BRISTOL86 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Deserves huge credit. Intelligent player and his quick thinking has resulted in two big goals in the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 That run over / dummy for Joshs Goal (Brilliantly taken by Josh) Delicious For me personally , His workmate and effort simply outstanding , his movement at times excellent and some moments in most games when you see he’s played in Prem If I was being really really really picky there is the odd moment when he might be better actually staying still / holding his position but that sounds crass Watching the game back again , together with Afobe, their ‘leadership’ of the side from the front, in terms of blocking , work on shape , talking to others , providing an outlet etc etc was superb and full of nous and experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: Man of the match Taylor Moore I would say. He really did look the part last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That run over / dummy for Joshs Goal (Brilliantly taken by Josh) Delicious For me personally , His workmate and effort simply outstanding , his movement at times excellent and some moments in most games when you see he’s played in Prem If I was being really really really picky there is the odd moment when he might be better actually staying still / holding his position but that sounds crass Watching the game back again , together with Afobe, their ‘leadership’ of the side from the front, in terms of blocking , work on shape , talking to others , providing an outlet etc etc was superb and full of nous and experience Transitions from defending to attack that do not happen with Famara in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Transitions from defending to attack that do not happen with Famara in the team. In Fanny’s defence he’s normally the one making the clearance, he was one of our best defenders at corners sometimes last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Monkeh said: In Fanny’s defence he’s normally the one making the clearance, he was one of our best defenders at corners sometimes last season Defending set pieces are not generally thought of as transitions from defending to attack. Think along the lines of who helps the team press better, which two of three out of Afobe, Wiemann and Diedhiou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Palmer helps Weimanns game immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Defending set pieces are not generally thought of as transitions from defending to attack. Think along the lines of who helps the team press better, which two of three out of Afobe, Wiemann and Diedhiou? Could Weimann as this team gels, perform the "trigger" role that Reid did 2 seasons ago, notably in the great 4-4-1-1 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I thought Weimann was average or poor in at least a third to half of the games last season. In the last 3 games he has been excellent. Really looks that player we had in his early games for us. Goes to show how important systems are and who you have playing near you. Fam up top with him in a 442 he generally struggled. Wide right in a 4141 with Fam up top, he had some good games, but certainly at home looked lost. Often passing it back to Hunt, not having the natural attributes of a wide man to take on his man. Rarely even crossed the ball as couldn't work that yard of space that Eliasson can. Up top in a 2, alongside a pacy strong forward, the class of Kasey in behind as well as mobile pair of midfielders who occasionally join in with attacks coming up, Weimann fits in perfectly. It's not that Weimann was any worse last season than he is now..it's how LJ used him and who he had playing around him. He has 2 goals now, and would really be amazing if he could keep scoring at a decent rate all season. Hope he keeps this composure he has shown this season in key moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I couldn’t believe some of the player ratings on here last night when he was one of our lowest he was excellent. Didn’t stop running. Not once. Made some incredible runs that were pied off by team mates. Played a cruicial role in 2nd too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That run over / dummy for Joshs Goal (Brilliantly taken by Josh) Delicious For me personally , His workmate and effort simply outstanding , his movement at times excellent and some moments in most games when you see he’s played in Prem If I was being really really really picky there is the odd moment when he might be better actually staying still / holding his position but that sounds crass Watching the game back again , together with Afobe, their ‘leadership’ of the side from the front, in terms of blocking , work on shape , talking to others , providing an outlet etc etc was superb and full of nous and experience Alan Ball’s father, who I understand was well respected in the football world, said to his son at Southampton, that the best skill Matt Le Tissier had was that he knew how to stand still and create space by standing still. I know Le Tiss wasn’t and energetic player, so maybe it suited him, but whilst all others were charging about, Le Tiss found space by standing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Alan Ball’s father, who I understand was well respected in the football world, said to his son at Southampton, that the best skill Matt Le Tissier had was that he knew how to stand still and create space by standing still. I know Le Tiss wasn’t and energetic player, so maybe it suited him, but whilst all others were charging about, Le Tiss found space by standing still. This is increasingly my tactic as my legs and brain both mature. Sadly I play centre half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 10 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That run over / dummy for Joshs Goal (Brilliantly taken by Josh) Delicious For me personally , His workmate and effort simply outstanding , his movement at times excellent and some moments in most games when you see he’s played in Prem If I was being really really really picky there is the odd moment when he might be better actually staying still / holding his position but that sounds crass Watching the game back again , together with Afobe, their ‘leadership’ of the side from the front, in terms of blocking , work on shape , talking to others , providing an outlet etc etc was superb and full of nous and experience I think his partnership is better with Afobe, they seemed to have clicked immediately. When Diedhiou came on you could see him and Weinmann played further apart. 