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Luton Away/Ticket Requests (Merged)

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18 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

Swansea away could be a huge game, why should someone who’s not been arsed to go away all season have the same priority level as someone who’s travelled all over the country, all season long?

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4 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Swansea away could be a huge game, why should someone who’s not been arsed to go away all season have the same priority level as someone who’s travelled all over the country, all season long?

Exactly. I might have been to Wimbledon and FGR preseason, and to Birmingham, QPR in the cup, Stoke, Preston tomorrow and Brentford next week, but I don't mind being behind someone in the queue who's also done Derby, Hull and a Friday night in Barnsley. I mildly resent missing out on Luton because I was unaware that tickets were even going on sale...

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7 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Swansea away could be a huge game, why should someone who’s not been arsed to go away all season have the same priority level as someone who’s travelled all over the country, all season long?

Weve got 15000 season ticket holders, granted they don't all want to go away. But why should the same people get ticketes, while the same people miss out?

 

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12 minutes ago, Chappers said:

Just go to Barnsley, Hull, Preston etc. No problem with tickets for those, then you’d qualify if we get a game with a low allocation.

That's bollocks, so only super fans get tickets then? That's your choice to go every week, we cant all commit. I wanted to go to Luton but missed out  that's tough shit!

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4 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Weve got 15000 season ticket holders, granted they don't all want to go away. But why should the same people get ticketes, while the same people miss out?

 

Because the some people who get tickets will be the same people who have supported the team away from home throughout the season. 
It costs a lot of money and time following the City away, of course the ones who go more regularly should be rewarded for this by getting priority for the big games. 

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9 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Weve got 15000 season ticket holders, granted they don't all want to go away. But why should the same people get ticketes, while the same people miss out?

 

@Betty Swallocks may have beaten me to it but it really shouldn't be 'tough' anything. A willingness to travel away and support the side should be rewarded...if the club wants fans to travel to away matches. Any season ticket holder wanting to get a ticket tomorrow can pay on the gate...but the vast majority have other things to do.

I'm lucky enough to be able to travel a fair bit at the moment but I don't have a problem with people who do it every Saturday being ahead of me in the queue.

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2 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Because the some people who get tickets will be the same people who have supported the team away from home throughout the season. 
It costs a lot of money and time following the City away, of course the ones who go more regularly should be rewarded for this by getting priority for the big games. 

Why? I don't doubt your commitment to the cause, but theres other fans that want tickets, but cant get them.

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2 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why? I don't doubt your commitment to the cause, but theres other fans that want tickets, but cant get them.

Why?!!.... you sound like a child who’s just being annoying. 
I’ve clearly set out why it’s important for people who go regularly to be rewarded with priority for the bigger games. 

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4 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Why?!!.... you sound like a child who’s just being annoying. 
I’ve clearly set out why it’s important for people who go regularly to be rewarded with priority for the bigger games. 

Indeed. With all due respect to @Hello Dave, and appreciating that we are all City fans, the vast majority of away games don't sell out. Anyone can go tomorrow. The games that sell out are the easy ones to get to, and for those the front of the queue, in my opinion, should be reserved for the people who made it when others didn't...which often won't include me.

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10 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

That's bollocks, so only super fans get tickets then? That's your choice to go every week, we cant all commit. I wanted to go to Luton but missed out  that's tough shit!

No, those of us that make the effort most weeks, rewarding loyalty and effort. It’s only about once or twice a season at the moment that tickets are in short supply, so give the regulars priority for those games. If you can only make one or two, you have plenty of other choices.

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2 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Why?!!.... you sound like a child who’s just being annoying. 
I’ve clearly set out why it’s important for people who go regularly to be rewarded with priority for the bigger games. 

All im saying is, just because you go to x amount of games, why should you have priority when theres a limited amount of tickets? Someone is bound to miss out. I remember queing up at 4 in the morning for Walsall tickets in the play offs. IF I hadn't been to another game all season, would that have made me any less deserving?

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2 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

All im saying is, just because you go to x amount of games, why should you have priority when theres a limited amount of tickets? Someone is bound to miss out. I remember queing up at 4 in the morning for Walsall tickets in the play offs. IF I hadn't been to another game all season, would that have made me any less deserving?

Less deserving that someone who'd been to every away match that season? Yes, I think you would have been.

Season ticket holders already get a priority over people unable to make that financial commitment...why should they if it's just a lottery?

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5 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

All im saying is, just because you go to x amount of games, why should you have priority when theres a limited amount of tickets? Someone is bound to miss out. I remember queing up at 4 in the morning for Walsall tickets in the play offs. IF I hadn't been to another game all season, would that have made me any less deserving?

