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They are on one at the moment.

Apparently 'female' pundits have no place in the modern game as they haven't played to the same standard, yet they are all quite happy to point out what Cockman is doing wrong tactically (they must all have played League One).

 

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27 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

They are on one at the moment.

Apparently 'female' pundits have no place in the modern game as they haven't played to the same standard, yet they are all quite happy to point out what Cockman is doing wrong tactically (they must all have played League One).

 

If there was ever a more shining example of #gaslogic I`ve yet to hear it.

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I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

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1 minute ago, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

Add Wenger and Graham Taylor to the list as well.

Whilst some of us like complicated in depth analysis, a lot of arm chair fans don't care that much and a communicator who is able to provide clear insight is likely to be as valuable to them as someone who has played at a higher standard.

Either way, Rovers are pants.

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3 minutes ago, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

TBF David Gower is now Radio 4`s main sports correspondent so he may have wanted the move, who knows?

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3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

TBF David Gower is now Radio 4`s main sports correspondent so he may have wanted the move, who knows?

He said he hadn't had his contract renewed due to his face not fitting, he never wanted to leave:

 

How did the beginning of the end of this phase of his life come about?

'It's that dreaded start to a sentence: 'We think you're doing a great job, but…' That, of course, leads to where we are now.'

Can he say how the sentence finished? 'Not really. The gist of it is they want to move on and change style.'

In what way? 'Have to ask them.'

Essentially, Gower believes his face no longer fits, although he takes issue with the premise.

'I'm aware that our demographic for Sky cricket is kind of my demographic. Their research proves that. The main part of our watching public for Test matches is of a certain age and probably white males. So it's a shame I can't keep appealing to them and keep them happy.'

Which brings us to the trend towards greater diversity in cricket broadcasting.

'It's an interesting one,' he says. 'In the same way as the men, people who come into the commentary box, some find it easier, some find it harder. They all work very hard.

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14 minutes ago, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

Closer to home, Gary Johnson.

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50 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

I would have loved to be there for that game.

Although, according to most gas conspiracists, I was, like most of you too.

We were all there...in spirit at least.

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7 minutes ago, wood_red said:

He said he hadn't had his contract renewed due to his face not fitting, he never wanted to leave:

His employers won't get away with that excuse now that he's on the radio...

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9 hours ago, Loon plage said:

I've got a mate like that but almost certain its not the aame person....

 

Me too,  I would also say there's a fairly good chance it's not the same person.

 

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1 hour ago, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide 

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8 minutes ago, myol'man said:

Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide 

In the interest of fairness, here is a picture or two to help you make up your mind.

 

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42 minutes ago, myol'man said:

Michelle Owen or Hollowhead? you decide 

I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags).

But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her!

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4 hours ago, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

As long as women are home in good time to cook the old man's tea and some light housework, I've no problem with them having an opinion about the football 

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3 hours ago, wood_red said:

I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags).

But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her!

It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless.  I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary,

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4 hours ago, wood_red said:

I don't think anyone would disagree with that tbh. Michelle is very good and knowledgeable so not many will have a problem with her whatsoever (apart from a few sags).

But it seems to me the Producers of many programmes seem to think they have to have a quota of women as that is what everyone wants (whereas I don't think that is true). Step forward Alex Scott - is it possible for her to be on anything else at all? As soon as I see her on I either mute it or turn over. It is just overkill - although her or Hollowhead/Keith Andrews and I would choose her!

Personally I think the more we see of Alex Scott the better it is 😍😍😍

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10 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said:

It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless.  I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary,

A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" 

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11 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said:

It’s certainly noticeable how the quota has had to be made, some of the women are OK as commentators or pundits, but some of them, as with the men, are useless.  I spend a fair bit of time listening to the radio, not being one for sitting in front of the telly and I now have to turn off when Vicki Sparks Is commentating on R5, she over emphasises far too many words and phrases whilst commentating and gets to the point of being screechy, she doesn’t do this in normal conversation or interviews, so no idea why she does it in commentary,

Sounds like the female version of John Motion then.

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1 hour ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" 

Which of course is incorrect, as the ball would be out of play before it hit the side netting.

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3 hours ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" 

I've heard many male commentators say things that are equally (or more) idiotic than that.

It's a stupid thing for her to say (and she may in fact be an awful commentator) but it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender! 

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1 hour ago, elhombrecito said:

I've heard many male commentators say things that are equally (or more) idiotic than that.

It's a stupid thing for her to say (and she may in fact be an awful commentator) but it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender! 

Yep, the male commentators are equally idiotic

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4 hours ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

A few weeks back on the EFL show the female commentator gave a new slant on the old "denied by the post etc" rubbish, by informing us that a goal had been "denied by the side netting" 

We’ve had top flight refs giving goals that’s gone 3 yards wide of the post, I can forgive the above

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21 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

In the interest of fairness, here is a picture or two to help you make up your mind.

 

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Is she just leaving Rudolph’s room at the Avon Gorge ? 

 

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2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Is she just leaving Rudolph’s room at the Avon Gorge ? 

 

I thought she was on her way in, I think she might look a bit more dishevelled on the way out. :) 

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No issue with women being involved. Pundits etc.

But i dont like listening to a woman commentator. A womans voice just does not sound right - i have to turn the volume down.

I've got my tin hat on :laugh:

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On 10/09/2019 at 15:05, wood_red said:

I have no issue per se with women in Sport commentating or in the studio analysing, BUT it does seem to be now that they are being shoe horned into the role to make up some sort of number target. Gower has got the poke from the Cricket and I think a women is taking over from him as well, again I have no issue that a women is being on there but is she going to bring more to the table than table than Gower?

