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While still impressive read some stuff online and curious as to how much difference it could have made to his time, the revolving pace setters infront of him in a v shape supposedly for aerodynamics, the green laser dot for them to keep them on the best line and the trainers he used which according to someone in the business for that makes it feel like you're running downhill due to the technology in them, apparently for marathons a rule (which correct if wrong) is that runners are required to have shoes that are openly and reasonably accessible to general runners, which the shoes he was wearing sounds like they may not have been. 

As said just curious how much the above factors could have influenced the time and given he was under by 20 seconds is the sub 2 hour marathon (in a marathon) still some way off? 

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Not been able to do one for a bit, but have run 18 marathons in the past decade, including one on each continent and all 6 majors. Not terribly quick: PBs 1h47 for the half and 3h55 for the full.

Hoping to get back to it in the new year.

I watched Eliud's run this morning: phenomenal stuff, notwithstanding the way it was executed.

2 hours ago, Cowshed said:

Best 10k was 34 minutes, half marathon 1.24 I no longer take part in races due to age meaning I was far off my best and I had little motivation to run as slowly as I was, and was becoming . Still run several times a week but just to maintain a level fitness. 

Great times for both.

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2 hours ago, Cowshed said:

Best 10k was 34 minutes, half marathon 1.24 I no longer take part in races due to age meaning I was far off my best and I had little motivation to run as slowly as I was, and was becoming . Still run several times a week but just to maintain a level fitness. 

Really good times mate! I've never done a 10k but reckon I'd struggle to go sub 40. My PB half was 1:31 and always wanted to go sub 1:30.

Good for you keeping it up. 

13 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Not been able to do one for a bit, but have run 18 marathons in the past decade, including one on each continent and all 6 majors. Not terribly quick: PBs 1h47 for the half and 3h55 for the full.

Hoping to get back to it in the new year.

I watched Eliud's run this morning: phenomenal stuff, notwithstanding the way it was executed.

Great times for both.

That's a lot of marathons! You must enjoy it. 

Any marathons particularly stand out?

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1 hour ago, mozo said:

Really good times mate! I've never done a 10k but reckon I'd struggle to go sub 40. My PB half was 1:31 and always wanted to go sub 1:30.

Good for you keeping it up. 

That's a lot of marathons! You must enjoy it. 

Any marathons particularly stand out?

For crowd support, London. For a brilliant race location, NYC. For a destination trip and the fellow runners, Antarctica. 

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Done the 10k in 2015, 51mins 20secs was my time. Only race I have ever done.

Spent a lot of my adult life massively overweight so been running on and off while trying to lose weight over the years. I’m currently on the weight loss train so running as much as I can at the moment but focus more on interval running, few minutes jog, 30 sec sprint, minute walk. Managed to hit the 6 mile mark for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Aim is half marathon and marathon within the next couple of years.

Kipchoge’s achievement today was nothing short of inhuman! His average speed over 26+ miles is faster than my sprinting speed!

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7 minutes ago, mozo said:

You ran Antarctica?! Explain!

As part of the 7 continents achievement it requires running one on Antarctica. I think there are at least 3 organised races there at present. Mine involved a 10 day cruise from Argentina. Really was trip of lifetime stuff.

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3 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

As part of the 7 continents achievement it requires running one on Antarctica. I think there are at least 3 organised races there at present. Mine involved a 10 day cruise from Argentina. Really was trip of lifetime stuff.

Yeah sounds it! What was it like running in those conditions?

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12 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Done the 10k in 2015, 51mins 20secs was my time. Only race I have ever done.

Spent a lot of my adult life massively overweight so been running on and off while trying to lose weight over the years. I’m currently on the weight loss train so running as much as I can at the moment but focus more on interval running, few minutes jog, 30 sec sprint, minute walk. Managed to hit the 6 mile mark for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Aim is half marathon and marathon within the next couple of years.

Kipchoge’s achievement today was nothing short of inhuman! His average speed over 26+ miles is faster than my sprinting speed!

Sounds like you're going well. First half in 2020 then!

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2 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Hilly and cold. Temp was around zero which is fine it suitably dressed, but 40+mph winds and horizontal sleet made it tough.

Winds are a killer. I did Bournemouth, and what should be a pleasant sea front stretch of several flat miles turned out to be a battle against a headwind. I was drained of energy before getting to the the climbs.

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12 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Done the 10k in 2015, 51mins 20secs was my time. Only race I have ever done.

Spent a lot of my adult life massively overweight so been running on and off while trying to lose weight over the years. I’m currently on the weight loss train so running as much as I can at the moment but focus more on interval running, few minutes jog, 30 sec sprint, minute walk. Managed to hit the 6 mile mark for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Aim is half marathon and marathon within the next couple of years.

Kipchoge’s achievement today was nothing short of inhuman! His average speed over 26+ miles is faster than my sprinting speed!

At the Madrid marathon it was an open start, save for the elites in the front pen. I had managed to work my way to the front. After the starting pistol the elites were off like cheetahs, and out of sight in no time. It is not just their pace, the sheer economy of movement and stride is something to behold.

