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GJ famously always liked to wait til 10 games to judge how well (or not) we were doing. So after the first 10 games we’ve lost only 1 game, are in 7th place and 4pts off 2nd.

Arguably unlucky not to have had an extra 2pts at the weekend too which would see us in 5th place. 

So after 10 games are we happy with where we are and is it deserved? 

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18 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

GJ famously always liked to wait til 10 games to judge how well (or not) we were doing. So after the first 10 games we’ve lost only 1 game, are in 7th place and 4pts off 2nd.

Arguably unlucky not to have had an extra 2pts at the weekend too which would see us in 5th place. 

So after 10 games are we happy with where we are and is it deserved? 

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Can’t be arsed to look it up but think we also had 17 from 10 in the play off final season,  which Lee’sdad thought was pretty good?

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...and already 15 points better off than Stoke. Poor old Stoke.

Decent start i'd say, looking up rather than down. Only 1 outside playoff positions, 4 off top. Some quality home form please, players to return from injury.

It's all good. Top time to be a City fan.

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Home form will be crucial because if we don't frequently win at home, just outside the play off's is the best I can see.

Despite the magnificent efforts in away matches to keep the points coming in, we need better quality in the goal scoring department. At the moment, the Afobe injury and our lack of another quality striker, may be the nail in the coffin that keeps us out of the play offs, let alone automatic promotion. Same as last season.

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It's definitely been good. The fact we have had all of these injuries means it has been even better.

Were I to look beyond the obvious great aspects, the lack of control and possession in games makes me a little wary. Again all of these injuries mean we are finding a way and doing it well, which certainly increases optimism for when the injuries are clearing up..

The conversion rate without Afobe I also wonder about, plus in general- we've played equal numbers of games with Afobe and without him, will look at these tomorrow. Would've thought we converted more with him.

Overall though, happy with this. 17 pts 10 games, think was the same in that playoff season.

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17 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Can’t be arsed to look it up but think we also had 17 from 10 in the play off final season,  which Lee’sdad thought was pretty good?

Pretty sure Gary used to work in blocks of 10, and 17 points was the requirement for him for play-offs.

Need to ensure we don’t turn into a draw specialist, but I think it’s good to go on long unbeaten runs....breeds confidence for a club like us....but will need to improve home form.

Not a must-win Saturday, but 20 points from 11, would be fantastic.

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Already annoyed by my tendency to think 'if only' regards Afobe. Also a little concerned that if this is our injury list after 10 games, what the hell might it look like after 20. 

But casting aside the natural pessimism that comes with being a football fan, delighted at the start and it seems that all the paranoia about our close season dealings has ebbed away - it's almost as if LJ knows more about this game than us.

Long may it continue. 

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10 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Home form will be crucial because if we don't frequently win at home, just outside the play off's is the best I can see.

Despite the magnificent efforts in away matches to keep the points coming in, we need better quality in the goal scoring department. At the moment, the Afobe injury and our lack of another quality striker, may be the nail in the coffin that keeps us out of the play offs, let alone automatic promotion. Same as last season.

With the way the fixtures have landed, and the international break, it seems like our home season has barely even got going. 

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4 minutes ago, Allwaysred said:

Good start but nothing less that a win Saturday at home..... injuries have been shocking but I can't help feel we're still that proven man short up top to make the difference when it matters. 

But we had that proven man. A freak injury has seen him ruled out, there isn't nothing we can do until January so we just need to suck it up and soldier on until then.

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4 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

But we had that proven man. A freak injury has seen him ruled out, there isn't nothing we can do until January so we just need to suck it up and soldier on until then.

Still think we need another in the summer for that exact reason as it stands we're no different to last year with AW top scorer. October is a massive month so will see if that's telling but on to Saturday we go... ?

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9 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

But we had that proven man. A freak injury has seen him ruled out, there isn't nothing we can do until January so we just need to suck it up and soldier on until then.

Sounds counterintuitive given the 10 games unbeaten but when Nagy in I'd consider either:

Palmer behind Weimann in a 4-4-1-1.

Or, Palmer behind Weimann in a 3-5-1-1. Improve from, bulld on a position of strength- that may help to solve the Afobe issue.

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56 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

GJ famously always liked to wait til 10 games to judge how well (or not) we were doing. So after the first 10 games we’ve lost only 1 game, are in 7th place and 4pts off 2nd.

Arguably unlucky not to have had an extra 2pts at the weekend too which would see us in 5th place. 

