steveybadger Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, RedDave said: Exactly. Tommy Doherty smoked 20 a day and loved a beer. Can’t compare the two Loved the doc but suspect HNM will (already has) go a lot further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Makes you realise what a young team we have, Massengo, Brownhill,Palmer, Semenyo, Moore, Periera, Dasilva, Eliasson, O'Dowda all playing regular football and under the age of 24!! It’s crazy when you see how young they are. Bound to have a few off days but more exciting than a team of journeymen. Having said that, don’t they say that ‘you can’t win anything with kids’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Makes you realise what a young team we have, Massengo, Brownhill,Palmer, Semenyo, Moore, Periera, Dasilva, Eliasson, O'Dowda all playing regular football and under the age of 24!! Exactly. Quite a few still qualify for u-23 football. Exciting times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97Red Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 He plays like a seasoned pro, it's quite unbelievable. From todays game, quite late on when Stoke were looking for the equaliser. He held the ball in the corner, put his body in between two stoke men and won us a free kick! He's special for an 18 year old, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Yep very young. But with Nagy coming back and with Eliasson looking so good, Palmer must play better to keep his place. Would not be against Massengo attacking midfield with Nagy and Brownhill holding. Or even Eliasson floating in the free role, able to go to either flank. Of course Afobe would help Palmer too, but I love the options we have now. Really like Palmer, just hope he can perform well consistently to keep his place. Also still needs to get fitter. Was really struggling early in 2nd half against Boro. and yet in a game where there is a distinct lack of quality KP always has that pass in his locker to win a match. For me, he plays.. also I don't think he was much poorer than anyone today. They got the result against a 10 man, time-wasting side. Job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 This dude is on a different level - he's 18 ffs, and he's not even an absolute unit (a la Caulker etc.), so that tells you one thing...a totally class proposition!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think we can all see the potential in Han Noah. At 18, he doesn't quute have the physical strength yet for this league but that will come in time. I would like to see him being a bit more solid in his tackling. he has been thrown in at the deep end a bit it with Nagy being injured but he has certainly held his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, old_eastender said: All about opinions, personally in the games they have played Nagy and Massengo are to me consistently performing at a high level. For me Brownhill does that sometimes but equally sometimes has games where he seems to exert little influence. All academic as LJ won't drop Brownhill anyway! So on your basis, you drop Palmer, not Brownhill..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I think we can all see the potential in Han Noah. At 18, he doesn't quute have the physical strength yet for this league but that will come in time. I would like to see him being a bit more solid in his tackling. he has been thrown in at the deep end a bit it with Nagy being injured but he has certainly held his own. Agree with most of that but saying he doesn't have the strength yet you would like him to be more physical in tackling seems like an oxymoron to me. I personally dont think strong tackles will be his game even after he 'fills out'. Hes far too clever a footballer for that. I think Nagy's injury has forced LJ's hand to a certain degree to play HNM and there is no doubting his quality but he is still a kid. You can't play an 18 year old every game in the Championship without fear of burning him out. Especially one who is still sleight of frame. I've kind of suspected that the plan is for him to replace Brownhill next season after we've sold Josh for £millions to a another team. Yeah, JB is quality and will get better no doubt, but HNM has a higher potential. It's always been part of our ethos. The more money we make from player sales, the more we can spend on young players, who, if we train them properly, we can sell for higher fees, and we can then spend more money on young players with higher potential and we go again.....and on and on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Naggy and Messengo the best two midfielders weve had in years now some knob wants to leave out the young un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: and yet in a game where there is a distinct lack of quality KP always has that pass in his locker to win a match. For me, he plays.. also I don't think he was much poorer than anyone today. They got the result against a 10 man, time-wasting side. Job done I'd play him too. Just think his place in the side is under threat with such quality competition in midfield. So he has to play well consistently to keep his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 hours ago, City Cat said: My biggest concern is that he'll get cropped by a seasoned cynical pro... Warnock style. Was having this discussion with a Boro fan after our last home game who agreed..... let's hope not Some irony from your Boro mate there I think, seem to remember Adam Clayton doing his best to crop Han atleast twice v them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 hours ago, RobintheRed Red said: Naggy and Messengo the best two midfielders weve had in years now some knob wants to leave out the young un. Think the point being made was that he’s only 18 and don’t want him to burn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: oh, those.. he did and all gotta love Tommy Remember the time when Tins was in charge, got subbed at HT and was in the Tobacco Factory Bar before I’d got back from the FT whistle. Classic TD. Where is he these days ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Didn’t think he added much today but obviously looks a real talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, TomF said: Remember the time when Tins was in charge, got subbed at HT and was in the Tobacco Factory Bar before I’d got back from the FT whistle. Classic TD. Where is he these days ? I think he`s into property renovation or something similar nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 hours ago, RED4LIFE said: Agree with most of that but saying he doesn't have the strength yet you would like him to be more physical in tackling seems like an oxymoron to me. I personally dont think strong tackles will be his game even after he 'fills out'. Hes far too clever a footballer for that. I think Nagy's injury has forced LJ's hand to a certain