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38 minutes ago, Red DNA said:

Maybe you could let a few off in your bedroom to fulfil your ambition to induce breathlessness and choking?

 

Might set fire to his homework though

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1 hour ago, Red DNA said:

 Maybe you could let a few off in your bedroom to fulfil your ambition to induce breathlessness and choking?

 

….think most of us have done this on more than one occasion to be honest.

Its juvenile but great fun to let one off and shove your partners head under the covers....  ;)  

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7 hours ago, JulieH said:

Released last night at 2200 for further enquiries to be made this week and as he is 16 for a youth panel meeting . 

Will continue to update you all 

On the subject of updates where are you in the persuit of the violent rugby fans?

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7 hours ago, JulieH said:

I worked the England v Poland u21  match  where we arrested a  polish Male  for smoke grenades, and interestingly enough also gave first aid with club staff  to several polish fans suffering through smoke and burns. 

Some with young kids even asked to be moved out of the middle of the crowd. 

Not all polish fans it seems enjoy the smoke 🤔

 

3 hours ago, TuxHarry said:

Julie, we get flares in the away end often at Ashton Gate. May I ask, do you take similarly swift action?

If you had read the thread you’d see your question had already been answered! 🤦‍♂️

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2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said:

If we all did it would recreate the atmosphere from the 70s instantly!

Ahh.. a late 80s Eastend...

The smell of piss from the open air toilet, a match lit panatella and an unwashed sheepskin coat....

Like leaded fuel, we won't see those days again.

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2 hours ago, Red Exile said:

The flares they use at matches when the teams run out generate a great deal of flame but relatively little heat, and no smoke in my experience. At events I've worked at the flares are carefully placed and if there is a player run out or something similar there has been some sort of rehearsal to ensure that no one is likely to be near enough to be adversely affected by the heat or light. The folk who plan and supervise these things are professionals...this is what they do day in and day out, like the people who design and run professional fireworks displays. There's really no comparison to you or me having a go.

 

I suspect those trying to compare probably realise this and are just being deliberately obtuse.

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3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Ahh.. a late 80s Eastend...

The smell of piss from the open air toilet, a match lit panatella and an unwashed sheepskin coat....

Like leaded fuel, we won't see those days again.

Loved the mid 60's / 70's  Great atmosphere, no flares or crap like that required, East End bog roll streamers aplenty.

Gibbo must have seen 'em as tax free bonus's - bet he didn't need to buy Andrex for a decade or two after his legendary stint in goal with us down The Gate.  

G i b b o !  … G i b b o ! !    :) 

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1 hour ago, WhistleHappy said:

Loved the mid 60's / 70's  Great atmosphere, no flares or crap like that required, East End bog roll streamers aplenty.

Gibbo must have seen 'em as tax free bonus's - bet he didn't need to buy Andrex for a decade or two after his legendary stint in goal with us down The Gate.  

G i b b o !  … G i b b o ! !    :) 

Remember the slightly chunky, overweight ball boy who would delight in giving his stomach a tap when asked, and his thinner mate who would respond in kind to 'skinny get 'yer ribs out'.

They must be 40+ now.

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10 hours ago, East End Old Boy said:

 

 

If you had read the thread you’d see your question had already been answered! 🤦‍♂️

If you could point out where Julie gave a time frame on the arrest of the Polish fan which would answer my question “East End Old Boy” then please do so, you’re obviously seeing something that I cannot. 

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On 17/08/2019 at 22:18, PolskRed said:

I fully understand the for and against arguments about pyro but I am amazed any matches ever get completed in Europe!! Pryor all over Europe week in week out, are they tougher than us or are we making a fuss about nothing? I have been to match’s all over Europe and people just don’t care, why do we? I follow football over Europe and don’t remember any health issues with pyro. I am sure you will prove me wrong!!

They don’t approve of flares in France either.

I don’t know what they do to prevent them.

 I do now .

The use of flares is against the law and punishable with a fine and 3 years in prison.

In addition the French football authorities can fine , close down stands or grounds .

However , this control is ineffective because of heavy handed policing creating conflict and panic in the stadium and when they knock on offender’s doors some time after the match and whisk the offenders away ( for a good kicking ) to be charged this engenders a lot more trouble with a ‘ them and us ‘ divide .

 The overriding sense is that the use of these flares is less dangerous than the problems that are magnified by the policing of them so that is why they appear more frequently in France.

 

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17 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

They don’t approve of flares in France either.

I don’t know what they do to prevent them.

Only talking of the UK.

From what I've read, they're very hard to stop getting in when searching at turnstiles etc.

They're so small some of these pyro that if you want to get them in you've a very good chance. So I have read anyway- dunno how except for harsh deterrents you stop it as some are really quite small.

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28 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Only talking of the UK.

