kiwicolin Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thought he played well today. Big step up for him but he ran his socks off to. More exciting things to come from him this season and next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenRobin Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, kiwicolin said: Thought he played well today. Big step up for him but he ran his socks off to. More exciting things to come from him this season and next. dunno. Bit average to me. Maybe got stuff to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just played it safe- no fireworks no dramas for me, didn’t see anything that said he should be picked ahead of KP45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Honestly thought the game totally passed him by, he worked hard but can't think of anything he did for us attacking wise, think he will need a run of games to get used to the pace of the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I thought he was very poor and didn’t get involved. KP should start ahead of him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 He was played out of position wasn’t he ? Jurys out for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Good first game at this level but still plenty to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: I thought he was very poor and didn’t get involved. KP should start ahead of him every week. I think KP is sub because he is carrying a knock otherwise he would be playing ahead of Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Very harsh to throw him in for his debut in a totally unfamiliar position. Clearly not a striker but did ok when back in his true CM AM role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Is he any better than Paterson though ? Maybe would have preferred Pato to stay, and I'm far from his biggest fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 The bloke started his first game playing out of position. Why who knows. Ask LJ. BUT to give him grief is bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I promise you that if there was anyone more thrilled or excited to make his debut , or to do well here , I’d be amazed For that reason alone I desperately hope he succeeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Is he any better than Paterson though ? Maybe would have preferred Pato to stay, and I'm far from his biggest fan. Completely agree with this - Pato would have played today. I know we think we signed him because we couldn't get Palmer (and presumably couldn't afford to refuse to offload Pato's wages) but I can't help thinking we would have been much sharper in attic with Pato today? Sammy was OK, did nothing wrong but really added very little creativity - 2 shots on target all game (one a free kick) and don't remember much from him (unfortunately). He's not that young can we afford to give him game time to adapt - ahead of perhaps Semenyo or even Eliasson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I thought it generally passed him by. Worked hard, but not really involved. Thing is, he’s just jumped two levels. He’s playing against million pound plus players today who have been at the top level of the game. Last year he was playing against Yeovil. He should learn from today. And he’s the very epitome of a player who actually even spending time in training around the squad should kick him on. He needs a fair bit of that before he’s really ready for this level. Tried, worked, didn’t impact. But hopefully learnt a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I thought it generally passed him by. Worked hard, but not really involved. Thing is, he’s just jumped two levels. He’s playing against million pound plus players today who have been at the top level of the game. Last year he was playing against Yeovil. He should learn from today. And he’s the very epitome of a player who actually even spending time in training around the squad should kick him on. He needs a fair bit of that before he’s really ready for this level. Tried, worked, didn’t impact. But hopefully learnt a lot You've just said virtually everything I was going to say, SD. He did little wrong, but didn't really make his mark on the game and it was an easy sub to make when we wanted to bring Palmer on. It might take at least a season for him to develop into the player we want. Whether he'll get such time remains to be seen. A loan to a decent L1 side might have been a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Very harsh to read much into a game so early in his career. Needs 10 games really before we'll know what he's about. Always surprises me that football fans seem so keen to make negative judgements on players so quickly when they first join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Completely agree with this - Pato would have played today. I know we think we signed him because we couldn't get Palmer (and presumably couldn't afford to refuse to offload Pato's wages) but I can't help thinking we would have been much sharper in attic with Pato today? Sammy was OK, did nothing wrong but really added very little creativity - 2 shots on target all game (one a free kick) and don't remember much from him (unfortunately). He's not that young can we afford to give him game time to adapt - ahead of perhaps Semenyo or even Eliasson? Its all odd,pato can’t get in a average derby side while we are trying out sammie in a position that he has barely played and not at all in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: You've just said virtually everything I was going to say, SD. He did little wrong, but didn't really make his mark on the game and it was an easy sub to make when we wanted to bring Palmer on. It might take at least a season for him to develop into the player we want. Whether he'll get such time remains to be seen. A loan to a decent L1 side might have been a better option. Initially I’d agree RR but a point the very intelligent Tommy Rowe explained in his interview with Geoff Twentyman a couple of weeks back I found interesting and food for thought regarding loans or keep in squad GT asked him at what point , if he had yet , did he feel comfortable playing Championship football Rowe explained it was the actual training was the hurdle to conquer in its intensity and with and against Championship quality players He said rising to that challenge was the bigger challenge as opposed to then actually playing once you feel comfortable Anon training pitch Coming from such a sensible and intelligent pro (The whole interview