054123 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Westcountry Robins said: Did they know the disabled section was in front of them? Did they have control of their limb to throw the missile? If the answer to these questions is yes, which it surely must be then they consciously chose to endanger the disabled section. Never mind ‘snowflakes’ and health and safety how about being accountable for your actions and their consequences? I still don’t believe you’re 100% sure that the individuals intent was to throw missiles at disabled people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmpowell Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, TRL said: Anyhow I cannot understand how anyone can be so braindead as to light a flare let alone chuck in and expect to get away with it in today's CCTV world we live in. For that very fact life bans should be handed out as clearly the perpetrators don't give a flying ****. Thats the difference between you as reasonable & decent person, and the pig ignorant dumb ***** who continually take flares into football grounds and/or condone it. As some of the cretinous replies on this thread show, you can’t educate pork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Did I read this right, three year ban and arrested .... I love marine flares and smoke bombs. Hundreds going off at Glastonbury, no fuss. Why is the law different for football fans? Hardly a first. The number of City fans arrested and banned for this offence in the last few years has been well publicised and is well into double figures. Iirc. not long ago City had the most bans imposed for flares/smoke bombs of any club in all 4 divisions. With CCTV the chances of not being caught are next to nil and on conviction (just about guaranteed with CCTV) a criminal record and a 3 year ban is automatic. You'd think the word might have got round that messing around with flares/smoke bombs at a City match is a mugs game. It's like waving your arms in the air and shouting, 'Here I am! Arrest me! Ban me!' Absolutely crazy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, Coombsy said: It bad what he has done what make it worse is the fact he paid for it and choose to take it into Ashton gate knowing it’s not aloud in side football grounds Agree with this I've always sympathised with fans who have picked up bans when they have ran on the pitch to celebrate a goal . In the heat of the moment, when adrenaline is pumping ....it can be easy to lose control . Not that it's acceptable but it is unplanned This guy bought this. Planned to bring it to the ground and actually bought it into the stadium for this purpose Hard to have any sympathy for the div Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Like em or loathe em they aren't supposed to be in an English football stadium. The club could get in trouble so the people who insist on using them are ******* idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking Was at Lech Poznan last weekend for this, and guess what, no-one died. Not surprised the atmosphere inside English grounds has died on its arse tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, poland_exile said: i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking Was at Lech Poznan last weekend for this, and guess what, no-one died. Not surprised the atmosphere inside English grounds has died on its arse tbh. So the flares you enjoyed in Poland were the identical to the smoke bomb thrown yesterday............ ahhhhhhhhhh I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, poland_exile said: i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking Was at Lech Poznan last weekend for this, and guess what, no-one died. Not surprised the atmosphere inside English grounds has died on its arse tbh. Let's face it...Poland is like we were in the 80s. Pretty much anything goes. Very little health and safety... Football over there still has that mentality...and it's often reflected in daily life. Same can be said of other Countries... In Italy only a few weeks back, the head of the Lazio Ultras was shot dead. If grown men want to go into that environment fine...they know any consequences. However...it's not just grown men in our stand. Women, kids, elderly...and a disabled section. At Lazio...the Ultras have banned women and children in their section. Because they know what can happen. Different Cultures. It's almost like Darwin's theory...if the idiots want to kill themselves...let them. Natural selection happening at a ground near you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, poland_exile said: i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking Was at Lech Poznan last weekend for this, and guess what, no-one died. Not surprised the atmosphere inside English grounds has died on its arse tbh. Might come as a surprise to you mate, here in England we bend over backwards to accommodate traditions and values of other cultures, even when they are alien to our own way of life... There are a few things we like to hang onto of our own though too, if that's not too much to ask. Dunno what others around the World do but over here ….. We no longer drink and drive … we rarely smoke in public places anymore.. we wear seatbelts when driving... We even drive on the left side of the road ffs! … We (most of us) dont chat on our mobiles while pissing along the M4 etc... Ride a motorbike? -nowadays we wear helmets etc etc etc, ie these things are all subject to the law of the land (dont like it? .. lump it!) Likewise in Our Football Stadiums (and various other public venues) We Dont Throw/Hold Flares/Smoke Bombs...to do so is against our UK law.. Like It Or Lump It, its as simple as that.... Whats not to understand??? Check this out (Club Statement from fully 2years ago - how long does it take to sink in ffs? ) https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-on-flaressmoke-bombs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, poland_exile said: i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking For what it's worth I like the look of flares and I think it can add to the atmosphere but ...... It is illegal to let them off in grounds, we (City) have been fined on a couple of occasions, plus warned about future infringements . People would be unhappy if they put more restrictions on the S82 area , it's been said before they turn a blind eye to standing but that could be clamped down on is it worth it? That's before you even think of the smoke affect on some people. Why risk sanctions on the club ? They would have had plenty of opportunity to use them up at the Flag day, seems a bit selfish to sneak them into the ground IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCadam Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 They're class, smell is brilliant and adds to the atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 There's little point in explaining the dangers to the f'wits who take or promote use of such devices in stadiums, they haven't the capacity to understand. They're also not studied enough to know that 'atmosphere', when it truly was something to behold in stadiums, had not a small single smoke bomb, flare or firecracker in sight. Atmosphere was human generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Interesting that this was the view of the area around the ground before kick off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, BCFCadam said: They're class, smell is brilliant and adds to the atmosphere So have you taken one to AG and set it off, you seem to like them? If not, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Rules are rules, Bristol City will no doubt get into deeper trouble with the authorities, all because of one thoughtless individual. Criminal record and life ban will stop this...........maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, RumRed said: So have you taken one to AG and set it off, you seem to like them? If not, why not? You realise how many weeks pocket money that is do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, poland_exile said: i haven't seen footage of yesterday's incident, but i can't help but feel a mountain is being made out of a molehill by delicate snowflakes. Ffs, people are talking about others choking Was at Lech Poznan last weekend for this, and guess what, no-one died. Not surprised the atmosphere inside English grounds has died on its arse tbh. Yes I am talking about people choking! Disabled people! In a wheelchair! Already having to use oxygen to get through the day ! Having to leave the stand and miss 10 minutes of a game because of how difficult they found it to breathe . They are not delicate snowflakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, JulieH said: Yes I am talking about people choking! Disabled people! In a wheelchair! Already having to use oxygen to get through the day ! Having to leave the stand and miss 10 minutes of a game because of how difficult they found it to breathe . They are not delicate snowflakes But ..... but....... .........in Poland........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: But ..... but....... .........in Poland........ I worked the England v Poland u21 match where we arrested a polish Male for smoke grenades, and interestingly enough also gave first aid with club staff to several polish fans suffering through smoke and burns. Some with young kids even asked to be moved out of the middle of the crowd. Not all polish fans it seems enjoy the smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Any updates on the arrest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, BTRFTG said: There's little point in explaining the dangers to the f'wits who take or promote use of such devices in stadiums, they haven't the capacity to understand. They're also not studied enough to know that 'atmosphere', when it truly was something to behold in stadiums, had not a small single smoke bomb, flare or firecracker in sight. Atmosphere was human generated. Spot on. I’ve watched football at home and abroad for 50 years and been in many European stadiums with flares etc, and the atmospheres been poor to non existent. Partly, I suspect, because most of the ‘ultras’ actually have little or no interest in the actual football. Standing topless with your back to the pitch while purporting to conduct a sort of paramilitary chanting is not being a footy fan. Just one of the lessons that yesterday’s muppet has to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, 42nite said: Any updates on the arrest? Released last night at 2200 for further enquiries to be made this week and as he is 16 for a youth panel meeting . Will continue to update you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, JulieH said: Released last night at 2200 for further enquiries to be made this week and as he is 16 for a youth panel meeting . Will continue to update you all So he can't blame booze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, JulieH said: Released last night at 2200 for further enquiries to be made this week and as he is 16 for a youth panel meeting . Will continue to update you all As others have posted, a custodial punishment is the only answer to this heinous crime. I’ll sleep safer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Redpool said: Only “Flair” that should be seen at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Wooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 19 hours ago, bcfc01 said: Hopefully. So they should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbo Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: So he can't blame booze. Blame the coke instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, JulieH said: Released last night at 2200 for further enquiries to be made this week and as he is 16 for a youth panel meeting . Will continue to update you all Seems a few prefer the ' Good Ol' days'...perhaps you should stick him in a cell and throw a flare in. Just to give him some insight to how it would be for a disabled person who can't move on their own. Harsh? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 19 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Seems the obvious place to post this This below is another example of why the vast majority in the Standing / Singing Section are a big positive for the Club Why one plank thinks it’s ok to endanger the existence of this section )let alone the effect it had on some in the disabled area and all the other reasons highlighted on this thread) is beyond me Exactly the point I was making yesterday, still can't understand why the OP started the thread the way he did and why a few others felt the need to jump on the band wagon, I have been in section 82 since it started and can't think anyone around me would think they should do that, It really gets to me that it seams some just jump all over section 82 when ever they can, that fool with the pyro could have been in any other part of the ground and there would not have been such things posted on here, please don't get me wrong it should not have happened and am so glad the police got him, but some in this thread are using it as a stick to beat many people who would never do a thing like this just because they are in one part of the ground, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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