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Fair play to Warbuton didnt just shove 11 men behind the ball like one or two did last season. Always liked him as a manager got a tough job there though.

Thought they were really average. Ropey at the back and not a huge threat up top....I wanted us to go for Hugill but doesnt look nearly as Mobile or pacey as Afobe....a target man but a limited one.

 

They had a lot of possession but did very little with it.

Thought there best player was the number 20 out wide looked there only real threat and other than the header it all seemed pretty comfortable.

Seeing that was nearly their full strength team I worry that Amos and Smith are gena struggle at this level....neat and tidy but I thought the game passed them by especially Smith.

Lower mid table team, need to upgrade in all positions really but hope they give warburton time....17th 18yh I recon

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Just now, JonDolman said:

Wish we had that Ryan Manning their left back. Very good player he looks to me. Would be ideal for us with Dasilva out.

He usually plays cm for them but their left back is injured.

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Their RW was very good, less talent than Elliason but much better at taking his man on, like COD but trying & stronger.

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1 minute ago, Lez said:

He usually plays cm for them but their left back is injured.

I thought I read or heard in the build up that Manning will keep his place, even though Wallace is available.

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Nice pretty patterns without the cutting edge today. Not sure whether Hugill suits the way they play tbh. Will win some, lose some but have enough to be in the Championship next season. Eeze and Samuel are old fashioned wide players in terms of World Beater one week, Panel Beater the next.

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2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Nice pretty patterns without the cutting edge today. Not sure whether Hugill suits the way they play tbh. Will win some, lose some but have enough to be in the Championship next season. Eeze and Samuel are old fashioned wide players in terms of World Beater one week, Panel Beater the next.

Maybe he's just not that great.

Never understood the love for him on here.

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They really pressed us hard and had the right tactics in the first half, to the extent that until Bentley started kicking it long, we couldn’t get out of our own half.

No.20 for them was an outlet all game, and when he ran direct was a real threat. Bit of a dying swan when tackled though.

The real issue was there lack of bite up front. Good for us but not for them. Need to get Wells playing more regularly as I don’t see Hugill offering much based on that performance.

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2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Maybe he's just not that great.

Never understood the love for him on here.

Can tell your a big fan of Hugill, as you come in every time his name is mentioned.

What is it exactly that makes you think he could make it at the top level?

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1 minute ago, stephenkibby. said:

Can tell your a big fan of Hugill, as you come in every time his name is mentioned.

What is it exactly that makes you think he could make it at the top level?

Assuming sarcasm?

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No 20 certainly had the b0ll0x to take his man on. Having said that he also put Rowe’s in his throat before H/T. 

Disgusting petulance and how that inept referee saw that as only a yellow is beyond me!

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2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said:

Maybe he's just not that great.

Never understood the love for him on here.

He`s up there with Assombalonga as totally overrated and overpriced IMO.

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I thought they looked decent and taught us a footballing lesson at times before the goal. The second goal was a massive error and they never recovered after that.

 

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7 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

We made them look very average. A very comfortable win today. Are they poor or are we decent?

Judging by OTIBs track record in praising City/LJ too much, they were poor. 

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Well we all see things differently. Thought they were better than us first half and the black lad  (Eze I think who resembles the Liverpool forward)  was really mobile and liked his game. It made me laugh (and him) when a chorus boomed out

' your only a sh1te Casey Palmer'   The was good humour !!  I thought Hugill would have caused us problems but it shows what a good game Bakes and kalus had. LJ said bakes was back to his best, and he was.

At end we deserved the points. QPR. Mid table.  Good manager.  We can only get better

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I thought QPR pressed us well, were mobile and found space effectively. For the first 30 mins it felt to me like it was only going to be a matter of time before they were going to score.

Their keeper was dodgy, though, and ultimately they were toothless up front.

 

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17 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

Well we all see things differently. Thought they were better than us first half and the black lad  (Eze I think who resembles the Liverpool forward)  was really mobile and liked his game. It made me laugh (and him) when a chorus boomed out

' your only a sh1te Casey Palmer'   The was good humour !!  I thought Hugill would have caused us problems but it shows what a good game Bakes and kalus had. LJ said bakes was back to his best, and he was.