Yes of course you would have been less deserving.

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2 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

Less deserving that someone who'd been to every away match that season? Yes, I think you would have been.

Season ticket holders already get a priority over people unable to make that financial commitment...why should they if it's just a lottery?

I am a season ticket holder that cant go to every away game, some games theres more fans than tickets. Why cant it be a lottery for season ticket holders?

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23 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Weve got 15000 season ticket holders, granted they don't all want to go away. But why should the same people get ticketes, while the same people miss out?

 

 

Did you think the manchester united home game should have just been one massive general sale ? Because the same people who go to every home game got priority for that.

 

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1 minute ago, Hello Dave said:

I am a season ticket holder that cant go to every away game, some games theres more fans than tickets. Why cant it be a lottery for season ticket holders?

I don't think that's a great idea personally, I think people who travel a lot should be rewarded...I think away travel is quite a different commitment to watching the side at home, in money and time. The best part of £100 for some away matches.

...BUT having been a member of the England travel club and realising that there are people who have been to every game for a couple of decades, meaning I will never get a ticket, I can see that a lottery might open it up more. But a lottery would need to be just that...everyone who wants to go applies and if that's more people than we have tickets for there is a random draw...like for the Euros next summer. Not a 'if you are in the know or live around the corner  you get to the front of the queue for the big matches' affair.

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3 minutes ago, cider-manc said:

 

Did you think the manchester united home game should have just been one massive general sale ? Because the same people who go to every home game got priority for that.

 

Not at all, season ticket holders get priority. But if theres not enough tickets to go around, why should the same people get them?

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56 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

56 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

56 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

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3 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

I don't think that's a great idea personally, I think people who travel a lot should be rewarded...I think away travel is quite a different commitment to watching the side at home, in money and time. The best part of £100 for some away matches.

...BUT having been a member of the England travel club and realising that there are people who have been to every game for a couple of decades, meaning I will never get a ticket, I can see that a lottery might open it up more. But a lottery would need to be just that...everyone who wants to go applies and if that's more people than we have tickets for there is a random draw...like for the Euros next summer. Not a 'if you are in the know or live around the corner  you get to the front of the queue for the big matches' affair.

I think youre right re England. Its the same at Glastonbury, people saying they go every year, then moan like **** that one year they cant get a ticket. Well perhaps its someone elses turn that hasn't been before!!

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On 25/09/2019 at 17:01, formerly known as ivan said:

Remember going there a while ago be leaving at half time as we were 5-0 down!

Dinning had just made his loan spell permanent from what I can recall.

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2 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said:

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

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New to the forum so I'm ready to be shot down in flames, but wanted to post that I'm genuinely gutted that I'm unable to get a ticket for Luton away, iv been to all away games this season and going to preston tomorrow, with my 9 year old son. Driving up just the 2 of us so going to be a long day. 

Im only a membership owner, but was hoping that maybe a few hundred would of been saved to go on sale for membership owners but also understand that season ticket holders should have first refusal, 

Shame we couldn't get the same support tomorrow, just because it's double the distance

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On 25/09/2019 at 17:57, Red7 said:

Went there to watch City many years ago. Luckily the game got called off (very late on), so didn't have to spend too long there.

A midweek, cup (replay) game, back in the 1980s?

If it was the same game, I seem to recall it had been raining heavily all day - I was working in Watford at the time - and was just about to leave my office when I received a call from my local, Luton-supporting colleague telling me not to bother due to the torrential downpour.

I decided to take a chance, fought my way through the Watford rush hour traffic only to hear on the radio that the match had been postponed: two hours in a constant traffic jam for absolutely nothing.

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16 minutes ago, BCFCALEX said:

Shame we couldn't get the same support tomorrow, just because it's double the distance

I'm guessing you've answered your own question

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1 minute ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

A midweek, cup (replay) game, back in the 1980s?

If it was the same game, I seem to recall it had been raining heavily all day - I was working in Watford at the time - and was just about to leave my office when I received a call from my local, Luton-supporting colleague telling me not to bother due to the torrential downpour.

I decided to take a chance, fought my way through the Watford rush hour traffic only to hear on the radio that the match had been postponed: two hours in a constant traffic jam for absolutely nothing.

I was also on the way to that match...and have never been to Kenilworth Road as a consequence.

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2 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Not at all, season ticket holders get priority. But if theres not enough tickets to go around, why should the same people get them?

There wasn't enough tickets available for the manchester united game. It sold out on members sale, so there will be fans that didn’t get tickets who werent season ticket holders and not members (members sale was also broken down by a priority level, those who went to games and those that didnt) so effectively the same people that always attend games got tickets.

