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Personally don't like talking to 'celebrities'. Little bee in my bonnet I guess that there are people out there working for the NHS, researching cures for cancer etc etc who go unnoticed and unrewarded, yet we give godlike status to people who are good at football. 

Maybe jealous that they're getting paid a fortune for doing something I love but don't like fuelling egos and helping to reinforce this supremacy divide between them and us. I guess as a kid meeting your hero is pretty cool but always felt it a little cringey for a fully grown man to go up to another man and start complementing him and idolising him because he plays for my favourite football team.

Expect there may be several who disagree with me on this 

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17 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

Sounds arrogant, but I'm never remotely starstruck. I've sat alongside (public transport, theatre) or chatted to many famous folk. My missus always has a dig at me if I fail to point out famous faces when we're out and about in London or Chipping Norton. 

On the subject of Blur, Alex James lives 4 doors up. Don't like him much. 

Graham Coxon used to live just round the corner from me, in a much, much, much nicer house. Our old neighbour once gave him a friendly punch on the arm in a cafe, thinking he was my then flatmate. When me and my flatmate walked in two minutes later, we were greeted by our neighbour pointing at my flatmate (who was ten years younger than Graham Coxon and doesn't look all that much like him) and apologising...

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40 minutes ago, City18 said:

Personally don't like talking to 'celebrities'. Little bee in my bonnet I guess that there are people out there working for the NHS, researching cures for cancer etc etc who go unnoticed and unrewarded, yet we give godlike status to people who are good at football. 

Maybe jealous that they're getting paid a fortune for doing something I love but don't like fuelling egos and helping to reinforce this supremacy divide between them and us. I guess as a kid meeting your hero is pretty cool but always felt it a little cringey for a fully grown man to go up to another man and start complementing him and idolising him because he plays for my favourite football team.

Expect there may be several who disagree with me on this 

I'll go with that. 

For the same reason it shouldn't really matter a single jot what a person earns or what they have.

But I tend to have a strong dislike for the 'circle' of middle-class socialising where I live. It's very insular and has the smell of "them and us". 

I just can't bring myself to mix these people any more. It's inward looking, not outward. They laugh at things that aren't funny - I find them nauseating! 

But then they probably don't like me so that's fine. 

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Twice within a couple of years, I bumped into Jantzen Derrick in John Lewis and first time it was me who said hello and second time he did.

Walking in Corfu town on holiday, I met Harold Jarman and we had a couple of minutes banter about City, Rovers and Glos Cricket. Four months later in the car park behind the Williams before a game, we met again. He looked at me and said "Corfu!" He was then scouting for Man City.

Footballers are no different to any other celebrities when you meet them in real life away from the stadium - be polite and don't expect a conversation lasting more than a minute or so. Just shake hands and say "Thanks" for what you do for our club.

I heard Madonna years ago on Steve Wright programme when she was married to Guy Ritchie.she said she loved window shopping in Oxford Street on a Saturday afternoon while Guy was at Highbury. She wore a headscarf and dark glasses and people still recognised her although most were too shy to say hello. She felt at ease there because it was the complete opposite to the US where any recognition by fans meant thousands were there within a minute or so. 

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Have lots of mutual friends with Jacki so have met him many times - lovely bloke. 

Back in June, was on the pitch at Piast Gliwice just after they'd sealed the title to become 'the Polish Leicester' and was the first person to speak to Tom Hateley (son of...) after the whistle went. He was collapsed on the turf looking utterly bewildered at the scale of the win but looked even more confused when some drunk bloke from Bristol came staggering up to him. Ended up meeting him and his wife later that evening during the team's celebrations and they were absolutely brilliant. I'd assumed someone growing up in the football bubble would be a bit of a moron, but he was totally charming and engaging and came across as a really well-mannered, thoughtful, intelligent soul. 

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3 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

Have lots of mutual friends with Jacki so have met him many times - lovely bloke. 

Back in June, was on the pitch at Piast Gliwice just after they'd sealed the title to become 'the Polish Leicester' and was the first person to speak to Tom Hateley (son of...) after the whistle went. He was collapsed on the turf looking utterly bewildered at the scale of the win but looked even more confused when some drunk bloke from Bristol came staggering up to him. Ended up meeting him and his wife later that evening during the team's celebrations and they were absolutely brilliant. I'd assumed someone growing up in the football bubble would be a bit of a moron, but he was totally charming and engaging and came across as a really well-mannered, thoughtful, intelligent soul. 

Tom Hateley,  son of Mark Hateley, grandson of Tony Hateley who was a player in the 1950 and 1960 era.

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4 hours ago, RedsTilliDie said:

I was in John Lewis in cribs once and was wearing my city coat. As you do and Louis Carey was doing his shopping and he came up to me . Absolute lad came up said do you want a picture and we started talking about the team nowadays. They are human just talk to them like one and you will be fine 

Louis is a really nice guy.  Met him a few times while he was playing and at that time my daughter's partner was one of his best mates. 

Also spent a few hours with Walshy in Frenchay Hospital hand injury clinic. I was waiting to be seen and he was there because his son had been injured playing for Bath City. He was on the coaching staff for us at the time. Lovely bloke and very easy to chat to.

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40 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I remember Eric Clapton saying in an interview how lonely he felt at the school gates picking up his child as people were too nervous to talk to him, perhaps he tried to speak to them too and they were a bit starstruck, and then felt awkward. 

Great player. Not sure about his famous when the seagulls follow the trawler speech mind, but hey. 