At end we deserved the points. QPR. Mid table.  Good manager.  We can only get better

Eze is a class act

If we hadn’t homed in on Palmer I’d love to have seen us make a cheeky enquiry in the window gone (Don’t think for a moment we would have got him )

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They were awful and made us look even worse than that for the first 30 mins or so. A better team would have had us buried before we scored the first. But after we scored we never looked threatened despite how poor we were. 

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8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

They were awful and made us look even worse than that for the first 30 mins or so. A better team would have had us buried before we scored the first. But after we scored we never looked threatened despite how poor we were. 

Not sure they were awful but agree a good side , a Norwich Of last season would have damaged us in the first half

I think we might be in for a season like today with quite a few bumps and I don’t expect us to be a real top end threat tbh

If we can form a side utilising the abilities of our more obvious pluses and sort out the couple of obvious deficiencies / areas we have the elements , at least , of a very decent side 

I don’t see it all gelling to make us a real force this season from a consistency POV but I did think there was some real positives today and some individual moments and quality play  that tbh were scant throughout last season 

A ‘bumpy’ but entertaining season IMHO

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13 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Not sure they were awful but agree a good side , a Norwich Of last season would have damaged us in the first half

I think we might be in for a season like today with quite a few bumps and I don’t expect us to be a real top end threat tbh

If we can form a side utilising the abilities of our more obvious pluses and sort out the couple of obvious deficiencies / areas we have the elements , at least , of a very decent side 

I don’t see it all gelling to make us a real force this season from a consistency POV but I did think there was some real positives today and some individual moments and quality play  that tbh were scant throughout last season 

A ‘bumpy’ but entertaining season IMHO

Don’t know what you’re expecting Bob with what is essentially a new squad of players. It’ll take time for them to gel and understand each other’s games.

I saw two very classy performances in each half from Nadge and Messengo who showed what great ability they have.  TM was solid other than one error when he was dispossessed (he’ll learn from that)  Baker was excellent as was Weimann and Afobe who caused QPR problems all game.

For a new team it was a decent performance with a hint of what’s to come when they’ve gelled as a squad and I’m cautiously optimistic for the coming season.

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15 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Not sure they were awful but agree a good side , a Norwich Of last season would have damaged us in the first half

I think we might be in for a season like today with quite a few bumps and I don’t expect us to be a real top end threat tbh

If we can form a side utilising the abilities of our more obvious pluses and sort out the couple of obvious deficiencies / areas we have the elements , at least , of a very decent side 

I don’t see it all gelling to make us a real force this season from a consistency POV but I did think there was some real positives today and some individual moments and quality play  that tbh were scant throughout last season 

A ‘bumpy’ but entertaining season IMHO

Can't see it gelling quickly enough BBSB. Which is hardly surprising given how many changes and the late loss of Webster in the window!

It will take time, just bound to IMO. Does it form the basis for the following year or 2? I think yes a foundation is there and age is on the side of many in the squad, plus likes of O'Leary, Vyner and Morrell to name 3 who could strengthen us further and are of the right profile.

Thought QPR were not the worst but not amazing either. Probably somewhere between 14th-18th.

Us? Well a nice win today, hopefully kickstart things but a lot to improve on in some areas- Nagy excellent took his goal very well, Afobe may just be the striker we're looking for, have a good feeling about him- think was clinical with his finish, instinctive too- upgrade on Diedhiou certainly!

IF we get a good CB for 5-6 months on a free until January or even a year or 2 if they prove excellent- Caceres and Ramalho look good this equation could well change and they both good quality and the former can play comfortably in a back 4 or 3 alike- high pedigree if just the wrong side of 30. Can also cover all areas of defence I think Harry said on another thread.

That CB if the right one even if on a free could prove an game changer still I reckon.

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12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Don’t know what you’re expecting Bob with what is essentially a new squad of players. It’ll take time for them to gel and understand each other’s games.

