Judda Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Only 1 centre back?!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Controversial I admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witney Red Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Personally I think we are set up really well for a 433 but also the flexability to switch it up as needed. ------------------------------------Bentley/Niki-------------------------------------- Pereira/Hunt---Kalas/Wright---Moore/Baker---Dasilva/Rowe -----------------------------------Nagy/Smith---------------------------------------- -------------Massengo/Bakinson------Brownhill/Walsh---------------- ----Weimann/O'Dowda-------------------------Palmer/Eliasson-------- --------------------------------Afobe/Diedhiou------------------------------------- The two in attack with Afobe/Diedhiou can then be changed depending how wide or narrow we want to play. Have to say I like the look of that and the ability to switch easily to a 4-2-3-1 if desired as well. Very happy with this window and look forward to seeing this squad develop. Think it will take a bit of time at the start to gel but when it does... I'm predicting us to be the Villa of this season. Strong 2nd half to go up in the play offs. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'm not sure we'll see revolution so much as evolution on Saturday. I think Nagy will come straight in with Pack having left and I would think Eliasson earned a start from his half hour last weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if the other additions since then are all the bench. Maybe Perriera will come straight in, but I doubt it. I think the longer-term plan is probably to go back to the 4-1-4-1, with Nagy, Brownhill and Palmer as the 3 central midfield players, Massengo rotating in. Afobe up to with wingers rotating in and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Judda said: Only 1 centre back?!!!? Yes but a very well protected one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Greedo said: needs 1 home grown player. We haven't got any left :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 10 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said: Think a few of them will have to learn on the job to be honest else why sell Pack and loan Pato? As a club are we in a position to spend £8m on a midfielder and not be playing him straight away? I know he is only 18 years old but if he isn't ready for us now the reality is we shouldn't have signed him, again if Pack was here then I would think he may start life on the bench but that safety net has been taken away unless Rowe is gonna start Surely you mean that he isn’t ready for Chelsea yet........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I don't see any of the new foreign players starting this weekend. They will need more time to settle and train with the rest of the squad first. Makes sense to try to get them up to speed for the cup game against QPR and take it from there I'd expect the team against Birmingham to be familiar, with Rowe taking Pack's place, and Szmodics or Palmer playing behind Afobe, although perhaps even Afobe will be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I don't see any of the new foreign players starting this weekend. They will need more time to settle and train with the rest of the squad first. Makes sense to try to get them up to speed for the cup game against QPR and take it from there I'd expect the team against Birmingham to be familiar, with Rowe taking Pack's place, and Szmodics or Palmer playing behind Afobe, although perhaps even Afobe will be on the bench. Why refer to them as our ‘foreign players’?This sounds so archaic and just puts some weird Brexit type separation between them and the other lads. Why not refer to them as Nagy, Massengo and Pereira, really isn’t that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Kingswoodactor said: Why refer to them as our ‘foreign players’?This sounds so archaic and just puts some weird Brexit type separation between them and the other lads. Why not refer to them as Nagy, Massengo and Pereira, really isn’t that difficult. Nothing wrong with the word foreign, stop being so weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: Why refer to them as our ‘foreign players’?This sounds so archaic and just puts some weird Brexit type separation between them and the other lads. Why not refer to them as Nagy, Massengo and Pereira, really isn’t that difficult. Probably just because it’s easier to write that instead of every name each time - no malice intended from RDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I don't see any of the new foreign players starting this weekend. They will need more time to settle and train with the rest of the squad first. Makes sense to try to get them up to speed for the cup game against QPR and take it from there I'd expect the team against Birmingham to be familiar, with Rowe taking Pack's place, and Szmodics or Palmer playing behind Afobe, although perhaps even Afobe will be on the bench. I think Nagy is the most likely starter of the 3. Depends how defensive we’re going - possibly Rowe for O’Dowda in that case. Can’t see it though - I think the lineup will be brave. I predict Eliasson will start in place of O’Dowda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: Why refer to them as our ‘foreign players’?This sounds so archaic and just puts some weird Brexit type separation between them and the other lads. Why not refer to them as Nagy, Massengo and Pereira, really isn’t that difficult. someones not had their Weetabix...