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2 hours ago, City18 said:

Personally don't like talking to 'celebrities'. Little bee in my bonnet I guess that there are people out there working for the NHS, researching cures for cancer etc etc who go unnoticed and unrewarded, yet we give godlike status to people who are good at football. 

Maybe jealous that they're getting paid a fortune for doing something I love but don't like fuelling egos and helping to reinforce this supremacy divide between them and us. I guess as a kid meeting your hero is pretty cool but always felt it a little cringey for a fully grown man to go up to another man and start complementing him and idolising him because he plays for my favourite football team.

Expect there may be several who disagree with me on this 

I agree it is or would be a bit cringey for a grown up to approach a player with a ‘I Gurt thinks you are brilliant ‘

Depends Where they are , what they are doing and what you have to say.....

I remember bumping into Wilbs just before he left here and thanked him for the way he had conducted himself here and what he’d done to help us as a club 

Last week  bumped into Ashley Williams and merely said ‘Welcome to the club , glad to have you here , I think you will enjoy it’

Both offered a smile a thanks and a handshake  

Short and sweet

 

It falls back on basic manners and appropriate timing but I think it’s positive to make players welcome at the Club and in the City

 

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  59 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I remember Eric Clapton saying in an interview how lonely he felt at the school gates picking up his child as people were too nervous to talk to him, perhaps he tried to speak to them too and they were a bit starstruck, and then felt awkward. 

Cyderinacan

Great player. Not sure about his famous when the seagulls follow the trawler speech mind, but hey. 

1 hour ago, cidered abroad said:

Tom Hateley,  son of Mark Hateley, grandson of Tony Hateley who was a player in the 1950 and 1960 era.

Another footballer that goes into pop music. Tony Hateley, Spandau Ballet. You could just imagine him, when he was a footballer and playing alone up front, thinking I don't need this pressure on.

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2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

I'll go with that. 

For the same reason it shouldn't really matter a single jot what a person earns or what they have.

But I tend to have a strong dislike for the 'circle' of middle-class socialising where I live. It's very insular and has the smell of "them and us". 

I just can't bring myself to mix these people any more. It's inward looking, not outward. They laugh at things that aren't funny - I find them nauseating! 

But then they probably don't like me so that's fine. 

Your not Dave Cameron are you ?? 😉

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1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

I agree it is or would be a bit cringey for a grown up to approach a player with a ‘I Gurt thinks you are brilliant ‘

Depends Where they are , what they are doing and what you have to say.....

I remember bumping into Wilbs just before he left here and thanked him for the way he had conducted himself here and what he’d done to help us as a club 

Last week  bumped into Ashley Williams and merely said ‘Welcome to the club , glad to have you here , I think you will enjoy it’

Both offered a smile a thanks and a handshake  

Short and sweet

 

It falls back on basic manners and appropriate timing but I think it’s positive to make players welcome at the Club and in the City

 

In this case, I think there is no harm and as you say making someone feel welcomed in a new city is a nice thing to do. However, seeing a middle aged man a couple of weeks back get up in the middle of his family meal out to get a selfie with Daniel Bentley while he was out with his family himself made me cringe.

That being said, if I passed a man or woman who I knew had been critical in a significant medical break through then I would love the opportunity to give them the thanks they often go without.

Being honest, I think all the money that is now thrown into football has in my opinion somewhat ruined my favourite sport and the concept that being good at football means you gain a godlike status in society is something that frustrates me. I don't like the idea of fuelling these apparent egos in the game, and then seeing countless articles about players kicking off for not being the highest paid player at a club (whilst still on 100,000+ a week) turns me against these people further.

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1 hour ago, Robert the bruce said:

Your not Dave Cameron are you ?? 😉

Count to 10...... 😂

No. But I know the house where he lives, in a village called Dean. The local 'tip' - only a few hundred yards from his place - mysteriously closed within months of his moving in. 

A weird place to live. Right on the road. Gawd knows why they think he was safe given he would have been a terrorist target. He and his family were easy pickings I would think. 

The same village, BTW, as Ronnie Barker. Now, he was a true gent unlike the slimy aforementioned. A lovely man who also owned an antique shop in Chipping Norton until around 2000. 

 

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21 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I was star struck!  I was the same when I saw Damon Albarn in Hotel Du Vin a few years back!

 

20 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Bet you were humming the HNM song as you wandered off !

:yes:

 

20 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I was whilst picturing him lifting the World Cup for France and me sat there at home going “I nearly met him and nearly talked to him but bottled it!”

Not sure Damon would recognise that song - and I didn’t know the former Blur frontman was French and good at kicking a ball about?!

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7 hours ago, RedsTilliDie said:

I was in John Lewis in cribs once and was wearing my city coat. As you do and Louis Carey was doing his shopping and he came up to me . Absolute lad came up said do you want a picture and we started talking about the team nowadays. They are human just talk to them like one and you will be fine 

Me and a mate bumped into Des Lynam once - my mate said “any chance of a photo Des?” - Mr Lynam agreed so my mate handed his camera to Des, put his arm round me and smiled cheesily! True story ... Des thought it was hilarious, top man!

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Me and a mate bumped into Des Lynam once - my mate said “any chance of a photo Des?” - Mr Lynam agreed so my mate handed his camera to Des, put his arm round me and smiled cheesily! True story ... Des thought it was hilarious, top man!

Wine 'em, Dine 'em, Des Lynam.

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4 hours ago, glen humphries said:

Had a chat with josh brownhill a couple of times when I’ve seen him out in town , really nice kid , talked to kalas in San Carlos again nice bloke , sat next to mark lawrenson on a flight to Alicante a few years ago ( miserable bastard)

Did Josh fall over? 

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