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pl00peh91

Tammy Abraham starts for Chelsea against Man United

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1 minute ago, pl00peh91 said:

Fair play. Never thought I’d actually see it happen. Looking forward to seeing how he does.

Me too.  Swansea wasn’t ideal for him....always thought he’d be more effective with better players who’ll spot his runs, no disrespect to Swansea, but they weren’t fun to watch that season.

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8 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Wonder if he stays in if he has a nightmare and Chelsea lose. That will be even more brave from Frank

He's handed him the number 9 shirt for the season which is a real signal of his intent. I think they see him as the main man. 

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With the midfield of Pedro, Mount, Barkley, and Pulisic he'll get far more service than at Swansea. He's already hit the post and had two balls flash across in front of him 6 yards out. Everyone on here has seen first hand that if you get balls into the box when Tammy is there then his positioning and instincts will just get goals.

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Wish him the very very best of luck - deserves a chance 

Largely responsible for maintaining our Championship Status That season 

And for that and his fantastic attitude here,  at such a young age , will always respect him and be grateful

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Playing young players from their academy will buy Lampard time if it's not going well. Chelsea fans were furious with Sarri for refusing to play Hudson-Odoi last season. 

I think most Chelsea fans will accept a slightly lower league finish if it means several academy players are regularly playing.

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4 minutes ago, RedSkin said:

Hope I'm wrong but I don't think Tammy will make it at the top 

The goal is the same size no matter what league you play in. With the right service he could score in any league in any country.

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Chelsea all over them. Tammy done a few good things but generally been quiet apart from that shot. Barkley been very good. United's midfield is pretty rubbish and losing the midfield battle, but one stupid mistake by Zouma and no luck for Chelsea with their shooting, and somehow United leading. 

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2 minutes ago, RED4LIFE said:

The goal is the same size no matter what league you play in. With the right service he could score in any league in any country.

Umm yes, the goal is the same size, but the players trying to stop you getting the ball into it are better, the higher up the league you go..!

I liked Tammy, a lot, obviously - but I think he had too many limitations to his game to make it at the highest level. 

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5 minutes ago, RED4LIFE said:

The goal is the same size no matter what league you play in. With the right service he could score in any league in any country.

It's not about the size of the goal or the service.   I just don't think he's good enough to play for a top 6 team.

Just my opinion.

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United poor, Chelsea good in moments but generally poor. Think both teams will be battling for position with Wolves and Leicester outside the top 4. 

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2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Umm yes, the goal is the same size, but the players trying to stop you getting the ball into it are better, the higher up the league you go..!

I liked Tammy, a lot, obviously - but I think he had too many limitations to his game to make it at the highest level. 

I think he can make it but needs to up his work rate. He is just strolling round the pitch. Case in point, he does well to hold up the ball and lay it off near the half way line with Maguire all over him, but the Chelsea move breaks down when a sprinting Maguire gets back to the edge of the box to intercept and Tammy has barely moved 5 yards forward. 

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12 minutes ago, RED4LIFE said:

The goal is the same size no matter what league you play in. With the right service he could score in any league in any country.

Correct the goals dont change

What does change is how good the blokes defending the goals are

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3 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I think he can make it but needs to up his work rate. He is just strolling round the pitch. Case in point, he does well to hold up the ball and lay it off near the half way line with Maguire all over him, but the Chelsea move breaks down when a sprinting Maguire gets back to the edge of the box to intercept and Tammy has barely moved 5 yards forward. 

I think, overall, Bobby Reid was better (for us) than Tammy and he wasn’t able to make much impact in the Prem, admittedly, with lesser players around him to help. 

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Wasn't good enough then and isn't good enough now. Got slated for it when he was with us too. 

Love the guy, but he is a great championship striker, not a premier League one 

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Chelsea are going to struggle this season. Hazard a major loss and no real striker. Tammy will score but not the amount needed. May even miss out on top 6?

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23 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

Correct the goals dont change

What does change is how good the blokes defending the goals are

Very true.  If you look at goals vs xG, the higher you go up, the less goals, suggesting defences and keepers make a difference.

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11 minutes ago, Super said:

Goal down to tammy not holding the ball again.

Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! 

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7 minutes ago, Badger08 said:

Wasn't good enough then and isn't good enough now. Got slated for it when he was with us too. 

Love the guy, but he is a great championship striker, not a premier League one 

Still only 21.  Will no doubt be a Premier league quality player soon

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1 minute ago, RedDave said:

Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! 

If he held the ball up and Chelsea kept the ball

Man Utd would not have scored that goal

Harsh NO didnt do his job

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5 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

If he held the ball up and Chelsea kept the ball

Man Utd would not have scored that goal

Harsh NO didnt do his job

Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. 

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6 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. 

Didnt say the goal was his fault!!

Said they wouldnt have scored it if he had kept the ball

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1 minute ago, Maltshoveller said:

Didnt say the goal was his fault!!

Said they wouldnt have scored it if he had kept the ball

I said it was harsh to blame him and you said it wasn’t!

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You can see why United spent big on Maguire. 

Can’t believe how naive Chelsea were. Novice manager or not, had Lampard down to be smarter than that

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36 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. 

Not 120 yards from goal, no. You'd be starting in the stand. Very few pitches are more than 115 yards long. 

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6 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Not 120 yards from goal, no. You'd be starting in the stand. Very few pitches are more than 115 yards long. 

100 yards from goal then! 

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2 hours ago, Maltshoveller said:

Correct the goals dont change

What does change is how good the blokes defending the goals are

Yep, agree with that but you've conveniently ignored the point I made about getting the right service.

Better defenders at that level yes, but he's also playing with better players who should be able to provide better service ipso facto etc etc.....

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1 hour ago, Badger08 said:

Wasn't good enough then and isn't good enough now. Got slated for it when he was with us too. 

Love the guy, but he is a great championship striker, not a premier League one 

Very early to say that. Let's see how he gets on with a run of games.

He needs to fill out a bit too I think. His build reminds me of Kanu, very ectomorphic. In the modern game, I don't think that's ideal. 

He's an instinctive goalscorer and given a run of games I'm sure he will come good. 

Harry Kane didn't look fantastic at first remember.

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Not related to Tammy but whose pass was better? Palmer for Rowe or Pogba for Rashford.

My head says Pogba as it was outside of the foot and curled rather than inside and curled.

Both top class and not many players capable.

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4 hours ago, RedDave said:

Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! 

I thought it would be harsh to blame him, Maguire was allowed to have his hands all over him stopping him from going anywhere. Similar to Taylor Moore last weekend, ball may have been given away higher up the pitch but there should have been enough players behind him to prevent what happened. Azpelecueta let off for allowing Martial to be goal side? Would say he gets more of the blame.

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5 hours ago, RedSkin said:

Hope I'm wrong but I don't think Tammy will make it at the top level

Totally agree, decent Championship striker, not good enough in the league above imo. 

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7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Playing young players from their academy will buy Lampard time if it's not going well. Chelsea fans were furious with Sarri for refusing to play Hudson-Odoi last season. 

I think most Chelsea fans will accept a slightly lower league finish if it means several academy players are regularly playing.

Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi by the end were playing a reasonable amount. Reckon Lampard's player hero status will be just as important in buying him time, though Lampard will field more- not just time with the fans but Abramovich too- no other manager would get it IMO.

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6 hours ago, Super said:

Needs to improve his hold up play. Not great.

Still early in his career but never thought he had a top level all round game. Could yet come...

Was our saviour and for that will always be grateful- I wish him the best in his career and will be interesting to see how he fares over the coming months and years.

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