Why should away games be any different? 

I'm sorry if i'm coming across as arguementative, but frankly as a season ticket holder who travels 143 miles each way for home games and also attends at least 15 away games a season... Id be absolutely livid if we go up and i couldn't get a ticket for old trafford (3 miles from my house) as there is no loyalty system in place and people whod never been to an away game bought all the tickets. 

However, if i missed out with a priority system in place id be more understanding (if still a bit annoyed).

 

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56 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games.

1 hour ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

We very rarely sell out, if you want to go to games then you can.

I believe the 3 or 4 times we do sell out, the people that go to the most away games should have priority over others.

Whether it's strong commitment, nothing else to do, because of their location or just a crazy love for Bristol City,  they've shown that it means more to them to go to our away games

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42 minutes ago, Hello Dave said:

I remember queing up at 4 in the morning for Walsall tickets in the play offs....

I was in that queue pal - think I got there around 2.30am - dear old Des Williams walked down the queue with some cups and a pot of tea - what a legend our former chairman was - I was gutted when his name disappeared from the stand named after him ...

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1 hour ago, Hello Dave said:

Why have a priority? That means the same people will get tickets for all the games! Same as Glastonbury, if you get a ticket, then great. if you don't,tough. Why cant we share tickets around, after all, is one supporter more worthy than another?

Well for a start, Glastonbury ticket launch is announced well in advance so that all who want a ticket are in with an equal chance, at least. That didn't happen here.

In any case I don't believe there's a comparison between those who would like to attend an annual festival and those who follow their football team all over the country every week.

I only go to about five away games a season on average but was targeting the Luton game, having not been there for about fifteen years. If I had managed to get a ticket ahead of all those regular away travellers mentioned by Ole above, would that have been fair enough? No I don't think it would. A priority system is absolutely needed in cases like this and yes, the lads who go away all the time ARE more worthy when it comes to ticket allocation, sorry. 

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44 minutes ago, phantom said:

I'm guessing you've answered your own question

So your not ready to follow overland and sea and Cardiff?? 

If we get promotion you wouldn't fancy Newcastle/ Manchester ect

My point is don't worry about the distance we should be selling the same as Luton away for all away games minimum 

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I go to every game. I don’t expect any recognition or special privileges. But what really ***** me off is away games when there’s day trippers hanging round the ticket office not looking to buy a ticket but waiting for freebies from their ‘mates’ at the club. You can bet there will be plenty of ‘mates’ tickets going for Luton.

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4 hours ago, BCFCALEX said:

So your not ready to follow overland and sea and Cardiff?? 

If we get promotion you wouldn't fancy Newcastle/ Manchester ect

My point is don't worry about the distance we should be selling the same as Luton away for all away games minimum 

I don't disagree with your point but ultimately it comes down to ££ and some people will have to pick and choose their games 

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On 26/09/2019 at 12:10, Nogbad the Bad said:

Haven't been there since Nov.75. Special train iirc.

0-0 draw, only highlight being Jimmy Mann thwacking the bar at our end with typical languid ferocity from about 30 yards.

Plus brawling when Luton fans came into our end which was an open terrace in those days.

 

I was there too. Remember all of that plus it was the featured ITV game on the Sunday Big Match

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9 hours ago, Drew Peacock said:

Can you imagine the Bristol Sport IT department setting up a priority system? 😱

 

9 hours ago, Red Exile said:

frankly...no.

They managed it for the Manchester cup games and it worked very well.

Priority was tiered for members depending on the number of matches purchased that season. It also had the added bonus effect of encouraging members like myself to attend more games to push themselves into a higher category; future games counted as well as past ones.

It should be very do-able for away matches in a similar way.

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16 hours ago, Olé said:

I don't go in for the endless circular arguments OTIB throws up about trivial differences of opinion like this - you're making a valid semantic point which is fair enough but you're also more than capable of knowing exactly the point I'm making too.

Which isn't about simply "intending to go", but about always going because you travel come rain or shine, in a few hundred at Hull or however many it'll be tomorrow. That's a far smaller number who were guaranteed to go but weren't given a chance.

That’s fair enough Rob and I do of course agree. Club screwed up here, not denying that for a second.

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54 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

 

They managed it for the Manchester cup games and it worked very well.

Priority was tiered for members depending on the number of matches purchased that season. It also had the added bonus effect of encouraging members like myself to attend more games to push themselves into a higher category; future games counted as well as past ones.

It should be very do-able for away matches in a similar way.