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33 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Posted on here a while ago about running shoes. I have always just gone for Nike, currently have the Epic React 2. Never actually been to a running shop to be assessed. Anywhere you guys would recommend?

After trying various brands, I have worn Brooks GTS for the past 4 or 5 years. They are a stability sole and compensate for my pronation. I tried a lighter neutral shoe some years back (also a Brooks) and knackered my shins.

Definitely go for gait analysis at a store. IIRC there is a running store up near the top of the downs, run by a former competitive runner. They do analysis from what I recall. Name of the place escapes me, unfortunately. 

Edit: this might be it

https://upandrunning.co.uk/bristol

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31 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Posted on here a while ago about running shoes. I have always just gone for Nike, currently have the Epic React 2. Never actually been to a running shop to be assessed. Anywhere you guys would recommend?

Running shops can be frustrating because they often don't advertise the price. They try to find what shoe you like first, then reveal the price last. Gait analysis always worthwhile and doesn't take long. If they find you a shoe that feels great you can always skulk off and try to find the show cheaper online, or even choose the last years model.

Obviously, if money is no issue then definitely go to a specialist running shop like up and running or Easy Runner and get yourself a tip quality shoe. I wear Saucony, but only because they feel better for me than Brooks or other brands. 

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5 hours ago, mozo said:

Running shops can be frustrating because they often don't advertise the price. They try to find what shoe you like first, then reveal the price last. Gait analysis always worthwhile and doesn't take long. If they find you a shoe that feels great you can always skulk off and try to find the show cheaper online, or even choose the last years model.

Obviously, if money is no issue then definitely go to a specialist running shop like up and running or Easy Runner and get yourself a tip quality shoe. I wear Saucony, but only because they feel better for me than Brooks or other brands. 

Agree with all of this. I have settled upon Brooks after trying Saucony and Mizuno too. I keep to the same model. Each year they bring out a new style, but often I still but the prior year's version online with considerable savings.

Worst experience I had was with a pair of Mizunos. Felt great in the store and on the treadmill. After a few years, and a long run (maybe 15 miles), I developed blisters covering large parts of both feet. They just didn't work.

I also tend to have a couple of pairs in active rotation and a pair or two waiting to be used. I track my runs via Garmin/Strava and try and max out 250 miles or so per pair. And generally aim to toss a pair after a race.

Once you have the basic running kit (decathlon.com being a good source with their Kalenji brand) and a GPS watch, shoes are your only major expense, and your feet will thank you for investing in them. By trial and error, I now favour running shorts with a cycle short insert over the Speedo style insert version. Much less crotch rubbing.

Also, neglect your nipples at your peril....

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3 hours ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Worst experience I had was with a pair of Mizunos. Felt great in the store and on the treadmill. After a few runs*, and a long run (maybe 15 miles), I developed blisters covering large parts of both feet. They just didn't work.

Typo corrected to make it more meaningful.

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3 hours ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Agree with all of this. I have settled upon Brooks after trying Saucony and Mizuno too. I keep to the same model. Each year they bring out a new style, but often I still but the prior year's version online with considerable savings.

Worst experience I had was with a pair of Mizunos. Felt great in the store and on the treadmill. After a few years, and a long run (maybe 15 miles), I developed blisters covering large parts of both feet. They just didn't work.

I also tend to have a couple of pairs in active rotation and a pair or two waiting to be used. I track my runs via Garmin/Strava and try and max out 250 miles or so per pair. And generally aim to toss a pair after a race.

Once you have the basic running kit (decathlon.com being a good source with their Kalenji brand) and a GPS watch, shoes are your only major expense, and your feet will thank you for investing in them. By trial and error, I now favour running shorts with a cycle short insert over the Speedo style insert version. Much less crotch rubbing.

Also, neglect your nipples at your peril....

Wise words! The great thing about running is you don't need to worry about much more than that. It's simple, and you can just get out there and run.

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The great thing about the recent running explosion is that there are so many good runs locally which means if you want to do a 10k there’s no need to wait.

On that distance, I’d really recommend the Westonbirt Run for the trees - fast, flat and scenic. Takes place in April I think. Also good is Two Tunnels 10k round Twerton - really bizarre running in blazing heat then a cool down through the tunnels for a couple of k.

Not done a Marathon yet - keep applying to London but never successful. Done 1:38 for a half and 43mins for a 10k - not getting faster than that at early 40’s! Best invention ever is Strava - the tracking, segment achievements and badges get you out day after day - should hit just short of 3000k this year and it’s mainly due to challenging myself through that.

And Brooks. More than worth it. Wore Adidas for years and the difference is insane as to how good Ghosts are.

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I hate running with a passion but enjoy taking part in events. 

I've done 3 halfs and a 10k.

I'm always near the back but for me the achievement is finishing the race, for me it's all about the bling and that sheer adrenaline rush of crossing that finishing line.

