Davefevs Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Correct the goals dont change What does change is how good the blokes defending the goals are Very true. If you look at goals vs xG, the higher you go up, the less goals, suggesting defences and keepers make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Super said: Goal down to tammy not holding the ball again. Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Badger08 said: Wasn't good enough then and isn't good enough now. Got slated for it when he was with us too. Love the guy, but he is a great championship striker, not a premier League one Still only 21. Will no doubt be a Premier league quality player soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! If he held the ball up and Chelsea kept the ball Man Utd would not have scored that goal Harsh NO didnt do his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: If he held the ball up and Chelsea kept the ball Man Utd would not have scored that goal Harsh NO didnt do his job Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Shouldn't have sold Kalas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, RedDave said: Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. Didnt say the goal was his fault!! Said they wouldnt have scored it if he had kept the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Maltshoveller said: Didnt say the goal was his fault!! Said they wouldnt have scored it if he had kept the ball I said it was harsh to blame him and you said it wasn’t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Chelsea were all over them for first 60 mins. United defended well, Zouma didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 You can see why United spent big on Maguire. Can’t believe how naive Chelsea were. Novice manager or not, had Lampard down to be smarter than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, RedDave said: Haha brilliant. So if any player loses the ball anywhere on the pitch, even 120 yards from goal, it is their fault if a goal is then conceded. Not 120 yards from goal, no. You'd be starting in the stand. Very few pitches are more than 115 yards long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Not 120 yards from goal, no. You'd be starting in the stand. Very few pitches are more than 115 yards long. 100 yards from goal then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: Correct the goals dont change What does change is how good the blokes defending the goals are Yep, agree with that but you've conveniently ignored the point I made about getting the right service. Better defenders at that level yes, but he's also playing with better players who should be able to provide better service ipso facto etc etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Badger08 said: Wasn't good enough then and isn't good enough now. Got slated for it when he was with us too. Love the guy, but he is a great championship striker, not a premier League one Very early to say that. Let's see how he gets on with a run of games. He needs to fill out a bit too I think. His build reminds me of Kanu, very ectomorphic. In the modern game, I don't think that's ideal. He's an instinctive goalscorer and given a run of games I'm sure he will come good. Harry Kane didn't look fantastic at first remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Not related to Tammy but whose pass was better? Palmer for Rowe or Pogba for Rashford. My head says Pogba as it was outside of the foot and curled rather than inside and curled. Both top class and not many players capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 hours ago, RedDave said: Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! I thought it would be harsh to blame him, Maguire was allowed to have his hands all over him stopping him from going anywhere. Similar to Taylor Moore last weekend, ball may have been given away higher up the pitch but there should have been enough players behind him to prevent what happened. Azpelecueta let off for allowing Martial to be goal side? Would say he gets more of the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 hours ago, RedSkin said: Hope I'm wrong but I don't think Tammy will make it at the top level Totally agree, decent Championship striker, not good enough in the league above imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Playing young players from their academy will buy Lampard time if it's not going well. Chelsea fans were furious with Sarri for refusing to play Hudson-Odoi last season. I think most Chelsea fans will accept a slightly lower league finish if it means several academy players are regularly playing. Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi by the end were playing a reasonable amount. Reckon Lampard's player hero status will be just as important in buying him time, though Lampard will field more- not just time with the fans but Abramovich too- no other manager would get it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Super said: Needs to improve his hold up play. Not great. Still early in his career but never thought he had a top level all round game. Could yet come... Was our saviour and for that will always be grateful- I wish him the best in his career and will be interesting to see how he fares over the coming months and years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Portland Bill said: Totally agree, decent Championship striker, not good enough in the league above imo. Not being nasty at all to TA, but he has TWO England caps............just shows how the cap is devalued over the years. If your English and you play in the Prem (a rarity) ipso facto, you get capped ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Northern Red said: You can see why United spent big on Maguire. Can’t believe how naive Chelsea were. Novice manager or not, had Lampard down to be smarter than that Surprised Maguire didn't hang on for a move to a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Only half watched the game as chatting with friends in a bar but thought he had very little service apart from that early chance... Bit early to write off a young striker isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lucan said: I’ve seen more movement from Ayers Rock Do you like anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Not being nasty at all to TA, but he has TWO England caps............just shows how the cap is devalued over the years. If your English and you play in the Prem (a rarity) ipso facto, you get capped ! I think its more with a lot of players now, who have multiple national teams they can play for you need to get them played earlier before another country takes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 I was gutted for him. I had €10 on him to score the first goal at 7/1, double the odds if the goal came in the first 20 minutes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Galway Red said: I was gutted for him. I had €10 on him to score the first goal at 7/1, double the odds if the goal came in the first 20 minutes!!!! Gutted for him or you?!?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Really think if he has a few more showings like that we could be in with a chance of getting him back next summer as surly Chelsea will look to off load, he's quality in the championship, prem Looking a bit above him, shame really as he's a good guy who I hoped would do well at that level, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Judda said: Gutted for him or you?!?!! No, I didn't mind in the slightest that the bloke cost me €150!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 11/08/2019 at 19:03, RedDave said: Blaming a striker for a goal when all he does is lose a ball on the edge of the opponents box is a bit harsh! This is OTIB . We’s badass . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, Lucan said: You cost yourself that by making a silly bet Thanks for the words of wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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