was excellent and interesting for those who havnt heard it) I found it both interesting, and thought provoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hard to ask much of him after being thrown in against one of the best sides in the league after 0 league minutes so far this season. Bizarre choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Initially I’d agree RR but a point the very intelligent Tommy Rowe explained in his interview with Geoff Twentyman a couple of weeks back I found interesting and food for thought regarding loans or keep in squad GT asked him at what point , if he had yet , did he feel comfortable playing Championship football Rowe explained it was the actual training was the hurdle to conquer in its intensity and with and against Championship quality players He said rising to that challenge was the bigger challenge as opposed to then actually playing once you feel comfortable Anon training pitch Coming from such a sensible and intelligent pro (The whole interview was excellent and interesting for those who havnt heard it) I found it both interesting, and thought provoking There’s a bit of proof here in Joe Morrell. It probably hugely benefitted him being around the squad last year as opposed to another loan, which means this year he’s ready to perform strongly in L1. We may see similar from Bakinson next year. It depends where the management see development as best. Is there any benefit in Sammie being the best player in a L1 side immediately - or is he better off being one of the weaker players in a championship squad and learning? Everyone in this case is different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thought he had some nice touches but was not involved enough. Pressed well. I don't see how that's a really bad performance. I would have swapped him and O'Dowda, as Sammie looked a bit too lightweight up top. I think O'Dowda could have used his body better against the big pair they have in defence. And O'Dowda got more pace in behind too. I know it's not O'Dowda's position, but I feel that could have worked better than Sammie right up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: There’s a bit of proof here in Joe Morrell. It probably hugely benefitted him being around the squad last year as opposed to another loan, which means this year he’s ready to perform strongly in L1. We may see similar from Bakinson next year. It depends where the management see development as best. Is there any benefit in Sammie being the best player in a L1 side immediately - or is he better off being one of the weaker players in a championship squad and learning? Everyone in this case is different Good point re Joe Id keep SS here Silvio One of the reasons I went down to the U23 game , was I wanted to see him live and be able to watch him , and some others as opposed to the game generally My initial impression then was that he’s slight , has some excellent skills , back heels and flicks and absolute bursts with enthusiasm and willingness to work He showed some real hot touches of ability but I thought he looked a little headless and lost at times and actually ran and charged around too much I thought it was a tough game to come into and I felt for him when he ended up trying to play a tough role on rhs of midfield which certainly is not his game I would guess that he could do with training at this level with some individual work and guidance on movement, positioning and his best role - he’s certainly got the exciting individual skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Quality player, watched a fair bit of him before he came here. He’ll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 More to come from him. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Early doors for him - didn’t look up to much today but I expect him to offer more as season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Good point re Joe Id keep SS here Silvio One of the reasons I went down to the U23 game , was I wanted to see him live and be able to watch him , and some others as opposed to the game generally My initial impression then was that he’s slight , has some excellent skills , back heels and flicks and absolute bursts with enthusiasm and willingness to work He showed some real hot touches of ability but I thought he looked a little headless and lost at times and actually ran and charged around too much I thought it was a tough game to come into and I felt for him when he ended up trying to play a tough role on rhs of midfield which certainly is not his game I would guess that he could do with training at this level with some individual work and guidance on movement, positioning and his best role - he’s certainly got the exciting individual skills I’d probably agree Bob. What I got out of today from him (bizarrely) is that I think he needs to almost temper his enthusiasm to make the most of the strong suits you highlight. Example - after about half an hour, Weimann was moving through on the edge of the box, Sammie came through on his left hand side and for me got too close to Andi - not enough to break his run, but enough to be in eyeline and make AW consider it he should play a ball without Sammie having ever been in a position to get it The run was made with real enthusiasm but totally wrong. May have got away with it at L2 but not at this level. That will be learnt through training - so I’d agree, I’d keep SS here as I think he’ll learn quicker than in L1 when that run may get a better result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, kiwicolin said: Thought he played well today. Big step up for him but he ran his socks off to. More exciting things to come from him this season and next. Not as good as Beauden Barrett, Col. Like to see Lansdown pull his finger out and splash the cash on the boy Barrett in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Put in with emphasis to press their defence with Weimann to nullify their playing out from the back. Was fairly effective in this manner, but it largely removed any goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Was disappointed with him today. Needs more game time and perhaps a different position but not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I thought he did well today, I was quite sad to see him go off if I’m honest. I thought he looked up for it and showed lots of energy. Reading most of the above posts it seems I am out on my own a bit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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