So after 10 games are we happy with where we are and is it deserved? 

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Wonderful evidence of who we are as a club.

Hopefully long gone are the days where we were a div 3 club who very occasionally played up in div 2 for a bit.

A formidable Championship club who most teams will fear and when the chips finally fall right, will March out of this division.

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6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Sounds counterintuitive given the 10 games unbeaten but when Nagy in I'd consider either:

Palmer behind Weimann in a 4-4-1-1.

Or, Palmer behind Weimann in a 3-5-1-1. Improve from, bulld on a position of strength- that may help to solve the Afobe issue.

If we are to continue with 5212 (I hope we do), then Palmer behind:

Weimann / Semenyo - first choice imho

Weimann with either Szmodics or O’Dowda.

Fam cannot play with Palmer or Weimann....it’s becoming a problem.

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If we are to continue with 5212 (I hope we do), then Palmer behind:

Weimann / Semenyo - first choice imho

Weimann with either Szmodics or O’Dowda.

Fam cannot play with Palmer or Weimann....it’s becoming a problem.

I think we all knew that Benik’s injury was the one, of all of them, that would have the biggest impact.

Lee needs to find the right mix at the top of the team - and that does not appear to be an easy task.

I think it’s been a very good start, the injuries being the only negative point.

The lack of goals is a worry that all of us recognize, I would hope we are scouring the free agent market very thoroughly but that is not a simple fix either.

I think the plan has to be to stay there or thereabouts until January, then make a move in the loan market.

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11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If we are to continue with 5212 (I hope we do), then Palmer behind:

Weimann / Semenyo - first choice imho

Weimann with either Szmodics or O’Dowda.

Fam cannot play with Palmer or Weimann....it’s becoming a problem.

Yep agreed, Diedhiou and those players seems to be just incompatible- had worries this time last year or maybe a bit later than that but certainly 2018 about Paterson behind him- let alone Palmer, or alongside him Weimann!

Yeah, like the sound of the setup- just unsure we should be dropping one of Brownhill, Massengo, Nagy when all fit. It's a very nice dilemma to have of course!

Here's another take. The back 3, and then Massengo and Nagy central.

The front 3 or more like 3-4-2-1, the '2' could he Brownhill and Palmer, both able to get up to and past Weimann. All direct, with energy but skilful too. May yield some more goals from Brownhill too?

The good thing there is that Brownhill can naturally drop into that 3 in some phases, alongside Nagy and Massengo- plus in others can pull a bit wirer to help out Hunt to mitigate against 2 v 1...Weimann can at times pull left to help out Rowe in the same way- albeit from a higher position.

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1 minute ago, ScottishRed said:

I think we all knew that Benik’s injury was the one, of all of them, that would have the biggest impact.

Lee needs to find the right mix at the top of the team - and that does not appear to be an easy task.

I think it’s been a very good start, the injuries being the only negative point.

The lack of goals is a worry that all of us recognize, I would hope we are scouring the free agent market very thoroughly but that is not a simple fix either.

I think the plan has to be to stay there or thereabouts until January, then make a move in the loan market.

Yep.  I guess with my option of COD or SS, you could alter it a bit to 5221.

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Decent return, considering we lost the opener at home to Leeds, and the last 3 draws against Swansea at home, Preston and Brentford away, all of which were definitely a point gained against teams in form and bogey teams in the case of Preston & Brentford. Really need 3 points on Saturday to jump into the top 6.

As per usual in this division, it’s going to be very tight. Tough games aplenty, and hopefully as players return we can build on what we have already achieved. The only concern remains the goalscorer issue, but then again Weimann now has 4 in 10 games, so perhaps all we need is the others to keep chipping in.

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I'm sure we need a replacement for Afobe in the Jan window if we really want promotion, but we all know what that window is like for limited availability and inflated prices.

I hope we can find the right man, though we have done pretty well under the circumstances.

How about Arsenal recalling Nketiah due to lack of game time and loaning him to us?

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After the Leeds game it all looked a bit worrying didn't it, but a steady bonding as a team improved us, and that has helped to carry us over the really unlucky injury run.

Hopefully we will have 2 players back in the next 2 weeks which should add to the midfield and defence.

Pleased for Jack Hunt to get recognised for his attacking work as well.

LJ will have a headache over who to drop for Kalas!

If we can turn some draws into wins then top 6 is a real chance.

Top two will be hard as the teams above have produced some stunning football at times.

Best league in the world really, anyone can beat anyone on their day!

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