Bristol Rob Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 They are on one at the moment. Apparently 'female' pundits have no place in the modern game as they haven't played to the same standard, yet they are all quite happy to point out what Cockman is doing wrong tactically (they must all have played League One). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: They are on one at the moment. Apparently 'female' pundits have no place in the modern game as they haven't played to the same standard, yet they are all quite happy to point out what Cockman is doing wrong tactically (they must all have played League One). If there was ever a more shining example of #gaslogic I`ve yet to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, wood_red said: I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? Add Wenger and Graham Taylor to the list as well. Whilst some of us like complicated in depth analysis, a lot of arm chair fans don't care that much and a communicator who is able to provide clear insight is likely to be as valuable to them as someone who has played at a higher standard. Either way, Rovers are pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, wood_red said: I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? TBF David Gower is now Radio 4`s main sports correspondent so he may have wanted the move, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: TBF David Gower is now Radio 4`s main sports correspondent so he may have wanted the move, who knows? He said he hadn't had his contract renewed due to his face not fitting, he never wanted to leave: How did the beginning of the end of this phase of his life come about? 'It's that dreaded start to a sentence: 'We think you're doing a great job, but…' That, of course, leads to where we are now.' Can he say how the sentence finished? 'Not really. The gist of it is they want to move on and change style.' In what way? 'Have to ask them.' Essentially, Gower believes his face no longer fits, although he takes issue with the premise. 'I'm aware that our demographic for Sky cricket is kind of my demographic. Their research proves that. The main part of our watching public for Test matches is of a certain age and probably white males. So it's a shame I can't keep appealing to them and keep them happy.' Which brings us to the trend towards greater diversity in cricket broadcasting. 'It's an interesting one,' he says. 'In the same way as the men, people who come into the commentary box, some find it easier, some find it harder. They all work very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, wood_red said: I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? Closer to home, Gary Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: I would have loved to be there for that game. Although, according to most gas conspiracists, I was, like most of you too. We were all there...in spirit at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, wood_red said: He said he hadn't had his contract renewed due to his face not fitting, he never wanted to leave: His employers won't get away with that excuse now that he's on the radio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Loon plage said: I've got a mate like that but almost certain its not the aame person.... Me too, I would also say there's a fairly good chance it's not the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, wood_red said: I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, myol'man said: Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide It's not just Michelle; https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sky sports female presenters&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=sky sports female presenters&sc=8-28&sk=&cvid=F8BE861034C0435AB5CFFF25BEF10547 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, myol'man said: Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide In the interest of fairness, here is a picture or two to help you make up your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, 22A said: It's not just Michelle; https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sky sports female presenters&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=sky sports female presenters&sc=8-28&sk=&cvid=F8BE861034C0435AB5CFFF25BEF10547 I don’t care if presenters are male or female, but what sort of monster uses Bing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, myol'man said: Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags). But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, wood_red said: I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower? Sorry for the slightly off topic!! What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson?? As long as women are home in good time to cook the old man's tea and some light housework, I've no problem with them having an opinion about the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted September 10, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, wood_red said: I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags). But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her! It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless. I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, wood_red said: I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags). But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her! Personally I think the more we see of Alex Scott the better it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, 22A said: It's not just Michelle; https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sky sports female presenters&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=sky sports female presenters&sc=8-28&sk=&cvid=F8BE861034C0435AB5CFFF25BEF10547 Natalie Sawyer in that yellow dress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BS15_RED said: Natalie Sawyer in that yellow dress I’d prefer Natalie Sawyer minus the dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Or this commentator. Oh.My.Goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless. I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary, A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, myol'man said: Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide What? To wake up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 14 hours ago, 22A said: It's not just Michelle; https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sky sports female presenters&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=sky sports female presenters&sc=8-28&sk=&cvid=F8BE861034C0435AB5CFFF25BEF10547 I knew there was a reason why I’ve never cancelled my Sky subscription! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless. I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary, Sounds like the female version of John Motion then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicki's soulmate said: A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" Which of course is incorrect, as the ball would be out of play before it hit the side netting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Nicki's soulmate said: A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" I've heard many male commentators say things that are equally (or more) idiotic than that. It's a stupid thing for her to say (and she may in fact be an awful commentator) but it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, elhombrecito said: I've heard many male commentators say things that are equally (or more) idiotic than that. It's a stupid thing for her to say (and she may in fact be an awful commentator) but it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender! Yep, the male commentators are equally idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Nicki's soulmate said: A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" We’ve had top flight refs giving goals that’s gone 3 yards wide of the post, I can forgive the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Port Said Red said: In the interest of fairness, here is a picture or two to help you make up your mind. Is she just leaving Rudolph’s room at the Avon Gorge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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