degree to play HNM and there is no doubting his quality but he is still a kid. You can't play an 18 year old every game in the Championship without fear of burning him out. Especially one who is still sleight of frame. I've kind of suspected that the plan is for him to replace Brownhill next season after we've sold Josh for £millions to a another team. Yeah, JB is quality and will get better no doubt, but HNM has a higher potential. It's always been part of our ethos. The more money we make from player sales, the more we can spend on young players, who, if we train them properly, we can sell for higher fees, and we can then spend more money on young players with higher potential and we go again.....and on and on...... Yeah it's a strategy learnt from Leicester and Southampton and will hopefully be equally successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinreliant Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 So looking forward to the Swansea game and watching all the new guys in the team. Not been able to get down to the Gate due to a long drawn out illness . Will be in the Heineken lounge with the prawn sandwich brigade as a treat for me and my two boys. Massengo, Nagy, Williams all look an upgrade to the team can't wait. Shame Kalas got unjured. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, robinreliant said: So looking forward to the Swansea game and watching all the new guys in the team. Not been able to get down to the Gate due to a long drawn out illness . Will be in the Heineken lounge with the prawn sandwich brigade as a treat for me and my two boys. Massengo, Nagy, Williams all look an upgrade to the team can't wait. Shame Kalas got unjured. COYR. Yes re kalas, and Dasilva too.. how lj is still managing to grind out results like this, with 2 fit midfielders, a journeyman in at left back and half a first 11 out injured is frankly a miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah it's a strategy learnt from Leicester and Southampton and will hopefully be equally successful I agree some want messengo and nagy to play like pack or marvin elliot with crunching tackles . That is not the style of play we are going for and generally modern football is moving away from . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 hours ago, BCFC Grim said: Actually thought he got bullied today ( not a massive surprise). If you watch closely he struggles to read the play when it comes to covering ground defensively also. Not a criticism as he is so young but I do feel we have the tendency to build players up too quickly which will only bring more pressure. Made an absolutely cracking pass in the first half that should have been tucked away. Nagy will come straight back in I'd imagine. Absolutely right. Stoke's mids were noticeably larger than him and to start with he did struggle to the point I wondered if he needed people around him to make him space to move. He did get more physical later on, to his credit, but I get the feeling he needs to put a little more beef on as he is still develloping physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 12 hours ago, JonDolman said: Yep very young. But with Nagy coming back and with Eliasson looking so good, Palmer must play better to keep his place. Would not be against Massengo attacking midfield with Nagy and Brownhill holding. Or even Eliasson floating in the free role, able to go to either flank. Of course Afobe would help Palmer too, but I love the options we have now. Really like Palmer, just hope he can perform well consistently to keep his place. Also still needs to get fitter. Was really struggling early in 2nd half against Boro. That was the key yesterday. Very little in the way of spins off the shoulder. The Stoke defenders knew every time we looked for Fam they could go tight physically or try to anticipate. We lost a fair bit of possession playing into Fam yesterday. Palmer missed Afobe’s runs yesterday which also create space for everyone else too. In fairness to Palmer there were some lovely passes yesterday. 11 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: and yet in a game where there is a distinct lack of quality KP always has that pass in his locker to win a match. For me, he plays.. also I don't think he was much poorer than anyone today. They got the result against a 10 man, time-wasting side. Job done Definitely not poorer, just missing the highlight reel moments yesterday. The rest of his game was fine, much like several others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Testimitanu Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 His ability to shield the ball and win us free kicks in decent areas is something very useful indeed. The way he uses his body makes you have to jockey him or commit a foul/accurate tackle. Extremely intelligent for 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 hours ago, BCFC11 said: Think the point being made was that he’s only 18 and don’t want him to burn out. Hes fine played in champions league full of energy il tell you what we would miss him if he wasnt there.someone at the match said ninety mins gone on clock still working his socks off rest him when we got a commanding lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, sephjnr said: Absolutely right. Stoke's mids were noticeably larger than him and to start with he did struggle to the point I wondered if he needed people around him to make him space to move. He did get more physical later on, to his credit, but I get the feeling he needs to put a little more beef on as he is still develloping physically. Most teams' midfields will be noticeably larger than him. Whether they will be better than him is a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Thought he was a yard off it defensively yesterday as the 50/50s were going in but second half he was much better when we had to retain the ball and cleverly won some free kicks late on. The ball to Semenyo in the first half was superb too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinreliant Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Simon bristol said: Yes re kalas, and Dasilva too.. how lj is still managing to grind out results like this, with 2 fit midfielders, a journeyman in at left back and half a first 11 out injured is frankly a miracle Yes DaSilva too. When Flinty went I was starting to panic but I can say that we are stronger at the back now and can only get better. Anyway the team has changed hell of a lot in the last two/three years and I've got a lot of catching up to do. What a game to come back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaning To One Side Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 I have to say I'm massively impressed with his first touch, gives himself so many options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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