loved it here and as others have said it was a delight when both pato and bobby were up top together but, over the course of last season never once have I thought he could be our match winner. I Wish him well though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottishRed said: Utter nonsense - we have no FFP issues because of the Webster sale. Our squad was too big , no other reason. I don’t think so petal We still have a balance sheet to work too. Also with the 2 new midfielders we would have had something like 12 for centre /attacking/ wide midfield. Lj said he wanted 2 or 3 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dottie said: The best football we’ve played in the last couple of seasons was when Diedhiou was injured & we played Paterson & Reid up front. Think he’s another player that fans will only realise how much he offered now that he’s gone. It's only a loan though, so he will be back in 12 months having learned a bit and perhaps improved on his lack of physical strength. Strange that Derby wanted him though. I assume he can't play against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Can you explain/expand on this? Thanks. Mentions in article posted online (Stoke Sentinal newspaper) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: It's only a loan though, so he will be back in 12 months having learned a bit and perhaps improved on his lack of physical strength. Strange that Derby wanted him though. I assume he can't play against us. No, he can’t play against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Dottie said: The best football we’ve played in the last couple of seasons was when Diedhiou was injured & we played Paterson & Reid up front. Think he’s another player that fans will only realise how much he offered now that he’s gone. I mean it's possible we've upgraded that '10' but yeah, that was the best football at this level not just in a couple of seasons but over a consistent period at this level in years! Definitely doesn't deserve some of the flak he gets on here IMO and let's face it if Derby are keen he must have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 05/08/2019 at 19:38, mozo said: I don't know which 'rumour' is weakest, this one or the Brownhill one! It wasn't a rumour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Whites said: It wasn't a rumour Fair play Whites. Good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Don't know how I feel about this - and as someone who tore into Paterson massively in the first half of last season, not sure why that is, but I did feel he was maturing towards the end of last season, in part because he was having to rescue a starting 11 that was often utterly flat and exhausted before his introduction. For me he finished last season stronger (think Millwall away, where he put the team on his back and changed the game) and with a lot more composure and quality than Palmer (perhaps the competition served him well), and in our 0-5 and 1-3 the past two weeks, he's at least shown the same purpose off the bench. End product is sketchy at times, but not always - he has about the best scoring record of our midfield and wider players, and is one of the few players in the squad who can run with the ball convincingly to stretch play and give others time to get up the field. I'm not even sure Palmer can do that without a drag back or two. I suppose in the end analysis I trusted Paterson, limitations and all, more than I have ever trusted Palmer, so am now counting on Palmer to realise his potential otherwise as bit part at Pato could be, I think we'll miss his traditional cameo appearances to galvanise a Lee Johnson first 11 choice that is all too often flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Derby fans seemed reasonably happy with his debut, off the bench though it was. https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/33207-jamie-paterson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Have 32Red upped their shirt sponsorship deal to cover Pato's wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, downendcity said: Have 32Red upped their shirt sponsorship deal to cover Pato's wages? The Rooney 32Red deal was just a cover story I feel- for the cost and expense of their real superstar in waiting- their ex Forest City loanee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 18:57, MartockRed said: I’m a little worried. Not only does that remove a fair chunk of goals and assists from midfield, him going along with Marlon are two strong characters from the dressing room. Totally different dressing room now with all the new boys. I’m hoping for all our sakes they settle in quickly and hit the ground running. I think this might be part of the point. Sometimes a dressing room can become complacent and removing two senior players could be the grenade that awakes and refocuses the rest. He's a victim of the refresh, reboot, recharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, mozo said: I think this might be part of the point. Sometimes a dressing room can become complacent and removing two senior players could be the grenade that awakes and refocuses the rest. He's a victim of the refresh, reboot, recharge. and his inconsistent contributions to the team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: and his inconsistent contributions to the team He was consistently poor for quite some time. Just the odd flash here and there. But nowhere near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: and his inconsistent contributions to the team . I mean, there was that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, mozo said: I think this might be part of the point. Sometimes a dressing room can become complacent and removing two senior players could be the grenade that awakes and refocuses the rest. He's a victim of the refresh, reboot, recharge. I'm a suspicious person and I believe there is more to these leaving us, than we will ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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