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JonDolman

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7 goals so far and superb hat trick yesterday. Never had any doubt he'd be a top top player.

Surprised quite a number of our fans have said he won't make it at that kind of level.

The kid has everything. At only 21 I can't imagine how good he can become. Should be in next England squad.

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43 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

7 goals so far and superb hat trick yesterday. Never had any doubt he'd be a top top player.

Surprised quite a number of our fans have said he won't make it at that kind of level.

The kid has everything. At only 21 I can't imagine how good he can become. Should be in next England squad.

Most pundits wrote him off before he had played a game for Chelsea and insisted they should play that prolific scorer Giroud.

Since the Championship is a foreign country to most of them they probably only saw him play for a poor, defensive Swansea side in the PL mind you.

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the 3rd goal in particular was great, and if that's something he has been working on would open up a new dimension to his game.

With us he was a poacher, every goal seemed to just get over the line, but to out muscle Coady, stand him up, flick the ball to the side and finish in the far corner was great.

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17 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Most pundits wrote him off before he had played a game for Chelsea and insisted they should play that prolific scorer Giroud.

Since the Championship is a foreign country to most of them they probably only saw him play for a poor, defensive Swansea side in the PL mind you.

I didn't really hear it from pundits to be honest. But many on here saying he won't make it at prem level after one game against Man U. Some even saying we may get him back on loan!?

The Tammy 2 years ago at Swansea wasn't really ready for prem. But like many young players, especially young players as committed to improving as Tammy, they do improve. The natural ability has always been so clear to see imo.

He has made massive improvements and still so young at 21 for what is a 6 foot 3 lone striker. Imagine in a few years time when he is so much stronger. Could well become world class.

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Fair play to Lampard giving the English youngsters a chance (and them taking it). I know his hands have been tied because of the transfer issue, but hopefully he sticks with them. 

More PL teams should be doing more of the same.

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I heard our old player Gary O’Neill,  Only yesterday question if Tammy had a good enough all round game to play at the top in the Premier. Fair question to ask imo, but if he is in a team who creates chances, he will score, I have no doubt about that. Great to see him doing so well. COYR 

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Very pleased for him doing it at the highest level and silencing his critics, including his own fans.

Joint top scorer in the Prem with Aguero and the youngest ever player for Chelsea to score a hat trick. 

We were lucky to have him when we did and enjoy a huge young talent.

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He's class. Fairly obvious he would go on a be a reasonable Prem player - how much better than that I'm not sure.

Problem he has with England is he will be behind Kane, Rashford, Sancho and Sterling. Might get in above Callum Wilson...

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I obviously loved him at City, but really doubted that he had enough to his game to do it at the highest level. 

Fair play to him for shoving those suggestions right up my arse..! Incredible start to the season for him. 

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1 hour ago, Alex_BCFC said:

He's class. Fairly obvious he would go on a be a reasonable Prem player - how much better than that I'm not sure.

Problem he has with England is he will be behind Kane, Rashford, Sancho and Sterling. Might get in above Callum Wilson...

Yeah I am thinking ahead of Wilson.

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Delighted for him. 3rd goal was a great finish, 2nd goal was a very cute pull on Connor Coady, allowing him to get ahead of the wolves man. 

Seems unreal that he’s still so young which makes his performances for us even more special.

Good on you Tammy.

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5 hours ago, JonDolman said:

7 goals so far and superb hat trick yesterday. Never had any doubt he'd be a top top player.

Surprised quite a number of our fans have said he won't make it at that kind of level.

The kid has everything. At only 21 I can't imagine how good he can become. Should be in next England squad.

It was very clear he was going right to the top level of the game after his 1st game for us. 

Swansea was a bad move for him as they way they set up didn't suit him.

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41 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Really very happy for him.

Had a few doubts on his all round game but he's tearing it up so far. Frightening to think he's only 21!

What was it yesterday, 3 shots on target 3 goals?? Can't get better.

Of course you can. According to the official result, he had three shots on target...and scored four...