From what I've read, they're very hard to stop getting in when searching at turnstiles etc.

They're so small some of these pyro that if you want to get them in you've a very good chance. So I have read anyway- dunno how except for harsh deterrents you stop it as some are really quite small.

Sniffer dogs perhaps ? 

( with permission to bite if they find one .) 

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8 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Sniffer dogs perhaps ? 

( with permission to bite if they find one .) 

:devil:

Ha yes- would give would be pyro bringers pause (or is that paws) for thought there!

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On 17/08/2019 at 19:01, Davefevs said:

Heard the person was arrested....and that it’s a 3 year ban???

Good. Absolutely moronic behaviour. 

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I’m a fully an advocate of flares, however Saturdays incident was unfortunate, but it highlights the clubs’ lack of foresight/ understanding of fans/ willingness to accommodate all fans to have a disabled section directly in front of the designated area for - what the club see as - the most ‘high risk’ fans. This was once again evident at the Man Utd. match. Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted, but I doubt it with landsdowns desire of being prawn sandwich robins fc

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1 hour ago, STeveOELlis said:

I’m a fully an advocate of flares, however Saturdays incident was unfortunate, but it highlights the clubs’ lack of foresight/ understanding of fans/ willingness to accommodate all fans to have a disabled section directly in front of the designated area for - what the club see as - the most ‘high risk’ fans. This was once again evident at the Man Utd. match. Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted, but I doubt it with landsdowns desire of being prawn sandwich robins fc

By 'sorted' I assume you mean we weed out the fans who are too stupid to behave themselves and ban them, so that supporters with mobility issue can enjoy the game without worrying that someone might throw a flare at them, or, God forbid, we beat a team from a different division, they feel the need to run on the pitch because celebrating in the stand is beyond them.

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1 hour ago, STeveOELlis said:

I’m a fully an advocate of flares, however Saturdays incident was unfortunate, but it highlights the clubs’ lack of foresight/ understanding of fans/ willingness to accommodate all fans to have a disabled section directly in front of the designated area for - what the club see as - the most ‘high risk’ fans. This was once again evident at the Man Utd. match. Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted, but I doubt it with landsdowns desire of being prawn sandwich robins fc

"Unfortunate" suggests there was no premeditation by the thrower. Which seems disingenuous at best.

I really don't care either way about flares, pyro, smoke, whatever, but the laws and regulations are clear, and I presume the person involved will have the duration of a stadium ban to ponder their behaviour next time.

And the argument the club are somehow at fault for putting a disabled fans' section in that corner doesn't hold water. The person shouldn't be bringing in the item, setting it off, and chucking it towards the pitch regardless of who is sat down the front of that area.

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3 hours ago, STeveOELlis said:

I’m a fully an advocate of flares, however Saturdays incident was unfortunate, but it highlights the clubs’ lack of foresight/ understanding of fans/ willingness to accommodate all fans to have a disabled section directly in front of the designated area for - what the club see as - the most ‘high risk’ fans. This was once again evident at the Man Utd. match. Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted, but I doubt it with landsdowns desire of being prawn sandwich robins fc

Another one suggesting that disabled supporters shouldn't be allowed near the singing section, why exactly? You do realise that having a lack of mobility or other need doesn't stop people wanting to be as close as possible to the best atmosphere in the ground - and why should it?

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3 hours ago, STeveOELlis said:

Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted

What stadium upgrades?

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On 18/08/2019 at 13:33, RumRed said:

So have you taken one to AG and set it off, you seem to like them?  If not, why not?

don't fancy getting arrested

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49 minutes ago, STeveOELlis said:

Safe standing and potential Atyeo development, in the distant future 

So disabled fans don’t have the right to sit where they want, is that what you’re telling us?

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4 hours ago, STeveOELlis said:

I’m a fully an advocate of flares, however Saturdays incident was unfortunate, but it highlights the clubs’ lack of foresight/ understanding of fans/ willingness to accommodate all fans to have a disabled section directly in front of the designated area for - what the club see as - the most ‘high risk’ fans. This was once again evident at the Man Utd. match. Hopefully in the next few years with various stadium upgrades this issue could be sorted, but I doubt it with landsdowns desire of being prawn sandwich robins fc

What a belter of a post

 

It wasn’t unfortunate 

it was moronic 

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On 17/08/2019 at 21:37, AppyDAZE said:


Promotion, surviving in the Prem, establishing status, kicking on, Europe...

and all cos you chucked on a pathetic little smoke bomb

uh, no thanks

 

edit: Yeah, I know that didn't make much sense. Drink was taken but I know what I meant :laugh:

. I meant this bloke getting a 3 or 4 year ban for the smoke bomb was going to miss out on all this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My view is very poor planning by security and police. Knowing that the 3 lions were having their flag day and loads of smoke bombs would be let off they should have known someone would try bring one to the ground as it has happened before. So I was very surprised when I walked into the south east end corner there was no extra stewards to search anyone coming in that area.

