Northern Red Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 And on a related subject, I know he's one of us, but Kevin Friend really isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, Up The City! said: For me, he had plenty of time to move his hand so therefore it should be hand ball. So you want him to move his arm from a natural position to an unnatural position to try avoiding the ball, but if it then still catches his arm its now in an unnatural position and will be given as a penalty, its tucked into his body, not sure where he's supposed to try and move it. 7 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: I’d change the offside rule, so there had to be clear daylight between the attacker and the last defender. It seems mad to me that part of your body can be onside and part off. Okay so daylight between all the body/upper body or what? if its all body then you'll get the discussion is a fraction of his boot still in line with the defender etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNSnse Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: I’d change the offside rule, so there had to be clear daylight between the attacker and the last defender. It seems mad to me that part of your body can be onside and part off. Like the ball being over the line or not for a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkadink Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr Balls said: Admittedly the poor punter at the ground doesn’t get to see any of that, same as football At rugby, both league and union, the crowd get to see what's being reviewed on the big screen whilst the game is stopped. That in itself becomes a spectacle and adds to the atmosphere. VAR needed to happen but laws and methods around it need refining. IE; officials make an on field decision and signal it then VAR looks for "Clear and obvious" contradictions otherwise on field call stands. Will speed up the process as an added bonus plus similar tweaks to the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: VAR is crap, and it's being made worse by the way the PL is implementing it. They're petrified of being seen to be undermining their referees, even on obvious mistakes like that penalty shout tonight. In fairness though it worked with the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Super said: In fairness though it worked with the goal. In fairness tho, a premier League lino should not be making such a bad call, he wasn't marginally onside, he was massively onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Up The City! said: In fairness tho, a premier League lino should not be making such a bad call, he wasn't marginally onside, he was massively onside. I agree but that's why VAR is a good thing when it can correct such a shocking decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 hours ago, hodge said: So you want him to move his arm from a natural position to an unnatural position to try avoiding the ball, but if it then still catches his arm its now in an unnatural position and will be given as a penalty, its tucked into his body, not sure where he's supposed to try and move it. Okay so daylight between all the body/upper body or what? if its all body then you'll get the discussion is a fraction of his boot still in line with the defender etc Then bring back the definition of “seeking to gain an advantage”, that way you can say that’s offside as they are a body width ahead of their marker. Having your toe or shoulder slightly ahead of the player is not seeking to gain an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted October 1, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 19 hours ago, hodge said: So you want him to move his arm from a natural position to an unnatural position to try avoiding the ball, but if it then still catches his arm its now in an unnatural position and will be given as a penalty, its tucked into his body, not sure where he's supposed to try and move it. Okay so daylight between all the body/upper body or what? if its all body then you'll get the discussion is a fraction of his boot still in line with the defender etc The whole body, limbs, hands, feet, whatever, clear daylight and it’s offside. What could be simpler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: The whole body, limbs, hands, feet, whatever, clear daylight and it’s offside. What could be simpler? As said, if there's the smallest part of a boot or hand in line or not and still gets flagged offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted October 1, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, hodge said: As said, if there's the smallest part of a boot or hand in line or not and still gets flagged offside The VAR technology should be able to distinguish clear daylight between players. What ever rule you had, there would still be linesman errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 It should be decided by the clubs not the Ref they should have two VAR's a match and its up to them how to use them then if they use them up its down to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Perfect demonstration of it for Palace's winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 VAR have been busy today. Huge controversy at the Spurs V Watford game where the big screen displayed No goal when VAR awarded the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 The whole thing is a total balls and should be done away with immediately. If it ever comes to the Championship I reckon that`s me done with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 alli equaliser (Handball) given & stonewall penalty not. Watford have good grounds for complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Kill it. Kill it with fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Thought I’d resurrect this thread given arguably the worst VAR decision given against Fulham for Newcastle tonight. Correct decision: yellow card for diving. actual decision: penalty and red card. what makes things worse is that the ref reviewed it pitch Side. Game has officially gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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