…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shawn_x Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Elliason needs too start imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 90 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Am i missing something? Why are people still including O'Dowda in their team selections?? Not only does he not want to be here but he's terrible!! How anyone is putting him ahead of Eliasson is beyond me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednotblue Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 hours ago, spudski said: Going on Potential... ______________Bentley______________ Pereira____kalas_____Baker____Dasilva _______________Nagy_______________ Brownhill__________________Massengo ________Szmodics____Palmer_________ _______________Afobi________________ A lack of width with this as you asking the full backs to do a heck of a lot ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Not for Saturday but eventually I see this as our starting XI. Could argue Weimann for COD and then switch wings with Elliason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Red 90 said: Am i missing something? Why are people still including O'Dowda in their team selections?? Not only does he not want to be here but he's terrible!! How anyone is putting him ahead of Eliasson is beyond me.. Lee does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Judda said: Only 1 centre back?!!!? 4 hours ago, Judda said: Only 1 centre back?!!!? 352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, rednotblue said: A lack of width with this as you asking the full backs to do a heck of a lot ?? It's my own preference as I don't think we are at our best offensively when we play out and out wide players like Elliason. I think we are at our most effective when go coin a phrase from LJ we are busy bees in and around the box. Quick passing through the lines...pass move, at pace creating angles. I think it's brain dead to do that in our build up, only to eventually ping it out wide for Elliason, or whoever, to send a 50/50 ball into the box, where we have one man often defended by 3. By all means play wide players...but don't just ping crosses in hopefully. It just doesn't make sense to do that, when all the build up play is about movement, creating space, angles, possession, pressing, accurate fast passing of the ball...only to rely on a 50/50 hopeful ball into the box. As I said in another thread...you may as well play like Warnock if you are going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Kingswoodactor said: Why refer to them as our ‘foreign players’?This sounds so archaic and just puts some weird Brexit type separation between them and the other lads. Why not refer to them as Nagy, Massengo and Pereira, really isn’t that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Sturny said: Fellow Earthlings ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Fellow Earthlings ok? Did you just assume their planetary origin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sturny said: Did you just assume their planetary origin? Good point ... assume nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I consider Eliasson one of our most important players, and O'Dowda can be a key player too if his head is not turned, so I'd remain between 4-3-3 (with Eliasson/O'Dowda as third attacker) and 4-4-2, with a preference for the first one. My main doubt is about Palmer: where should we play him? I can't see him in midfield (too soft defensively) so Maybe he could play as Weimann's cover in the three upfront? Anyway...against Brums I'd choose this line-up: Bentley; Hunt,Moore,Kalas,Dasilva; Brownhill,Nagy,Szmodics/Rowe; Weimann, Afobe, Eliasson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Of course we could be bold/reckless and adopt a 3-1-3-1-2 system. It would mean playing narrow, adopting a high press and pinging the ball quickly in and around the box so would need players comfortable on the ball. Very risky but we might have the players for it. GK - Bentley RCB - Kalas MCB - Wright/Baker LCB - Moore DCM - Nagy RM - Brownhill CM - Massengo/Walsh LM - Dasilva/Rowe FM - Palmer ST - Afobe ST - Weimann Bench - Maenpaa/Gilmartin, Hunt, Wright/Baker, DaSilva/Rowe, Elliasson, Szmodics, Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: 352 352 normally has 3 centre backs and 2 wing backs... can't see J(D)S playing centre back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 15 hours ago, dave36 said: The next 4 or 5 games will define LJ, regularly made poor selections with players he knows well, so his ability is about to be tested. Presuming he gets most decisions right, the future looks good! COYR I don't think it will. Losing Webster, Pack, and with it looking like Diedhiou playing second fiddle to Afobe, we've just ripped the spine out of the team and we will need to change our whole pattern of play. It will take time to bed in the players and the system of playing. Feels like a season of transition to me. Ultimately, the changes (with the addition of a centre back at some stage) may take us forward, but we may need to take a step back first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Bullbag said: GK Bently RB Pereira CB Kalas CB Moore LB DaSilva CM Nagy CM Massengo LM Eliasson RM Brownhill AM Palmer FW Weimann (Supporting Diedhiou) FW Diedhiou Subs, Maaempa, Baker, Wright, Szmodics, Semenyo, Rowe, Taylor. I reckon we'd have a good change winning with 12 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, RedSkin said: I don't think it will. Losing Webster, Pack, and with it looking like Diedhiou playing second fiddle to Afobe, we've just ripped the spine out of the team and we will need to change our whole pattern of play. It will take time to bed in the players and the system of playing. Feels like a season of transition to me. Ultimately, the changes (with the addition of a centre back at some stage) may take us forward, but we may need to take a step back first. I'm glad we ripped the spine out of that team which was in a downward spiral and shipped 9 goals in 2 games. Wholesale changes was what we needed and wholesale changes is what we got....onwards and upwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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