Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, wood_red said: Most do, if not all. We stood at Birmingham on the weekend and I think everyone did (although I was right at one end so couldn't see everything). It will just be a load of stewards stood along the back of the Dolman against QPR on Saturday imo, unsure if they do that in the South Stand - but you can bet what you like that none will be in the away end asking anyone to sit down. I think in all honesty it's generally the case in away ends now that fans will stand and is accepted as such. Non st holders, lot of hassle- think rightly or wrongly it's the case and it seems fairly consistent across the country? Is factored in essentially. Of more interest maybe is the 2 home areas outside of the Singing Section. It's the top row or so- the areas still may need stewards up there but not for that reason! It's completely nuts. Oh yeah of more interest? Other grounds. Whenever I watch Highlights on Quest I watch most games. Looks can be deceiving but it certainly appears to me that they are plenty of Leeds fans at Elland Road stood and persistently! Now standing at football is positive, but good grief where is the consistency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, wood_red said: Most do, if not all. We stood at Birmingham on the weekend and I think everyone did (although I was right at one end so couldn't see everything). It will just be a load of stewards stood along the back of the Dolman against QPR on Saturday imo, unsure if they do that in the South Stand - but you can bet what you like that none will be in the away end asking anyone to sit down. They won`t be able to do that in the SS as the back row of seats are right against the back wall and if they stand in the gangways they`ll be blocking peoples` view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 You can still sit in the air. Great training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 09/08/2019 at 11:29, the red rules said: I had an Atyeo back seat for 15 years or so mostly I stood but sat down when every now and again the stewards came up and requested it. Got a back seat in SS for the same reason and stood, except at half time or when I'm really fed up and 3-0 down. So I'll be sensible and no doubt be like a Jack in the box up and down depending what happens on the pitch. As I intimated earlier I find it unfair they will not try and regulate the away fans but will us, despite not blocking others view + helping to lift the home crowd around us. To be fair I don't think I've been to any away ground recently that enforces sitting for away supporters (i think WBA about 10 years ago might be the last) so BCFC are doing the same as everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 It's funny how we can have 30,000 people stood and dancing in every seat, in pitch blackness during take that, muse and spice girls concerts, and yet standing on the back row during a bright Saturday afternoon is deemed unsafe (and that's with the fluorescent lights on as well) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, CHIPLEY RED said: To be fair I don't think I've been to any away ground recently that enforces sitting for away supporters (i think WBA about 10 years ago might be the last) so BCFC are doing the same as everyone else. It just seems to be accepted that away fans now stand or it's safest to allow it- probably best to accept it at this time? 4 minutes ago, beaverface said: It's funny how we can have 30,000 people stood and dancing in every seat, in pitch blackness during take that, muse and spice girls concerts, and yet standing on the back row during a bright Saturday afternoon is deemed unsafe (and that's with the fluorescent lights on as well) ! Agreed it's laughable! Not only that but that day and night from about 3ish was raining non stop- a serious risk of slippage there if persistent and wide standing yet attempting to make back tow at football sit?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Jesus christ reading all this is depressing. It's nothing new, but what a pathetic world we live in, where someone can't stand at the BACK of a stand. Fml. This along with VAR and all the other crap, seriously makes me hate modern day football. And yet I still bloody watch it. Argh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 There are a few possible scenarios at play here IMO. 1) The club have been informed, and actually are true believers- well I say the club I obviously mean the Head of Security and they (the aforementioned individual?) will look to enforce it fairly strongly! At least in terms of rolling requests. 2) The club are doing what they are told and may try to show willing, enforce it a little and for a bit. I read that at Sunderland there was a bit of wink wink, nudge nudge scenario, whereby stewards would arrive, ask people to sit. They would stick around for a while people would indeed sit. After a while, stewards would leave and people would resume standing- seems a fair and potentially sensible short-term trade off? 3) Nobody will be hassled- purely for the club to show willing and cover themselves. Boxticking! 4) See the first one! However not only regular discussions/requests, but people being ejected/dragged out. This I feel would not only cause needless bad feeling between fans, club and stewards but possibly even risk causing unrest/trouble in the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCyder Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: They won`t be able to do that in the SS as the back row of seats are right against the back wall and if they stand in the gangways they`ll be blocking peoples` view. Whilst technically being unreserved in S25, the season before last they removed the seat allocated on my Season Ticket (and the one next to it) in the top corner of the SS to make room for a steward to stand there. Thankfully, I doubt they'd do that across the rest of the SS given people hold Season Tickets in those seats. They had to phone me to allow me to book a ticket for the Man Utd cup game as I didn't technically have a seat to book it against any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 This is genuinely nothing new. Delve back into old threads on here and I'm sure there were requests to sit, persistent standing, announcements to this effect in Dolman G Block for example in the mid 2000s- don't know if the issue was just the back row back then or if G Block was where Subbers etc went when EastEnd wasn't so accessible to home fans? Where I think things differ- unless it's box ticking- is that they never specifically focused on back row before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just look at the year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 23:02, Harry said: Put in a GDPR complaint if you want, but if we get a fine of 2% of our turnover and the price of a pint is increased to £6 a pop, we’ll know who to blame. Itll be £6 before long anyway. And cuppa tea is already most expensive in country so we're used to silly prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Can’t see the complete email which was posted earlier in this thread, but it looks like it was going to read ‘a reduction in capacity ‘. This was threatened at Norwich last season because of persistent standing. I don’t know if it was carried out at Norwich but I believe that is why the singing section has a reduced capacity. The thing I can’t understand is if it is illegal to stand, how is it permitted in areas even with a reduced capacity? If people continue to stand then reduce the SS capacity to allow everyone to stand. There’s plenty of capacity elsewhere in the ground for sitting until rail seats can be installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Pieman said: Can’t see the complete email which was posted earlier in this thread, but it looks like it was going to read ‘a reduction in capacity ‘. This was threatened at Norwich last season because of persistent standing. I don’t know if it was carried out at Norwich but I believe that is why the singing section has a reduced capacity. The thing I can’t understand is if it is illegal to stand, how is it permitted in areas even with a reduced capacity? If people continue to stand then reduce the SS capacity to allow everyone to stand. There’s plenty of capacity elsewhere in the ground for sitting until rail seats can be installed. It isnt illegal to stand, there are no laws to do with standing. Clubs have to provide seats, how strict they are to enforce standing is down to local councils. Stewards will ask you to sit down, a policeman never would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, AshtonPark said: It isnt illegal to stand, there are no laws to do with standing. Clubs have to provide seats, how strict they are to enforce standing is down to local councils. Stewards will ask you to sit down, a policeman never would. Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbo Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Pieman said: Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected . Careful. You’ll be getting an email from the club about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 It took some finding but found it! Note the year...it's a losing battle surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Wonder if the club/SAG etc will actually try to enforce this tomorrow. Given us and Plymouth seem to be two clubs making a fuss about it, something in the water in this part of the world? With Safety bodies at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxHarry Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Whole of the South Stand should stand up, it’s shit we have one standing section. I’m on back row but will stand tomorrow, pathetic email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 I reckon they will try in the Dolman and have stewards at the back before kick off, unsure what they will do if people stand at the back of the SS if they cannot stand behind them. Just keep shouting I guess?? All seems pretty pointless with only a few people standing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCyder Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've swapped my seat and happen to be in the back row of the Dolman today. They've just got two stewards up here and a few signs staying 'this is an all seater stand. No standing is allowed. Persistent offenders may have their ticket/card revoked'. No sign of additional stewards in SS, not that there's anywhere for them to stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, InCyder said: I've swapped my seat and happen to be in the back row of the Dolman today. They've just got two stewards up here and a few signs staying 'this is an all seater stand. No standing is allowed. Persistent offenders may have their ticket/card revoked'. No sign of additional stewards in SS, not that there's anywhere for them to stand. I hope people stand, it’s pathetic. Even more I hope they are heavy handed and cause issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Tbf there were a few stood at the back in block 28 and the stewards were pretty relaxed about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Everyone at the back of the SS was stood up as usual and no problems with stewards at all. It`s just the club paying lip service to an issue some jobsworth has raised IMO. Mind you, with CCTV who knows what surprises the next week`s inboxes may hold...…………………... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Everyone at the back of the SS was stood up as usual and no problems with stewards at all. It`s just the club paying lip service to an issue some jobsworth has raised IMO. Mind you, with CCTV who knows what surprises the next week`s inboxes may hold...…………………... Hmmmm Initially I chuckled RRH......BUT.... That actuallywould be an easy (And Poor) way for the club to address it Contact those who own seats where standing takes place, issue a final warning and threaten to suspend / cancel ST........... Wouldn’t shock me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Reckon it's part of a wider (attempted?) clampdown of it. https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q="persistent standing"&src=typd Now obviously clubs have to be seen to be doing something but it'll be interesting to see how this develops as the season moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:49, AshtonPark said: I hope people stand, it’s pathetic. Even more I hope they are heavy handed and cause issues. Don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment but I can't see the club liking this post... Just because they don't necessarily (Julie H apart) engage on here these days, doesn't mean they don't read it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 18 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Hmmmm Initially I chuckled RRH......BUT.... That actuallywould be an easy (And Poor) way for the club to address it Contact those who own seats where standing takes place, issue a final warning and threaten to suspend / cancel ST........... Wouldn’t shock me I have a mate who got a little ( lot ) drunk at a home game last season, Villa on a Friday night I think , got a bit gobby with a steward and was ejected. Following home game pulled aside at half time and asked to sign a good behaviour bond, waving his right to appeal any future misdemeanors. All this done through CCTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: I have a mate who got a little ( lot ) drunk at a home game last season, Villa on a Friday night I think , got a bit gobby with a steward and was ejected. Following home game pulled aside at half time and asked to sign a good behaviour bond, waving his right to appeal any future misdemeanors. All this done through CCTV. One for FSA Faircop? That sounds a fairly "interesting" clause to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: One for FSA Faircop? That sounds a fairly "interesting" clause to me... Surprised me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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