I am signed up to do the Dublin Marathon this year, my first marathon, however I am pulling out. I started my training well and did the Bristol 10k, I then switched to the gym and the treadmill to continue my training for convenience reasons, I did the Swansea half and had real trouble completing it due to having extreme pain in my calves. I think it was all the pounding the treadmill that did them in.

I'm devastated to be pulling out as I feel like a failure but the Swansea half had really affected me as a runner I spent a little while running with during the race passed away before the finish line. That has made me realise just how dangerous competing is and it's put me off for the time being.

It took my calves a good 6-8 weeks for them to recover so I decided it would be wise to not do the Dublin Marathon and give myself a full year to prepare for it.

Was hoping to get a London place but again no luck in the ballot.

This year has been an incredibly tough year for me, I've had numerous bereavements, life has changed forever but doing the Bristol 10k and Swansea half really did help, it gave me something to focus on and for me it was a part of the grieving process. 

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25 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

I hate running with a passion but enjoy taking part in events. 

I've done 3 halfs and a 10k.

I'm always near the back but for me the achievement is finishing the race, for me it's all about the bling and that sheer adrenaline rush of crossing that finishing line.

I am signed up to do the Dublin Marathon this year, my first marathon, however I am pulling out. I started my training well and did the Bristol 10k, I then switched to the gym and the treadmill to continue my training for convenience reasons, I did the Swansea half and had real trouble completing it due to having extreme pain in my calves. I think it was all the pounding the treadmill that did them in.

I'm devastated to be pulling out as I feel like a failure but the Swansea half had really affected me as a runner I spent a little while running with during the race passed away before the finish line. That has made me realise just how dangerous competing is and it's put me off for the time being.

It took my calves a good 6-8 weeks for them to recover so I decided it would be wise to not do the Dublin Marathon and give myself a full year to prepare for it.

Was hoping to get a London place but again no luck in the ballot.

This year has been an incredibly tough year for me, I've had numerous bereavements, life has changed forever but doing the Bristol 10k and Swansea half really did help, it gave me something to focus on and for me it was a part of the grieving process. 

Sorry to hear about all the crap you've had to deal with mate. 

Running can be quite punishing, but it really is good for the mind as well as the body. 

I know what you mean about the silverware! That moment of crossing the line, and then having the memento to remind you of what you've achieved is definitely a big motivator for me. 

I certainly don't always enjoy running, but part of the appeal is that battle against the body's resistance. It's like a fight sometimes.

You should definitely to a marathon next year. Managing the calf problem will be a challenge though.

You might have to take the training quite seriously and do proper warm ups and warm downs, and regular exercises ( all the stuff I really should do, but don't have time for, then complain when my tendons get niggles!).

The calf exercise I know about is the one where you stand on a stair, facing the stair case and lower your heel up and down of the edge of the step. You feel it working.

Imagine how you'll feel when you get 26.2 under your belt!

Re Swansea half - that was my PB so has a place in my heart. Funny how your experience will have given you a very different feeling for it!

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Jeeeeez some of you guys are serious runners! I'm aiming for the Bristol Half next year having done the 10k for the last 5yrs.

Since starting from literally zero running  & then doing the Couch to 5k program I have pretty much every year worked towards the 10k in May and then given myself a break. Most years that break has been until about 2 months before the next year's 10k! This year, however, I decided I would start to take it more seriously and I have continued running throughout the year having kicked off on New Year's Day with a few kilometres around Greville Smyth Park. 

As someone who'd never really taken it too seriously I set myself a target to run per month and am pleased to say I have met or exceeded it every month since. 

I certainly notice the positive impact is has had on my mental, as well as my physical, health. And it's a great way to get to listen to your music more often than you might otherwise have chance to! There's some decent spotify playlists I use but any recommendations welcomed. Oh, and I prefer New Balance running shoes! 

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32 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

Jeeeeez some of you guys are serious runners! I'm aiming for the Bristol Half next year having done the 10k for the last 5yrs.

Since starting from literally zero running  & then doing the Couch to 5k program I have pretty much every year worked towards the 10k in May and then given myself a break. Most years that break has been until about 2 months before the next year's 10k! This year, however, I decided I would start to take it more seriously and I have continued running throughout the year having kicked off on New Year's Day with a few kilometres around Greville Smyth Park. 

As someone who'd never really taken it too seriously I set myself a target to run per month and am pleased to say I have met or exceeded it every month since. 

I certainly notice the positive impact is has had on my mental, as well as my physical, health. And it's a great way to get to listen to your music more often than you might otherwise have chance to! There's some decent spotify playlists I use but any recommendations welcomed. Oh, and I prefer New Balance running shoes! 

Sounds like you're well on the way to your first Half. It'll be a sweet feeling when you cross the line for that one.

I've actually started listening to podcasts when I run. I even sometimes listen to running podcasts when running!

Have you considered joining a running club? Isn't there a Southville one? I was initially dead against running with other people but since joining one last year I've learnt a lot and enjoy the bants.

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