maxjak Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I see that the Swansea manager intends to appeal the Bidwell sending off, as he feels it was a yellow, and only a sliding tackle? Must admit thatI have never seen a sliding tackle performed 2 inches above the ground, so that is quite unusual? I seem to remember the Stoke manager stating that he also intended to appeal Allens assault last week, but funnily enough he changed his mind under advisement. I seem to feel that Cooperman might have a change of mind after rewatching the video and reading the referees report? He also felt that Swansea played like the home team, and should have won?.........what a gracious fellow? Though some also might say, delusional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 It doesn’t have to be high anymore to be a red. It was reckless and out of control and the rules have terminology similar to that when talking about what is a red card offence. Some refs take that seriously and others do not Personally at that time of the game and what was I think a fair match meaning there weren’t many bad challenges and never looked dirty from either side, I think I would have given him a yellow. That said, think there is enough in it to not be overturned. Not sure what he is complaining about tbh. He is within his rights to think it was a yellow but I’d be amazed if they overturned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 He should be having a look at his own team with all their rolling around, trying to get our players booked and sent off after any sort of tackle. Ayew spent more game on the floor than actually trying to play football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 As cynical and frustrating as it was, I thought it was a yellow but chuffed he got a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 Falls into the serious foul category AFAIC. Bidwell was completely out-of-control as he slid in at speed and Eliasson could've been badly injured had it fully connected. Perhaps Cooper should be happy that Ayew and Byers didn't receive caution for simulation after both tried to feign head injuries to make innocuous fouls seem more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 It’s a yellow but probably won’t get overturned as they don’t like to do that much these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 It was a professional foul, or attempt at it, ball knock well past him before he lunges, and his foot was raised. Red for me. Just seen another angle of TM in the first half, could have gone too, got a yellow because of the Refs angle I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 From my view in ss 25 it didn’t look any worse than Taylor Moore’s and at the time I thought TM was lucky not to go, haven’t seen either incidents back since so could be totally wrong on both though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'm guessing it will get overturned and Elliason will get a two match ban for unsportsmanlike behaviour. It wasn't unsportsmanlike behaviour but I am aware that the powers that be view these incidents through very strange spectacles designed to show opponents of Bristol City in the best possible light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I don’t think he was out of control; he actually had time to deliberately lift his foot to trip Eliasson. So cynical yes, dangerous no. Hence yellow in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Falls into the serious foul category AFAIC. Bidwell was completely out-of-control as he slid in at speed and Eliasson could've been badly injured had it fully connected. Perhaps Cooper should be happy that Ayew and Byers didn't receive caution for simulation after both tried to feign head injuries to make innocuous fouls seem more serious. It was definitely not as bad as Allen’s last week..... 1 minute ago, steveybadger said: I don’t think he was out of control; he actually had time to deliberately lift his foot to trip Eliasson. So cynical yes, dangerous no. Hence yellow in my book. ....but I wonder whether the lift up contributed to the red. Probably by letter of law a red card....but I suppose we see worse unpunished. I thought the ref was anomalously good yesterday...,perhaps that’s because he blended in with a Swans kit. Perhaps with a name like Harrington, he should’ve worn black with a red tartan trim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, maxjak said: I see that the Swansea manager intends to appeal the Bidwell sending off, as he feels it was a yellow, and only a sliding tackle? Must admit thatI have never seen a sliding tackle performed 2 inches above the ground, so that is quite unusual? I seem to remember the Stoke manager stating that he also intended to appeal Allens assault last week, but funnily enough he changed his mind under advisement. I seem to feel that Cooperman might have a change of mind after rewatching the video and reading the referees report? He also felt that Swansea played like the home team, and should have won?.........what a gracious fellow? Though some also might say, delusional? Bloke's a ***, end of ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, handsofclay said: I'm guessing it will get overturned and Elliason will get a two match ban for unsportsmanlike behaviour. It wasn't unsportsmanlike behaviour but I am aware that the powers that be view these incidents through very strange spectacles designed to show opponents of Bristol City in the best possible light. Whether it was a yellow or red it was definitely a foul and Niclas was definitely tripped. One thing he didn't do was roll around clutching his head when he went down like some Swansea players did at any encouragement. You can always tell the clubs that've been in the PL recently by this sort of theatrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I also didn’t like the way the Swansea players fell over and rolled around on the floor at any opportunity. As for the red card, it