Robin101 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Nightmare. Could have been worse though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackofromSanJavier Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Someone on ‘Bristol City Till I Die’ just said they seen Nagy down Cabot on crutches. However, id take anyone’s post from that group with a pinch of salt. Mate at the Avon Gorge Hotel saw Nadger being helped out of a motor by Curbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just watched LJ’s pre match brief and it will be 3 or 4 weeks BUT, unclear as yet whether Nagy will need surgery !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Just watched LJ’s pre match brief and it will be 3 or 4 weeks BUT, unclear as yet whether Nagy will need surgery !! Nightmare. We have terrible luck with injuries. LJ must be pulling his hair out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 FFS. With him and Dasilva, it’s going to be Christmas time before we end up seeing the “real” City this season. Hopefully the rest can keep us in amongst it until then so we can push on in second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Just watched LJ’s pre match brief and it will be 3 or 4 weeks BUT, unclear as yet whether Nagy will need surgery !! The club almost always underestimates these things, as with Dasilva. And it always seems to take ages to decide if surgery is needed, which means weeks are wasted. If in doubt just get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, chinapig said: The club almost always underestimates these things, as with Dasilva. And it always seems to take ages to decide if surgery is needed, which means weeks are wasted. If in doubt just get it done. We saw with Hegeler it's not the clubs choice. It's the players on how they get treated. I know we have the tendency to view the players as livestock but "If in doubt just get it done." is not a good way to look at surgery on a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I`m starting to think I`d settle for comfortable mid-table mediocrity this season. How much more bad luck can a club have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 This has gone from just 2 days out and no swelling, to a month out and surgery possibly required FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 No pressure Massengo lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Robin101 said: Nightmare. Could have been worse though. Not too bad as no City games early Sept due to internationals Should be fit after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Prinny said: We saw with Hegeler it's not the clubs choice. It's the players on how they get treated. I know we have the tendency to view the players as livestock but "If in doubt just get it done." is not a good way to look at surgery on a person. Personally I take medical advice from experts. I have twice had surgery on my spine as a result, which has likely prevented more serious damage in the future. Does that make me livestock and should I have told the Consultant Surgeon I would decide on the best treatment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: This has gone from just 2 days out and no swelling, to a month out and surgery possibly required FFS. This is arguably the most annoying thing. How can it be ‘nothing’ to surgery? And why aren’t the club setting expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunsupport Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 How unfortunate... And the situation was so harmless in which he got injured... He was so happy on Saturday I assume the swelling came on Sunday then...He must be absolutely devastated as he never got injured before during a game, only twice in training. And for us it's a disaster: he won't be available for the most important game of the year against Slovakia. And he's got no one to fill his shoes in the national team, not for a mile... Well, bye-bye Euros then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, chinapig said: Personally I take medical advice from experts. I have twice had surgery on my spine as a result, which has likely prevented more serious damage in the future. Does that make me livestock and should I have told the Consultant Surgeon I would decide on the best treatment? What you're saying has no correlation to the point I made. No it doesn't make you livestock and yes you have the right to ask for other opinions and decide for yourself. A doctor should always tell you the risk reward and offer you different choices. You no doubt decided to have surgery, they might have recommended it, but no way did they say "you must do this" because you said "has likely prevented more serious damage in the future" meaning there's a doubt. You don't know the medical/expert advice. And if the medical advice is "wait and see", and "we're not sure"? You literally said "If in doubt just get it done." As if surgery has no risk to it. I think you're clouded by your own experience and are not thinking objectively here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, chinapig said: Personally I take medical advice from experts. I have twice had surgery on my spine as a result, which has likely prevented more serious damage in the future. Does that make me livestock and should I have told the Consultant Surgeon I would decide on the best treatment? To be fair, the doctors probably didn't huddle round your X-ray and say "yeah go on then, we'll have a go". You'd never do surgery unless necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, grifty said: To be fair, the doctors probably didn't huddle round your X-ray and say "yeah go on then, we'll have a go". You'd never do surgery unless necessary. Funnily enough that's exactly what happened. There were pros and cons, doubts and risks (including paralysis) as there always are. There was certainly doubt whether surgery would have the desired effect but after discussing the options and the probability of various outcomes from each the surgeon advised surgery. Medical decisions are often made on the balance of probabilities. I had the option of refusing of course, as a player would, but it would make little sense for me to second guess the experts. I don't see that it would be any different if I was a professional footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, chinapig said: Funnily enough that's exactly what happened. There were pros and cons, doubts and risks (including paralysis) as there always are. There was certainly doubt whether surgery would have the desired effect but after discussing the options and the probability of various outcomes from each the surgeon advised surgery. Medical decisions are often made on the balance of probabilities. I had the option of refusing of course, as a player would, but it would make little sense for me to second guess the experts. I don't see that it would be any different if I was a professional footballer. The point is you don't know what the experts have said, you were advised that whilst there were risks it was the best course in your situation, we dont know what they think of Nagy's situation. As stated in the thread its not as simple as 'if in doubt get it done'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, RedSA said: The point is you don't know what the experts have said, you were advised that it was the best course in your situation, we dont know what they think of Nagy's situation. As stated in the thread its not as simple as 'if in doubt get it done'. Fair point, badly expressed in my original post I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On th plus side of the 3-4 weeks injury 2 weeks of that will be the international break so its only really the Hull & Boro games, Massengo, Brownhill and Palmer should be enough for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I "rolled my ankle" many years ago, was fine to walk on it at first, albeit with a slight limp, but the following day I got out of bed and couldn't put any weight on it at all. Ended up being ligament damage and a lot of bruising, swelling didn't really properly come out until about 48 hours later. Wasn't able to walk properly on it for about 4-6 weeks. He's a lot fitter than I am/ever was, so if it is nothing major, then 3-4 weeks would be about right, and as others have said, international breaks will mean it won't be many games missed. That's best case scenario though, shame if that is the case, because he seems like the missing piece we've been after for a while in that position. Fingers crossed it's not the worse case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Taz said: I "rolled my ankle" many years ago, was fine to walk on it at first, albeit with a slight limp, but the following day I got out of bed and couldn't put any weight on it at all. Ended up being ligament damage and a lot of bruising, swelling didn't really properly come out until about 48 hours later. Wasn't able to walk properly on it for about 4-6 weeks. He's a lot fitter than I am/ever was, so if it is nothing major, then 3-4 weeks would be about right, and as others have said, international breaks will mean it won't be many games missed. That's best case scenario though, shame if that is the case, because he seems like the missing piece we've been after for a while in that position. Fingers crossed it's not the worse case scenario. Exactly the same but in my case left with a permanent weakness and have done it half a dozen times since just walking along the road or even once just standing still !! Harry Kane clearly has the same weakness after the same injury that Nagy has too. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Exactly the same but in my case left with a permanent weakness and have done it half a dozen times since just walking along the road or even once just standing still !! Harry Kane clearly has the same weakness after the same injury that Nagy has too. Not good. Had similar , but difference is Nagy has access to unlimited physio and medical help and I’m sure a good physio and fitness team will work on rebuilding the strength in the ankle , unlike us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Had similar , but difference is Nagy has access to unlimited physio and medical help and I’m sure a good physio and fitness team will work on rebuilding the strength in the ankle , unlike us ! You old scinic Bob ! I had the best 5 mins of free physio at Cosham hospital that my National insurance could buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Baldyman said: You old scinic Bob ! I had the best 5 mins of free physio at Cosham hospital that my National insurance could buy And a leaflet no doubt with a list of ‘to do’ exercises ! I remember lots of ankle dips on the stairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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