The Constant Rabbit Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just a reminder of my previous post which gives some insight into his much better play - he will be a star for us: Apologies for those who have read it before. "Before people get their minds made up, here's a few things that really need to be taken into account. For the last 2 yrs he has been poor to average, before that, a really decent championship standard striker - I think all would agree. So why did it go wrong? Benik had children. And with all young 'uns they disrupt your entire life and routine. This can be detrimental to a professional sportsperson. Now, in Benik's case - one of his children was poorly. Nothing life threatening, but enough to not sleep at night, have to frequently go to the Dr's etc. It causes stress - it would to all of us. So Benik wasn't sleeping himself, he would get up and share childcare duties with his wife. He started to eat rubbish, as he was tired or running late. His training standards fell as he was tired and gaining weight. The circle continued. His child is now better. I am led to believe that Benik has lost nearly 5 kg since last year, and is training at a really good level. He is now fit again. He is in a much better head space, as he isn't worried about his child all the time. Stoke have suddenly told him he is surplus, and if we want him next year, we can buy him. So we now have a fit, mentally clear-headed player with excellent proven form at this level with a serious point to prove to his ex-club. He will do very well here at City." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, SX227 said: Just a reminder of my previous post which gives some insight into his much better play - he will be a star for us: Apologies for those who have read it before. "Before people get their minds made up, here's a few things that really need to be taken into account. For the last 2 yrs he has been poor to average, before that, a really decent championship standard striker - I think all would agree. So why did it go wrong? Benik had children. And with all young 'uns they disrupt your entire life and routine. This can be detrimental to a professional sportsperson. Now, in Benik's case - one of his children was poorly. Nothing life threatening, but enough to not sleep at night, have to frequently go to the Dr's etc. It causes stress - it would to all of us. So Benik wasn't sleeping himself, he would get up and share childcare duties with his wife. He started to eat rubbish, as he was tired or running late. His training standards fell as he was tired and gaining weight. The circle continued. His child is now better. I am led to believe that Benik has lost nearly 5 kg since last year, and is training at a really good level. He is now fit again. He is in a much better head space, as he isn't worried about his child all the time. Stoke have suddenly told him he is surplus, and if we want him next year, we can buy him. So we now have a fit, mentally clear-headed player with excellent proven form at this level with a serious point to prove to his ex-club. He will do very well here at City." A striker at the top of his game, with the quality of service that surrounds him. I predict a RIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 10 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Only guessing....".............. but , for various / whatever reasons , having had little chance or game time here - I would think it was hardly a positive time for him * edit I’m referring to Woodrow in case you think I’m referring to Afobe Oh I thought you meant Afobe! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: In fairness to @Davefevs, I don’t think Woodrow is a bad player at all.. just the wrong time for I’m to be here. He needed a run of starts to find his best form and never got that. Then again, with the form of Reid and the arrival of Diedhiou that season it wasn’t realistic. Think he’ll go on to have a good career at this level. Think you’ve jumped and grabbbed the wrong end of the stick here PF Dave was one of the few to see the quality in Woodrow , and hence my post in a ‘One for you Dave’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I reckon to pick up BA for a season loan and option to buy could be a masterstroke. Has been quality at this level and can see him being good for us.Good pace,strength and decent in the air. Just feel a bit for Fam at the moment because if BA had to come back and defend every corner and set piece against us he would maybe struggle like Fam does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Think you’ve jumped and grabbbed the wrong end of the stick here PF Dave was one of the few to see the quality in Woodrow , and hence my post in a ‘One for you Dave’ Was just commenting on CW generally as I remember Dave being one of the few on here that rated Woodrow. Wasn’t necessarily commenting on what you’d posted directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Was just commenting on CW generally as I remember Dave being one of the few on here that rated Woodrow. Wasn’t necessarily commenting on what you’d posted directly. You quoted me and started your post ‘in fairness to Dave’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You quoted me and started your post ‘in fairness to Dave’ As in - people sometimes rib him in good humour for being an advocate of Woodrow I know what I mean in my own post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I think my grave stone will say: ”rated Cauley Woodrow” and instead of RIP it will say OTIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thanks to all those that replied re Option to buy and just to confirm - from OS Hopefully we have agreed a price as well, otherwise if he plays like I think he will we may have to pay a fortune for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, pillred said: Hopefully we have agreed a price as well, otherwise if he plays like I think he will we may have to pay a fortune for him. We will have an agreed fee pillred (Otherwise an option to buy doesn’t actually mean or change anything) KITR indicates the fee is very attractive to us but reading the Stoke forum they desperately want him off the wages , indicating he’d probably have to take a significant cut to come here or a package that resolves this They were paying Berahino £70k a week !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think my grave stone will say: ”rated Cauley Woodrow” and instead of RIP it will say OTIB You and me both Dave. Of course I don't expect everybody to agree with us. I respect their right to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: You and me both Dave. Of course I don't expect everybody to agree with us. I respect their right to be wrong. Listening to him on an interview in week Barnsley was a perfect fit for him - he was saying as he needs to be playing regularly to get near his best Think he’s proved his ability there and Tbf to Fevs , and yourself or others who saw his potential , I could understand why he wasn’t starting and didn’t think he’d be as heavy in goals as he’s been at Barnsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Dont think Stoke will allow him to play for us against them on Sept 14th ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, pillred said: Hopefully we have agreed a price as well, otherwise if he plays like I think he will we may have to pay a fortune for him. Yes a good fee been agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: They were paying Berahino £70k a week !