Sorry for the slightly off topic!!

What standard did Mourinho play at as I forget now........Brendan Rogers, Houllier, Hodgson??

I think the female pundits on Test Match Special on 5live are really good. 

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22 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

In the interest of fairness, here is a picture or two to help you make up your mind.

 

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She's not up to much without her makeup and her hair done.

As for Holloway, who told him he had the legs for a little black dress?

:) 

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56 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Is she just leaving Rudolph’s room at the Avon Gorge ? 

 

No, because there'd be a queue waiting in the corridor if it was Rudolph's room.

 

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1 hour ago, Riaz said:

No issue with women being involved. Pundits etc.

But i dont like listening to a woman commentator. A womans voice just does not sound right - i have to turn the volume down.

I've got my tin hat on :laugh:

I get this but - It's just what we are used to. The next generation will be used to it so it will be less of an issue to them.

To be honest 90% of pundits and commentators infuriate me. The England game last night for instance we had to listen to Hoddle express complete shock that Kosovo players could control a ball for 90 minutes. Whilst I understand a number of their team was made up of players plying their trade in second divisions across Europe.... Imagine a squad that has players employed by the likes of Manchester city, Lazio, Fenerbahce and Werder Bremen actually being able to pass a ball.

It's lazy and shows that the majority of former professional footballers don't offer any additional insight whatsoever.

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20 minutes ago, cider-manc said:

I get this but - It's just what we are used to. The next generation will be used to it so it will be less of an issue to them.

To be honest 90% of pundits and commentators infuriate me. The England game last night for instance we had to listen to Hoddle express complete shock that Kosovo players could control a ball for 90 minutes. Whilst I understand a number of their team was made up of players plying their trade in second divisions across Europe.... Imagine a squad that has players employed by the likes of Manchester city, Lazio, Fenerbahce and Werder Bremen actually being able to pass a ball.

It's lazy and shows that the majority of former professional footballers don't offer any additional insight whatsoever.

Yes I think we would all like a job where we spouted the bl**din obvious for two hours.

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1 hour ago, mozo said:

I think the female pundits on Test Match Special on 5live are really good. 

Ebony Rainford-Brent in particular is very good

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14 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Ebony Rainford-Brent in particular is very good

They all are. I`d rather listen to Alison Mitchell, Isa Guha and Ebs rather than, say, Michael Vaughan any day.

It can be a bit frosty when Sir Geoffrey`s in the box though, I don`t think he entirely approves!

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8 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:
  • When the male goalkeeper coach "move on" he is gratefully thanked on the official site. When the women goalkeeper coach move on he/she is not even mentioned by the politically correct Bristol Sport.    

Just wondering?  What is the equivelant of " Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" in Svenska?

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2 hours ago, Riaz said:

No issue with women being involved. Pundits etc.

But i dont like listening to a woman commentator. A womans voice just does not sound right - i have to turn the volume down.

I've got my tin hat on :laugh:

It depends on the voice. I can't stand Clive Tyldesley, I'm sure he's a lovely chap but his voice and the nonsense he spouts just really annoys me, the same with Andrew Castle on Wimbledon.

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Not football related but I heard Harriet Harman being interviewed on Sky news about her possibly being appointed as speaker of the house. The interviewer asked "why do you think you should get the job" Harman replied "because I'm a women" 

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Female pundits do not have any right to be there thats fact. They havent played at an even close standard to even a league 2 player in mens football. If they allow female pundits then your local tom dick or harry should also be able to be a pundit on these shows, but it never happens because tim dick or harry hast played aginst arsenal in front of 60,000.

Its pathetic they put women on as pundits now, without any experience of mens top pro football.

for those who have never seen a womans pro game, its semi pro(weston super mare) level and thats your top top top teams

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5 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said:

Female pundits do not have any right to be there thats fact. They havent played at an even close standard to even a league 2 player in mens football. If they allow female pundits then your local tom dick or harry should also be able to be a pundit on these shows, but it never happens because tim dick or harry hast played aginst arsenal in front of 60,000.

Its pathetic they put women on as pundits now, without any experience of mens top pro football.

for those who have never seen a womans pro game, its semi pro(weston super mare) level and thats your top top top teams

I would imagine any Downs League team would put double figures past which every  women's team are currently ranked No 1 in the world but that really isn't the point...women generally are not good at sports broadcasting because firstly, they think they have a point to prove and secondly, they don't know when to shut up.

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“It’s my game, I want to see only people like me playing and talking about it”

- most of britain

 

its 2019 FFS, the way these topics always degenerate never fails to appal me

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On 11/09/2019 at 15:33, Riaz said:

No issue with women being involved. Pundits etc.

But i dont like listening to a woman commentator. A womans voice just does not sound right - i have to turn the volume down.

I've got my tin hat on :laugh:

I kind of agree. I don't mind it, but it's the high pitch of the voice when a goal is scored... Or the attempt to try and lower the pitch of the voice when a goal is scored. It thoroughly annoys me

 

From the opposite direction.  in rugby commentary .. (I don't know the commentators name) but has a very low gravelly growly voice, it seems many rugby commentators are trying to copy it now... That annoys the hell out of me as well.

 

Maybe I should watch sport with the sound off!

 

That said never had a problem with women commentators in cricket, golf or tennis I just think it must be the excitement factor factor in Football when the voice goes all high pitched.  

 

In terms of commentating in general.  If you are clued up and commentate on the game instead of trying to make the commentating about you... That is enough. A lot of men commentators could do with thinking about that.

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