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: I thought Weimann was average or poor in at least a third to half of the games last season. In the last 3 games he has been excellent. Really looks that player we had in his early games for us. Goes to show how important systems are and who you have playing near you. Fam up top with him in a 442 he generally struggled. Wide right in a 4141 with Fam up top, he had some good games, but certainly at home looked lost. Often passing it back to Hunt, not having the natural attributes of a wide man to take on his man. Rarely even crossed the ball as couldn't work that yard of space that Eliasson can. Up top in a 2, alongside a pacy strong forward, the class of Kasey in behind as well as mobile pair of midfielders who occasionally join in with attacks coming up, Weimann fits in perfectly. It's not that Weimann was any worse last season than he is now..it's how LJ used him and who he had playing around him. He has 2 goals now, and would really be amazing if he could keep scoring at a decent rate all season. Hope he keeps this composure he has shown this season in key moments. As mentioned above, but I think saying he was poor in third to half his games last season is a bit far. But that’s your opinion but mine I think he wasn’t appreciated for his tireless running and then not getting picked out when in position. How many times did we see him getting forward to then having no one in attack with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said: I think his partnership is better with Afobe, they seemed to have clicked immediately. When Diedhiou came on you could see him and Weinmann played further apart. As mentioned above, but I think saying he was poor in third to half his games last season is a bit far. Dunno whether that was intentional or not. Weimann (from memory) went right, almost in a 541. Happy to be corrected. For info, here’s Weimann with Afobe (left) and Diedhiou (right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: I thought Weimann was average or poor in at least a third to half of the games last season. In the last 3 games he has been excellent. Really looks that player we had in his early games for us. Goes to show how important systems are and who you have playing near you. Fam up top with him in a 442 he generally struggled. Wide right in a 4141 with Fam up top, he had some good games, but certainly at home looked lost. Often passing it back to Hunt, not having the natural attributes of a wide man to take on his man. Rarely even crossed the ball as couldn't work that yard of space that Eliasson can. Up top in a 2, alongside a pacy strong forward, the class of Kasey in behind as well as mobile pair of midfielders who occasionally join in with attacks coming up, Weimann fits in perfectly. It's not that Weimann was any worse last season than he is now..it's how LJ used him and who he had playing around him. He has 2 goals now, and would really be amazing if he could keep scoring at a decent rate all season. Hope he keeps this composure he has shown this season in key moments. He was made to look worse than he was because of fams lack of and poor movement off the ball, it makes a big difference when they’re on the same wavelength . I know people love fam for his work rate ( should be a given for any player ) but he’s not a very intelligent footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, EmersonsRed said: I couldn’t believe some of the player ratings on here last night when he was one of our lowest he was excellent. Didn’t stop running. Not once. Made some incredible runs that were pied off by team mates. Played a cruicial role in 2nd too Almost seems cruel that technically he does not get an assist for the second as he did not touch it, which was what caused the assist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Could Weimann as this team gels, perform the "trigger" role that Reid did 2 seasons ago, notably in the great 4-4-1-1 run. Yes but I see that as all parts of the team need to moving towards that but the merit I see is how much more flexible the team becomes with a two of Afobe/Weimann is without the ball, instead of Famara being in a two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I chuckle when I think how I’d quickly describe our hard working Austrian to someone who hadn’t seen him if Liam Robinson was a version of a style of footballers and Liam was a ‘Standard Version’ Weimann would be the significant upgrade , silver edition I reckon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I think Weimann is a player that needs others to be on his wavelength. We've had a few like that over the years.. Trundle, Hartley, Noble, Gavin Williams, Sno, JET, Kodjia.. ones that have needed players to spot their runs or have almost a telepathic understanding of what they want to do. Several of those weren't utilised to their potential. Perhaps with Weimann.. now players like Palmer, Massengo, Afobe and Nagy are in the team, will make more of his intelligence and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I chuckle when I think how I’d quickly describe our hard working Austrian to someone who hadn’t seen him if Liam Robinson was a version of a style of footballers and Liam was a ‘Standard Version’ Weimann would be the significant upgrade , silver edition I reckon ! That’s uncanny, was only talking with someone last week who isn’t Weimann’s biggest fan, and often refers to him as being similar to Liam Robinson. In fairness after the other night he did say Weimann is better than he thought, especially up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s uncanny, was only talking with someone last week who isn’t Weimann’s biggest fan, and often refers to him as being similar to Liam Robinson. In fairness after the other night he did say Weimann is better than he thought, especially up top. I thought Liam Robinson was undervalued here He was no finisher but his game and workrate didn’t half make us a better team His movement was also excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuedgeRed Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 This guy is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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