boadle Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Loving the new look Bristol City squad and it’s potential, but I’m a bit concerned at KP’s love of a desperate sliding tackle. He seems to do several a game and it’s only a matter of time before it costs us a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Meh - it’s funny to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I would take an occasional red if it means we are getting that effort from Kasey. Imagine if he does get a red at some point he learns from it and reigns it in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, boadle said: Loving the new look Bristol City squad and it’s potential, but I’m a bit concerned at KP’s love of a desperate sliding tackle. He seems to do several a game and it’s only a matter of time before it costs us a red card. He committed just one foul yesterday and I can't remember thinking any of his challenges were reckless or dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCadam Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I know what you mean, sort of like Semenyo's red V Derby last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Rather see him getting stuck in than standing off admiring the opposition He led by example yesterday and it was pleasing to see such a talented player do the dirty work as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, boadle said: Loving the new look Bristol City squad and it’s potential, but I’m a bit concerned at KP’s love of a desperate sliding tackle. He seems to do several a game and it’s only a matter of time before it costs us a red card. If players are doing sliding tackles in this day and age, it's because they were out of position in the first place, not urgent enough or trying to recover from a mistake. No need for them unless absolute no other option. There's a quote from Ibrahimovich who had a player slide into him...he just looked at him with pity :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, spudski said: If players are doing sliding tackles in this day and age, it's because they were out of position in the first place, not urgent enough or trying to recover from a mistake. No need for them unless absolute no other option. There's a quote from Ibrahimovich who had a player slide into him...he just looked at him with pity It is the way it has always been. Maldini famously said that if you need to make a tackle you've made an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, spudski said: If players are doing sliding tackles in this day and age, it's because they were out of position in the first place, not urgent enough or trying to recover from a mistake. No need for them unless absolute no other option. There's a quote from Ibrahimovich who had a player slide into him...he just looked at him with pity Or because that's the only way to stop a player quicker than you? Or the only way to get to a through ball first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, spudski said: If players are doing sliding tackles in this day and age, it's because they were out of position in the first place, not urgent enough or trying to recover from a mistake. No need for them unless absolute no other option. There's a quote from Ibrahimovich who had a player slide into him...he just looked at him with pity 1 minute ago, ZiderEyed said: It is the way it has always been. Maldini famously said that if you need to make a tackle you've made an error. .....and that’s fine if you’re Maldini or a defender. It’s a bit like saying goals only come about because of mistakes. Of course it’s true, but the game is all about mistakes in some shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ZiderEyed said: It is the way it has always been. Maldini famously said that if you need to make a tackle you've made an error. The only positive that ever comes out of a sliding tackle is that it gets a British crowd fired up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Or because that's the only way to stop a player quicker than you? Or the only way to get to a through ball first? It's an emergency measure for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, spudski said: If players are doing sliding tackles in this day and age, it's because they were out of position in the first place, not urgent enough or trying to recover from a mistake. No need for them unless absolute no other option. There's a quote from Ibrahimovich who had a player slide into him...he just looked at him with pity 5 minutes ago, spudski said: It's an emergency measure for sure. Yes for a defender or defensive midfielder, where their position is more set. As an attacking midfielder Palmer will always be on the move without the ball, making a slide tackle far more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: .....and that’s fine if you’re Maldini or a defender. It’s a bit like saying goals only come about because of mistakes. Of course it’s true, but the game is all about mistakes in some shape or form. Not saying it's worth him being hung drawn and quartered over, but if you're talking seriously, call it what it is: a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, James54De said: Yes for a defender or defensive midfielder, where their position is more set. As an attacking midfielder Palmer will always be on the move without the ball, making a slide tackle far more likely. Palmer will always be on the move without the ball? I beg to differ...it's the one thing he has to massively improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Yeh he’s a Paul Scholes in the tackle - it’s fine when not on booking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, INCRED said: Rather see him getting stuck in than standing off admiring the opposition He led by example yesterday and it was pleasing to see such a talented player do the dirty work as well This 100%. This is his club now, he's not on loan. He has to lead by example and he has done that so far. Im excited as I feel there is much much more to come from him. The summer in the gym seems to have worked too, with players bouncing off of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamon Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, spudski said: The only positive that ever comes out of a sliding tackle is that it gets a British crowd fired up. Marvelous to watch, he gets stuck in and I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, gamon said: Marvelous to watch, he gets stuck in and I like it. I can suggest the downs league if that's your thing...Ave it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I know the actions spoken about, but I would more refer to it as a block ( am I being pedantic?). It’s not a 50/50 type tackle ala Semenyo. It’s more often than not, a sliding block against a fullback clipping it down the touch line, isn’t it? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Don’t think it would be a red, doesn’t lead 2 footed or with his foot in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 18, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, spudski said: The only positive that ever comes out of a sliding tackle is that it gets a British crowd fired up. The only? What about then potentially having possession of the ball when previously it was at the feet of an opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ian M said: The only? What about then potentially having possession of the ball when previously it was at the feet of an opponent? Slightly pedantic and missing the gist I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Cat Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Whilst we're on the subject of tackling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, City Cat said: Whilst we're on the subject of tackling.... A class act, who when he tackled more often than not won the ball. Judged accordingly. When deciding to tackle, you need to win possession for it to be successful. No point in sliding in or making a tackle, if you've ended up on your arse with the opposition in possession still. It's got to be calculated to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Yes a sliding tackle is risky and a desperate way of defending .... but a well-timed one that gets the crowd going is a thing of beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, spudski said: I can suggest the downs league if that's your thing...Ave it So you’re saying Palmer should be on the Downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boadle Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Simon79 said: I know the actions spoken about, but I would more refer to it as a block ( am I being pedantic?). It’s not a 50/50 type tackle ala Semenyo. It’s more often than not, a sliding block against a fullback clipping it down the touch line, isn’t it? COYR Yes you’re right. He kind of throws himself into a sliding block, generally in front of the player, usually the fullback, and usually to block a clearance. I think he did it in the first 10 seconds of Saturdays game. I guess it’s not the same as a full contact sliding tackle, but I always wince because it has the potential to go wrong, but also because it’s really easy to read, and the opponent generally Cruyff-turns out of it, leaving KP looking a bit amateurish. Not the biggest complaint, but something to look out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Forza slide tackles. Seeing Baker absolutely crunching a poor lad is just as brilliant to watch as a sublime through ball from Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 hours ago, spudski said: The only positive that ever comes out of a sliding tackle is that it gets a British crowd fired up. Nonsense. No defender can ever position themselves perfectly to stop a skilful attacker beating them in any direction. A perfect sliding tackle to dispossess a brilliant winger flying past you is a great skill. What would YOU do, let him go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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