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2 hours ago, Monkeh said:

So disabled fans don’t have the right to sit where they want, is that what you’re telling us?

No, I’m saying positioning a disabled section directly in front of the highest risk area - in the club’s eyes - was poor forward planning.

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1 hour ago, Threshing Red said:

My view is very poor planning by security and police. Knowing that the 3 lions were having their flag day and loads of smoke bombs would be let off they should have known someone would try bring one to the ground as it has happened before. So I was very surprised when I walked into the south east end corner there was no extra stewards to search anyone coming in that area.

Wrong it’s completely down to the individual bringing it in and letting it off,

********* like that person  is the reason football is overpoliced and fans are treated the way they are

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1 minute ago, STeveOELlis said:

No, I’m saying positioning a disabled section directly in front of the highest risk area - in the club’s eyes - was poor forward planning.

When the stand was built section 82 weren’t in that section they were in the atyeo, it’s not poor planning it’s asshole fans ruining it

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8 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Wrong it’s completely down to the individual bringing it in and letting it off,

********* like that person  is the reason football is overpoliced and fans are treated the way they are

Yes mate you're right. But he could have been stopped at the first hurdle. Unfortunately these people exist in life

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2 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

The best bit about it was the old boy with the oversized oven glove and tiny bucket tasked with dealing with it almost in slow motion. Had a sort of Benny Hill quality. 

How dare you find any of this funny at all, people could of been seriously injured.

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2 minutes ago, Posset red said:

How dare you find any of this funny at all, people could of been seriously injured.

The fact you fail to realise he danger flares can have is incredibly naïve, bordering on blinkered

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18 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

When the stand was built section 82 weren’t in that section they were in the atyeo, it’s not poor planning it’s asshole fans ruining it

The club had no intention of accommodating an unreserved/ singing section. They realised there was a need for one so housed it in the ‘eastend’ or rather the south east end. This happened to be directly behind a disabled section and, given the apparent issues the club had with us in the last season of the Atyeo, this was extremely poor forward planning from the club. However, all of these incidents add up for BS to eventually say no ‘singing section’

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15 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

The fact you fail to realise he danger flares can have is incredibly naïve, bordering on blinkered

I think it’s outrageous i personally feel they should bring back the death penalty for such an offence 

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19 minutes ago, Threshing Red said:

Yes mate you're right. But he could have been stopped at the first hurdle. Unfortunately these people exist in life

From what I've read flares can be very easy to smuggle in. The size of some of the devices...in your shoe, in your underpants. To name 2.

To blame security is a bit dubious IMO.

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6 minutes ago, STeveOELlis said:

The club had no intention of accommodating an unreserved/ singing section. They realised there was a need for one so housed it in the ‘eastend’ or rather the south east end. This happened to be directly behind a disabled section and, given the apparent issues the club had with us in the last season of the Atyeo, this was extremely poor forward planning from the club. However, all of these incidents add up for BS to eventually say no ‘singing section’

Maybe people could just not chuck flares, and the singing/standing section could sing and stand to their heart's content, whilst those in the disabled section could sit and enjoy the game.

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1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

From what I've read flares can be very easy to smuggle in. The size of some of the devices...in your shoe, in your underpants. To name 2.

To blame security is a bit dubious IMO.

The obvious answer to this from now on is strip searching 

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1 minute ago, Posset red said:

I think it’s outrageous i personally feel they should bring back the death penalty for such an offence 

I’m sure you wouldn’t be so flippant  if your son/brother had been killed by one like the 14 year old boy in Brazil a few years back. 

The fact is, they are a health risk. Not one to be ignored, and especially for fans who may be affected one that can cause harm

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1 minute ago, Posset red said:

The obvious answer to this from now on is strip searching 

Well if the club can identify those who appear in support of this moron by their IP addresses I’d welcome it.  As long as the rest of us can point and laugh.

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1 minute ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Will we have a main stage, with a pole, outside in the fan village?

Yes main stage sounds good tell them to walk through the curtains to be laughed at by the crowds 

 

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13 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

I’m sure you wouldn’t be so flippant  if your son/brother had been killed by one like the 14 year old boy in Brazil a few years back. 

The fact is, they are a health risk. Not one to be ignored, and especially for fans who may be affected one that can cause harm

Someone also died going for a swim whilst it was hot. Shit happens in life, if you live it avoiding anything that may harm you, you probably won’t enjoy it.

 

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59 minutes ago, Posset red said:

Interesting 

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I think I am the least of the csf worries. 

Not sure the swear words in this should be shown on the forum, offence could be caused and criminal offence of a public order offence under Sec 5 could be committed . The flag has already been banned from Ashton gate for that reason 

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