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2 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Yeah I am thinking ahead of Wilson.

If he plays all season for Chelsea he can push Rashford for Kane's understudy, all he lacks is experience in the Prem really.

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Really thought he would flop in the Prem, but he's absolutely smashing it! Go on Tammy

29 minutes ago, Nibor said:

If he plays all season for Chelsea he can push Rashford for Kane's understudy, all he lacks is experience in the Prem really.

He only needs 3 more goals to equal Rashfords best ever season. 

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32 minutes ago, Nibor said:

If he plays all season for Chelsea he can push Rashford for Kane's understudy, all he lacks is experience in the Prem really.

Especially as Rashford is no centre forward and prefers to play on the left of a front three.

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On 15/09/2019 at 14:19, Alex_BCFC said:

He's class. Fairly obvious he would go on a be a reasonable Prem player - how much better than that I'm not sure.

Problem he has with England is he will be behind Kane, Rashford, Sancho and Sterling. Might get in above Callum Wilson...

In terms of striker should he keep the form going he should be only behind Harry Kane, one of England's 2 world class players. 

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15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Called up to England squad.

This will be the point when he'll forget he played for us!

Pretty sure Lambert 'forgot' he played for the blue few when he got capped.

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32 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

This will be the point when he'll forget he played for us!

Pretty sure Lambert 'forgot' he played for the blue few when he got capped.

Can you blame him for wanting to forget that part of his life?! 😄

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54 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

This will be the point when he'll forget he played for us!

Pretty sure Lambert 'forgot' he played for the blue few when he got capped.

Don't understand the logic. Are you comparing us to the blue few?

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1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

This will be the point when he'll forget he played for us!

Pretty sure Lambert 'forgot' he played for the blue few when he got capped.

He's always been a Chelsea player and his form in the Premier league is what has earned him what is after all, a recall to the England squad.

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On 16/09/2019 at 14:44, TonyTonyTony said:

Happy for him - always like him. Seems like a good bloke as well - not Mr Flash. World at his feet now - I hope Chelsea make him their number one even when their transfer ban is lifted

Think Kepa has got the No 1 spot sorted

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On 15/09/2019 at 11:05, JonDolman said:

 

Surprised quite a number of our fans have said he won't make it at that kind of level.

 

Didn't surprise me. He was a young kid when he was here, but was still able to set alight a very competitive and physical division.

I had no doubts he'd grow into an elite level player.

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1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

Didn't surprise me. He was a young kid when he was here, but was still able to set alight a very competitive and physical division.

I had no doubts he'd grow into an elite level player.

Nor me.

Loved watching him when he was with us.

His movement and instinct were exceptional, hence the number of goals he scored.

Really hope that he does play next week so that he is then committed to England.

Read on the BBC today that he still is considering representing Nigeria, maybe this call up finishes that option.

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6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Didn't surprise me. He was a young kid when he was here, but was still able to set alight a very competitive and physical division.

I had no doubts he'd grow into an elite level player.

Yep agree. Don't know why so many thought he wouldn't make it just after one bad loan to Swansea at such a young age.

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Good piece on him actually.

Unfortunately, it's behind a paywall, premium and I don't subscribe- but this might work.

Swansea loan may have even been useful for him in some ways- will bold the bits related to City and the bits related to the claims that the Swansea loans may have.

Had doubts over him in terms of his all-round game a while ago but he seems to have kicked on from that. Apologies, the fonts etc seem to be all over the place! Scary to think he's still only 21 too.

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Determination, patience and sliding doors: The story of Tammy Abraham's Chelsea rise, 10 years in the making

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Abraham has been a story more than 10 years in the making for Chelsea Abraham has been a story more than 10 years in the making for Chelsea CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
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There is a photograph that has circulated around social media after each of Tammy Abraham’s goals this season. His exact age is not known, but it shows him as a youngster in full Chelsea kit, stood in the car park of the club’s training ground to the left of Roman Abramovich.