didn’t seem an overly dangerous foul (like Allen’s last week) so my first instinct was that he’d be given a yellow. However, it was cynical and deliberate so they can’t really complain about it being red. I was concerned that Taylor Moore might be sent off for his lunge in the first half , but with his foul the main difference was that he was late rather than it being deliberate (although I haven’t seen it again yet on the highlights so might be wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Whether it was a yellow or red it was definitely a foul and Niclas was definitely tripped. One thing he didn't do was roll around clutching his head when he went down like some Swansea players did at any encouragement. You can always tell the clubs that've been in the PL recently by this sort of theatrics. Also a lot of snidey shirt pulling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Whether it was a yellow or red it was definitely a foul and Niclas was definitely tripped. One thing he didn't do was roll around clutching his head when he went down like some Swansea players did at any encouragement. You can always tell the clubs that've been in the PL recently by this sort of theatrics. Will city be playing like this next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Midred said: Will city be playing like this next season? We will need to get some coaching at the Old Vic if we go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I think it was a red, a very bad dangerous foul that was totally premeditated. Not just a simple trip to stop a breakaway that you see yellows for. However I also thought Moore’s was a red but then again I think he was at least going for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 Never a red card...the minute the ref started talking with the lino it was only ever going to be a red. Bad tackle but a yellow it should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I didn’t think it was especially violent, but it was exceptionally cynical, as Eliasson had flown past him into a big inviting space. Very, very deliberate and late - not mistimed. Taylor Moore’s looked very similar, but was, I think mistimed and not a professional foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: It was definitely not as bad as Allen’s last week..... ....but I wonder whether the lift up contributed to the red. Probably by letter of law a red card....but I suppose we see worse unpunished. I thought the ref was anomalously good yesterday...,perhaps that’s because he blended in with a Swans kit. Perhaps with a name like Harrington, he should’ve worn black with a red tartan trim! Yep, funny that the only thing I think he got wrong was the opposition’s red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 I see that Swansea"s appeal against Bidwells Red Card was rejected by the FA. What a shock? What I don't understand?, I was under the impression that if a spurious appeal was made, that an extra game ban was added? Namely instead of a 3 game suspension, it became four? Is this not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, maxjak said: I see that Swansea"s appeal against Bidwells Red Card was rejected by the FA. What a shock? What I don't understand?, I was under the impression that if a spurious appeal was made, that an extra game ban was added? Namely instead of a 3 game suspension, it became four? Is this not the case? I thought the risk with an appeal is that they could increase the sanction, but I hadn't heard that was an automatic thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Swansea fans on Twitter furious it wasn't overturned. Saying they can't understand at all how it's not been changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 24, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, maxjak said: I see that Swansea"s appeal against Bidwells Red Card was rejected by the FA. What a shock? What I don't understand?, I was under the impression that if a spurious appeal was made, that an extra game ban was added? Namely instead of a 3 game suspension, it became four? Is this not the case? Only if the appeal is declared as being "frivolous" - AKA when the F.A. feel the club is taking the piss appealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 24, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, TBW said: Swansea fans on Twitter furious it wasn't overturned. Saying they can't understand at all how it's not been changed. Let's be honest judging by those I witnessed last Saturday I think many of theme would struggle with the basics of life not alone the rules of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, TBW said: Swansea fans on Twitter furious it wasn't overturned. Saying they can't understand at all how it's not been changed. Probably because judgement was made in English... they need a Welsh interpreter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Goch Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Bidwell’s was a yellow all day long for me. Moore’s was a straight red if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robin Goch said: Bidwell’s was a yellow all day long for me. Moore’s was a straight red if anything. Both red. Bidwell went right through the player, the ball isn't there to be played. You take the player, you take a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I thought the risk with an appeal is that they could increase the sanction, but I hadn't heard that was an automatic thing. 21 minutes ago, phantom said: Only if the appeal is declared as being "frivolous" - AKA when the F.A. feel the club is taking the piss appealing Correct. Often clubs would appeal, because it meant a delay before it could get heard, meaning the player could play next game. The frivolous rule was brought in to combat that. Nowadays appeal the. hearing has to be quicker to ensure next game isn’t impacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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