I saw two very classy performances in each half from Nadge and Messengo who showed what great ability they have.  TM was solid other than one error when he was dispossessed (he’ll learn from that)  Baker was excellent as was Weimann and Afobe who caused QPR problems all game.

For a new team it was a decent performance with a hint of what’s to come when they’ve gelled as a squad and I’m cautiously optimistic for the coming season.

Havnt a clue what you are on about 

Personally I was expecting a side that looked like they’d recently been put together , (and feared a difficult afternoon, ) which they did at times ,     and I hoped to see some good signs of promise amongst our new acquisitions,.......... I did, ....I more than did .......but I think our obvious limitations atm in some areas and the fact this group need to fully integrate together means that at times we may get picked off by some better sides  .....

So what Am I missing in your opening words ? 

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8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Havnt a clue what you are on about 

Personally I was expecting a side that looked like they’d recently been put together , (and feared a difficult afternoon, ) which they did at times ,     and I hoped to see some good signs of promise amongst our new acquisitions,.......... I did, ....I more than did .......but I think our obvious limitations atm in some areas and the fact this group need to fully integrate together means that at times we may get picked off by some better sides  .....

So what Am I missing in your opening words ? 

You posted that you couldn’t see City gelling to become a force.........that’s why I asked what you were expecting.... what is it about that simple question that you don’t understand?             :dunno:

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8 minutes ago, Robbored said:

You posted that you couldn’t see City gelling to become a force.........that’s why I asked what you were expecting.... what is it about that simple question that you don’t understand?             :dunno:

Yes , ....a force this season in terms of promotion

 

They might do , but big ask to get everything sorted out so quickly 

 

ive just checked my post that you queried 

‘ I don’t see it all gelling to make us a real force this season from a consistency POV but I did think there was some real positives today ‘

Pretty plain English really , well post Primary at least

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Was chatting to a couple of their fans on the train on the way home.  They genuinely thought that they were the better team for the whole game.  Even when they were playing aimless balls into touch.  Mind you, they were from Devizes and thought that our fans were worse than Swindon's.  *****...

 

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7 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Any hope of an intelligent exchange unsurprisingly hits the buffers

Troll at work 

 

Ain"t that the truth

Every time

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36 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Ain"t that the truth

Every time

CR - pretty much every time I question any poster or I simply don’t agree with them I’m of accused of ‘trolling’.............

Isn’t this forum supposed to be a platform where posters can debate, comment and discuss all things Bristol City?

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Their performance yesterday reminded me of us a couple seasons back when it all went Pete Tong after Christmas. 

Loud bark but no bite springs to mind.

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My opinion is that there are a lot of pluses with our new team, but it’s not yet the finished article, and it will take time for the new players to adapt to the demands of the Championship. Can’t see us getting close to last seasons tally of away points.

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45 minutes ago, Robbored said:

CR - pretty much every time I question any poster or I simply don’t agree with them I’m of accused of ‘trolling’.............

Isn’t this forum supposed to be a platform where posters can debate, comment and discuss all things Bristol City?

Troll is a polite term for what you are

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56 minutes ago, Robbored said:

CR - pretty much every time I question any poster or I simply don’t agree with them I’m of accused of ‘trolling’.............

Isn’t this forum supposed to be a platform where posters can debate, comment and discuss all things Bristol City?

misfits nathan GIF

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1 minute ago, CodeRed said:

misfits nathan GIF

I was expecting a more sophisticated reply than that CR..............:cool2:

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9 hours ago, Vespa Red said:

Was chatting to a couple of their fans on the train on the way home.  They genuinely thought that they were the better team for the whole game.  Even when they were playing aimless balls into touch.  Mind you, they were from Devizes and thought that our fans were worse than Swindon's.  *****...

 

I can see why they felt that. I thought they looked sharper and more cohesive for the majority of the game, just lacked in the final third. 

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20 minutes ago, Chappers said:

My opinion is that there are a lot of pluses with our new team, but it’s not yet the finished article, and it will take time for the new players to adapt to the demands of the Championship. Can’t see us getting close to last seasons tally of away points.