Oh I don't deny that it's very do-able. But then so is giving more than a couple of hours notice of ticket sales for the most constrained away match of the regular season. But it would require re-establishing, maintaining and policing a robust tracking system of sales and points acquired. Such a system existed in the past but I question whether a club happy to employ such a seemingły anonymous SLO will think that worth the effort. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong!

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13 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

A midweek, cup (replay) game, back in the 1980s?

I think it was the original cup game on a weekend before that replay. Memory a bit hazy. Got to Luton to find out it had been called off, so went to watch Villa v Sags instead. Think a lot of City fans did the same. 

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England have a reasonable system of rewarding those who go all the time and also giving a chance to those with less caps. Would like to see something like this for games away with low allocations. 

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2 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said:

England have a reasonable system of rewarding those who go all the time and also giving a chance to those with less caps. Would like to see something like this for games away with low allocations. 

Big difference is that most England games sell out, so getting caps is less easy. With City it is only usually once or twice a season, so if you only want to do an occasional away game, you still have more than 20 to choose from. I really don’t see what the issue is, those that make the effort going to away games regularly, particularly the long distance trips, should get priority on the rare occasions that demand is greater than supply.

 

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On 25/09/2019 at 19:42, Grey Fox said:

Went to the League Cup match there a couple of years ago (lost 2-3) , had a couple of pints in the Conservative Club, followed by one of the best, and cheapest, curries i've ever had in one of the local restaurants, not so bad.

First visit there was early 70's, we lost 0-3 , Malcolm Macdonald tore us apart, however the Luton Supporters club were happy to serve me cider , age 15, so could have been worse

There’s a curry house, in Luton...?! 

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I met a bloke yesterday who has gone to every game for 7 years who did not get a ticket,a few years ago we got Haywood Swifts in the Fa cup and only had a few hundred tickets what if that happens again ? There should be a system where the people who travel to every away game can get a ticket,maybe a voucher given at Middlesbough away that gives priority or on the database just those that go to every away game are given priority.

The Club does not appreciate these fans they just think that if they get the money for away travel it's OK, but it is not OK, as the real fans miss out ! 

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7 minutes ago, foghornred said:

I met a bloke yesterday who has gone to every game for 7 years who did not get a ticket,a few years ago we got Haywood Swifts in the Fa cup and only had a few hundred tickets what if that happens again ? There should be a system where the people who travel to every away game can get a ticket,maybe a voucher given at Middlesbough away that gives priority or on the database just those that go to every away game are given priority.

The Club does not appreciate these fans they just think that if they get the money for away travel it's OK, but it is not OK, as the real fans miss out ! 

So what would stop someone buying a ticket for Middlesbrough Away and not going to the match just so that they then get priority for other more glamorous games. No system is infallible. Points systems don't work for this very reason and it results in the same people getting tickets (whether they attend the matches or not). Not sure how many season ticket holders travel regularly away ( the club would know this) probably no more than 1,000 - 1500. The current system of Season ticket priority is the fairest imho that way it is first come first served. Yes we all agree the club messed up with this one but frankly they sold out so don't care who bought the tickets. Whatever system is used for a small allocation like Luton then some people miss out for whatever reason (me included).

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Priority system or not, the ‘fairest’ way to do it is to give fans enough notice that tickets are going on sale. That way they can make sure they’re prepared to get online or on the phone at the required time.

If I then missed out due to others getting in there first then fair enough, but at least I would have had a fair crack at getting one.

The 26 minutes notice given by the club during a time when people will have been at work was ridiculous. Would be interested in hearing the reason behind it to be fair.

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Did season ticket holders get first shout of Luton away ( sorry I don’t know ) .If so then that’s fine and that’s the correct people given priority, regardless to whether you’ve travelled to 10 or 3 away games , if you pick and choose you take your chance only way to be sure is be a season ticket holder !

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49 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

Did season ticket holders get first shout of Luton away ( sorry I don’t know ) .If so then that’s fine and that’s the correct people given priority, regardless to whether you’ve travelled to 10 or 3 away games , if you pick and choose you take your chance only way to be sure is be a season ticket holder !

Yes they did but I think the fuss is that we were only given 28 minutes notice and at a time when people either at work or on way to work 

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I was hoping to make this a new ground for me this season although I knew that only being a member the chances of getting a ticket were possibly slim.  Despite knowing that somehow I still feel disappointed. Really feel for the likes of the person who has been to every game for seven years. 

Although I know I am not the most worthy no one yet seems to have said ………… any tickets going for the Luton game PM me...so I'll be the first in the queue to request ;)

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