Billionaire owner Abramovich was also in the Stamford Bridge stands on the night, in 2015, when Abraham scored one of the goals to help the Blues to a 2-1 FA Youth Cup final success over Manchester City.

So Abramovich will know only too well that Abraham has been more than 10 years in the making for Chelsea and that his is a story of determination, patience and sliding doors.

The Russian might even have heard the tales of the youngster who used to used to sulk his way through physical drills before lighting up when the balls came out and played on the right wing to improve his footwork as he strived to impress his mentor Didier Drogba.

A Fifa transfer ban, together with the appointment of head coach Frank Lampard, will be recorded by many as the catalyst for Abraham getting his big break at Chelsea.

A young Abraham (right), pictured with Roman Abramovich during the early years of the Chelsea owner's reign
A young Abraham (right), pictured with Roman Abramovich during the early years of the Chelsea owner's reign CREDIT: TWITTER
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But there were three sliding doors moments before this particular summer that were crucial to where Abraham finds himself now - preparing for Chelsea’s clash against Liverpool as the Premier League’s top goalscorer alongside Sergio Aguero.

 

First, in 2016, Chelsea turned down the chance to sign a Brazilian youngster who was being tipped for big things by the name of Gabriel Barbosa. At that time, Abraham had not started a first-team game at any level and yet the Blues did not want to potentially block his future development.

He was sent on loan to Championship club Bristol City, where he made an incredible start by scoring 11 goals in his first 14 games and finishing the season with 26 in total. In doing so, Abraham became the first player in the club’s history to win the Player of the Year, Young Player of the Year and top goalscorer awards in the same campaign.

“The thing that stood out for me was his unbelievable ability to find space in the box when there was none,” said Bristol City head coach Lee Johnson. “Whether that was one of his big long toes that would pop out and poke it in, or whether he's using the air space to direct a header. Even in training, everybody was moving away from the goal as he was moving towards it.

“We went on a bad run, but he stayed consistent and I felt as a manager that he fought for me. An 18-year-old kid, does he really care whether Lee Johnson is the manager? He did. That was a sign of his maturity, but also his moral compass.”

 

The was another sliding doors moment to come the following year, as Premier League and European clubs queued up to try to take Abraham on loan.

Abraham made an instant impact in senior football, scoring 11 goals in his first 14 games on loan at Bristol City in 2016
Abraham made an instant impact in senior football, scoring 11 goals in his first 14 games on loan at Bristol City in 2016 CREDIT: PA

Another Brazilian, this time by the name of Richarlison, was offered to Chelsea but again the club said no because they feared they could lose their Academy product for good if they signed a young foreign import.

Richarlison instead joined Watford and, initially, Chelsea’s decision looked like it might have been an error of judgement by former technical director Michael Emenalo, as the forward made a big enough impression during a season with the Hornets to earn a move worth £50million to Everton.

Abraham had been loaned out to Swansea City for Premier League experience and again started strongly with five goals in 10 games, but things got tougher as the Welsh club got sucked into a relegation battle.

He only netted three more goals for the club, but Swansea sporting director Leon Britton, who was a team-mate of Abraham in Wales, was instantly reminded of one of the Premier League’s most prolific strikers.

“I was Lilleshall with Jermain Defoe and we spent time together at West Ham as young players, too,” said Britton. “It’s clear that Tammy is quite different to Jermain in terms of his height and profile, but he really reminded of him because of his hunger to score goals. Just like Jermain, he was so driven in terms of wanting to score goals in every training session and every game he played.

 

“We were fighting relegation and it was probably the first time he wasn’t getting loads of chances. He had to work a bit more on his game in terms of holding the ball up. I think he’s learned from it, even though it didn’t quite work like he wanted to. Long-term, he’s benefited from it.”

Perhaps unfairly, Abraham faced doubts over his Premier League pedigree for the first time in the summer of 2018 and he eventually made a transfer deadline day loan move to Aston Villa after top-flight clubs, including Cardiff City, had been told he was not available.