I'm hopeful that, and there are a lot of "ifs" involved,

if we get all our injured players back and up to speed by Jan,

and if we can bring in one or two quality OCC players in the mean time,

and if we can manage to pick up a decent number of points until Christmas,

and if the new guys manage to gel with the rest,

and if we don't get any more long term injuries.

then I'm hoping that we do the opposite of what we did in the season before last, and rather than fall away, we have a really strong run in to the end of the season.

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On the game, I thought they were the better side until around the first goal. They looked ok throughout, just lacked a real spark up front, which is odd given the options they have. I was interested how we set up . 3 CB's ,but for a lot of the time when  Hunt went forward it looked like a back 4 with Moore moving over. It didn't look the same on the left.
@BobBobSuperBob, I guess you mean top 2 by real challenge. Hard to argue this early and with injuries and new players settling in. I am hopeful though, and a lot of that comes down to having a mobile threat up front. I like Fam, but he has his limitations and can be quite static, with Afobe and Weimann we have players making runs that KP can feed in. That's another plus, Palmer's defensive side looks much better already. Add Nagy and Massengo , which could bring out the best in Brownhill, even allow us to get Eliasson and ODowda playing more. Bentley seems to have the presence that FF lacked, hopefully his confidence grows and he turns out to be the player we should have bought 4 years ago.
As I said hopeful, I think we need to give it 10 games and see where we are, but it could be a good season (or even very good) . A lot could come down to the injuries, and how we cope. BW out for 10 weeks and JD for 5 months or more, we need a LB/LWB more than another CB IMO. TM's form has eased the need a little, unless we continue with a 3, in which case we would need cover. I see Rowe as doing a job at LB, along the lines of BW did at RB , but it's a big ask for him to do it for a season without rest and not get a knock. We have cover everywhere else, and decent options so for me that is the main question mark , defensive cover. 

Genuinely excited about the 2 new lads, well 3 really as Afobe is what we probably hoped Fam would be. The defence looks solid even if we lack the ball playing back type player and Bentley looks like being a good signing. At this stage , just promising, 10 games in and we will see where things are going.

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In the cold light of day, if I`d watched the game on Sky and didn`t support City or QPR I`d probably have thought the home side never really looked in trouble and it was game over after the second goal went in.

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13 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

In the cold light of day, if I`d watched the game on Sky and didn`t support City or QPR I`d probably have thought the home side never really looked in trouble and it was game over after the second goal went in.

Agree.  Think it’s natural to feel we were under the cosh a bit, when we weren’t really.

They “slung” a couple of dangerous crosses across the box and Hugill has a speculative shot on the volley, but we defended well both in terms of challenges and positional.  Did Bentley have a shot to save in that opening half hour?  Don’t recall.  In fact Statszone backs this up.

They had possession up to 30 yards out, but we looked very compact.  What we didn’t do was pinch the ball early in their possession.

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They looked decent first half but that’s only because we surrendered the midfield to them due to our formation.

Our goal came against the run of play but Nagy struck it well and QPR probably felt a bit aggrieved to be losing at half time

 Nagy going off and Massengo coming on changed they dynamic slightly and he certainly made his mark with some good touches, passing and late runs into the box which could and should have got him a goal on his home debut

Overall, thought we just about deserved the 3 points but still a lot to do if we want to dominate possession and play a more attacking style 

It’s going to take time but Webster leaving has taken away that pivot point for the midfield to play to and from and we are missing something 

Big loss to not have Dasilva available for 5 months also, anymore long term injuries and we will be looking at square pegs in round holes 

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QPR looked alright before we scored without really troubling our goal. One chance apart (Hugill's header, great save by Bentley) they were beaten once we scored. Kept possession well but didn't really do much with it.

City are clearly a 'work in progress'. Yes. it wasn't great but there are, as said, positives we can take from yesterday.

As Bob says, it's going to be bumpy for a while as the team settles but how long that takes is the crux for our season IMHO. If it's say 6 games, we might still do well this season but if it takes longer we're in for a mid table season with better to come. We're essentially starting pre season again tactically.

Just my opinion but I reckon we'll be decent, hopefully by around October, once we've settled. 

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