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 We wanted him on a permanent and agreed a fee with Stoke, but Benik didn’t want to commit so a loan with option was agreed. Let’s hope he settles in Bristol and enjoys playing for City and we can get him end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touch_my_butter Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: We will have an agreed fee pillred (Otherwise an option to buy doesn’t actually mean or change anything) KITR indicates the fee is very attractive to us but reading the Stoke forum they desperately want him off the wages , indicating he’d probably have to take a significant cut to come here or a package that resolves this They were paying Berahino £70k a week !! True, but Stoke signed Berahino when they were still in the Prem, plus were chasing him for over a year. Afobe was signed after Stoke were relegated to the Championship. He won't be on anywhere near £70k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Magicdaps said: Genuine turn of pace, something that we've missed for as long as I can remember. Seemed to visibly grow during the game and you could see the smile on his face at times, also looked like he grew in confidence and self belief directly in parallel with the love from the stands, something he's perhaps been starved of at Stoke. Feels like a good fit for all parties and I've got a feeling that he's going to flourish Strikers thrive on confidence. Only players who are at the very top of the game can ignore the criticism and not let a poor run of form ruin your confidence Get behind this kid, and once he gets a couple more goals....his confidence will return and I think we could have a real player on our hands here You don't lose ability over night. Confidence you can....ability you don't Get behind him and he will score goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: We will have an agreed fee pillred (Otherwise an option to buy doesn’t actually mean or change anything) KITR indicates the fee is very attractive to us but reading the Stoke forum they desperately want him off the wages , http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/289616/afobe-scores They are welcome to him and his wages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Selred said: We wanted him on a permanent and agreed a fee with Stoke, but Benik didn’t want to commit so a loan with option was agreed. Let’s hope he settles in Bristol and enjoys playing for City and we can get him end of the season. I can understand that attitude. Given what`s happened to him over the last couple of years he must want to make sure that his next permanent move is the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, 22A said: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/289616/afobe-scores They are welcome to him and his wages! What a shit site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 17 hours ago, MC RISK77 said: My man of match today, ran his socks off worked the channels, put pressure on their defenders and took his chance clinically. Tough on Fam but think he will find it hard to get a starting place this season if today is anything to go by Clever player, a proper outlet and kept the oppositon honest all game. Great attitude and streetwise. Really pleased for him and reckon he might prove a few doubters wrong this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Strikers thrive on confidence. Only players who are at the very top of the game can ignore the criticism and not let a poor run of form ruin your confidence Get behind this kid, and once he gets a couple more goals....his confidence will return and I think we could have a real player on our hands here You don't lose ability over night. Confidence you can....ability you don't Get behind him and he will score goals After he scored yesterday his confidence and energy seemed to go through the roof. it can only be a positive for him and the club that he has got on the score sheet so soon and the fans singing his name. He looked well pumped at the end of the game He needs to be scoring us 15-20 goals this season to give us any chance of challenging the top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 36 minutes ago, Touch_my_butter said: True, but Stoke signed Berahino when they were still in the Prem, plus were chasing him for over a year. Afobe was signed after Stoke were relegated to the Championship. He won't be on anywhere near £70k. Wouldn’t think he was But he was their marquee signing to shoot them straight back up , and around the same time they gave Centre half , Ryan Shawcross a new £55k a week contract ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Touch_my_butter said: True, but Stoke signed Berahino when they were still in the Prem, plus were chasing him for over a year. Afobe was signed after Stoke were relegated to the Championship. He won't be on anywhere near £70k. £27k per week on Football Manager database??? Might not be a million miles off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: £27k per week on Football Manager database??? Might not be a million miles off. Interestingly he never comes up on any leaked lists but I’d be surprised at £27k tbh Dave - when you look at some of the wages they are still paying , and whe;they signed him (First year of parachute payments - and he was their marquee signing at that time) https://www.spotrac.com/epl/stoke-city-f.c/payroll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Interestingly he never comes up on any leaked lists but I’d be surprised at £27k tbh Dave - when you look at some of the wages they are still paying , and whe;they signed him (First year of parachute payments - and he was their marquee signing at that time) https://www.spotrac.com/epl/stoke-city-f.c/payroll/ Yeah, quite possibly, any possibility that either Bournemouth or Wolves might be laying some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Yeah, quite possibly, any possibility that either Bournemouth or Wolves might be laying some? Interesting thought Wolves possibly - when they went up they had to buy him for £12m as a result of a promotion clause in his loan deal but didn’t want him and the reason he was immediately sold to Stoke So definitely a possibility The fact they were handing £55k to Shawcross around the same time is frightening My only other thought is , we will know what he’s currently on , and thus why would we bother with an option to buy if he was clearly way out of reach wages wise on a perm Need to do some ruthless housekeeping though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think my grave stone will say: ”rated Cauley Woodrow” and instead of RIP it will say OTIB It'll probably feature a heat map too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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