Abraham proved himself in the Championship once more, helping Villa back to the top flight last season
Abraham proved himself in the Championship once more, helping Villa back to the top flight last season CREDIT: ACTION PLUS

Rather thinking he was too good for another season in the Championship, Abraham used the opportunity as another chance to prove himself and by January of this year he had scored 14 times, including a four-goal performance against Nottingham Forest.

That’s when the next sliding doors moment arrived, as Wolverhampton Wanderers expressed an interest in signing Abraham on loan or permanently.

Chelsea were in favour of another loan as the move would have given Abraham more top-flight experience. But there was also a concern that convincing him to leave behind Wolves, who were performing well and eventually qualified for Europe, might prove difficult.

 

That worry, together with uncertainty over whether or not an appearance for Chelsea’s Under-23s would scupper a second loan, eventually led to Abraham staying at Villa and becoming the first striker to hit 20 League goals or more for the club since Peter Withe as he fired the Midlanders to promotion via the play-offs.

Steve Bruce, who signed Abraham on loan for Villa, said: “He had a difficult time at Swansea, but came to Aston Villa and almost single handedly got them promoted. I wouldn’t be surprised by anything he does in his career.

“He has got a little of the lot, he can run, he’s a good athlete, but he has this insatiable appetite for goals and he has the knack of finding space in the box. He’s a good lad too. He was willing to go out on loan and learn, and that’s a good sign.”

Abraham has raced ahead of Olivier Giroud to become Chelsea's first-choice centre forward
Abraham has raced ahead of Olivier Giroud to become Chelsea's first-choice centre forward CREDIT: OFFSIDE

Abraham was preparing for the Under-21 European Championships with England when he heard former head coach Maurizio Sarri had left Chelsea. Until then, his future was unclear, but the Blues WhatsApp groups started to buzz with excited chatter of Lampard’s possible return with Jody Morris.

The fact Joe Edwards was also promoted to be part of Lampard’s first-team coaching staff was another boost to Abraham, as the pair had won two successive FA Youth Cups together in 2015, in front of Abramovich, and 2016.

 

“I had Tammy when he was in the Under-8 group so he would have been seven or eight years old,” said Edwards. “I noticed him straight away because, even then, he was nearly as tall as me!

“At that age, we used to build the session up with some basic physical drills to develop their agility and coordination, and it was very apparent, very early that Tammy wasn’t very interested in that sort of stuff. He could come across quite sulky, not interested. But when you got the balls out and got the skills session going or come game time, he just completely lit up and loved it. He had so much enthusiasm to get on the ball and his determination to win was evident even from that age.

“For the height, for the physical presence he had as a young kid, he probably did need to tighten up his footwork. When he went through a growth spurt at 12 or 13 years old, he probably didn’t look as comfortable with the ball at his feet as he had at a younger age.

“So I think it helped his overall game that we played him in multiple positions. Particularly in the 15 to 18 age groups, he played as a winger on the right side quite a number of times.”

Drogba was at his peak when Abraham started out at Chelsea and by the time the Ivorian returned for a second spell, the youngster was receiving invites to train with Jose Mourinho’s first-team squad.

 

“When we wanted to improve the way he held up the ball and used his presence against defenders, Didier would be one we could use to compare and motivate him with,” said Edwards.

“Didier was a big icon for him and when he did get opportunities to go over and train with the first team, it would have been in Didier’s second spell at the club and I know that Didier helped him a lot.”

On the difference between Abraham the Academy striker and the 21-year-old who is troubling Premier League defences, Edwards added: “Tammy has kicked on technically, certainly in terms of how he receives the ball, his awareness around him when he’s got to link play up. And the intelligence and the purpose behind his movement. Now I see a lot more thought behind where he’s going and when he’s going there.”

Abraham looks to be heading for the top now the sliding doors have become an open door for him at Chelsea.

 

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13 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Yep agree. Don't know why so many thought he wouldn't make it just after one bad loan to Swansea at such a young age.

Probably the same ones who are writing Semenyo off based on about 3 games.

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