red84 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Politics and race - how to divide everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Tommy Robinson isn’t a racist. Is Islam a race? Islam is a religion and doesn’t have anything to do with race. Seems like everyone here doesn’t know what a race is. He’s an islamaphobe, not a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Tommy Robinson isn’t a racist. Is Islam a race? Islam is a religion and doesn’t have anything to do with race. Seems like everyone here doesn’t know what a race is. He’s an islamaphobe, not a racist. Since when were they exclusive of each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, ciderwithtommy said: Since when were they exclusive of each other? Because race and religion aren’t the same thing what so ever? Followers of islam come from all races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: You can be highly educated and work in cutting-edge technology and be working class. @RedM makes clear a large number of today's travelling City fans feel (like me) that "small town in Asia" isn't something we should be singing. It's totally cringeworthy. If you don't, we'll agree to differ. Fair enough,agree to disagree,a large number were against it but the majority sang it as others have said and can’t help but feel until the pathetic politicians do what the public voted for there is going to be a lot of angry young men and it could potentially get worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, forestofdean said: is tommy robinson and his people any different to the fla which many are are fans where the badges with pride There is a thread on the FLA in the politics section. Tommy Robinson is no longer part of an organisation but the FLA do clearly share many similarities with the early EDL. One being they have multi racial members/supporters and include people of differing faiths. That entirely runs in the face of left wings groups and the main stream media who accuse the FLA and Tommy Robinson supporters of overt racism, fascism and of being nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Because race and religion aren’t the same thing what so ever? Followers of islam come from all races. Cheers for that, but not what I asked was it? I asked since when is did being an Islamaphobe stop you from also being racist? Couldn’t someone be both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Tommy Robinson is a ********. Some will agree with his views, others won’t. That’s entirely a matter of choice. But football fans singing it is totally irrelevant to the game and whoever did so is, in my own opinion, a ******** too. Singing Tommy Robinson’s name is, in and of itself, not racist. However, those singing it would be totally aware of the context in which they were singing it - which is of a racial content. Therefore, those singing it are idiots and yes, racist. Anyone trying to defend these idiots is, well....enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED LAND MAN Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Depressing enough result without having to hear our very own fans chanting this utter little wrong-uns name .city were always anti racist back in the day ,there are some rovers skinheads who sold the bulldog outside the tote end who could confirm this and they weren’t even playing us that day .f.... tiny tommy and f.... racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Chuck it Harry you know who they are you drink with then in the Spanish Lions and Masonic. You will say nothing to their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Tommy Robinson is a ********. Some will agree with his views, others won’t. That’s entirely a matter of choice. But football fans singing it is totally irrelevant to the game and whoever did so is, in my own opinion, a ******** too. Singing Tommy Robinson’s name is, in and of itself, not racist. However, those singing it would be totally aware of the context in which they were singing it - which is of a racial content. Therefore, those singing it are idiots and yes, racist. Anyone trying to defend these idiots is, well....enough said. Don't think it's as simple as that. They sang a blokes name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cowshed said: There is a thread on the FLA in the politics section. Tommy Robinson is no longer part of an organisation but the FLA do clearly share many similarities with the early EDL. One being they have multi racial members/supporters and include people of differing faiths. That entirely runs in the face of left wings groups and the main stream media who accuse the FLA and Tommy Robinson supporters of overt racism, fascism and of being nazis. Wow , for a poster who I enjoy reading regarding your opinions on football and tactics etc and seem pretty educated.....this is embarrassing. Unless hopefully I've read this wrong ? To defend FLA and Tommy Robinson supporter's is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ciderwithtommy said: Cheers for that, but not what I asked was it? I asked since when is did being an Islamaphobe stop you from also being racist? Couldn’t someone be both? They could, but there is no evidence to suggest Tommy Robinson has ever been racist, honestly there is nothing online to suggest he’s ever been prejudice to any race. He criticises a religion because of what he’s experienced when growing up in Luton and they are some pretty horrific things. If you watched his Oxford University speech (it’s on youtube), maybe you’d see a different perspective on certain issues that need addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: They could, but there is no evidence to suggest Tommy Robinson has ever been racist, honestly there is nothing online to suggest he’s ever been prejudice to any race. He criticises a religion because of what he’s experienced when growing up in Luton and they are some pretty horrific things. If you watched his Oxford University speech (it’s on youtube), maybe you’d see a different perspective on certain issues that need addressing. Brain washed....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: They could, but there is no evidence to suggest Tommy Robinson has ever been racist, honestly there is nothing online to suggest he’s ever been prejudice to any race. He criticises a religion because of what he’s experienced when growing up in Luton and they are some pretty horrific things. If you watched his Oxford University speech (it’s on youtube), maybe you’d see a different perspective on certain issues that need addressing. So claiming people should be deported because of their race isn’t showing prejudice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: So claiming people should be deported because of their race isn’t showing prejudice? Weirdly enough all the people claiming Tommy Robinson isn't a racist seem to be swerving this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: So claiming people should be deported because of their race isn’t showing prejudice? Please provide me the evidence where this is said? You won’t be able to because what you’ve just said is completely made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spoons said: Brain washed....... Says you? Brained washed by the left news outlets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Luxo Jr. said: Weirdly enough all the people claiming Tommy Robinson isn't a racist seem to be swerving this question. Provide the source of where this was reported then and it will be answered accordingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Please provide me the evidence where this is said? You won’t be able to because what you’ve just said is completely made up. Funnily enough it isn’t made up, here’s the proof http://gal-dem.com/tommy-robinson-is-running-to-be-an-mep-heres-why-you-should-be-very-very-worried/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Three Lions said: Chuck it Harry you know who they are you drink with then in the Spanish Lions and Masonic. You will say nothing to their faces. I’m not sure who you are based on your user name but I assume I know you. I don’t know who these idiots were who were singing this nor whether I know / drink with them at Spanish. What I do know is that I am in a WhatsApp group of about 45 people who all drink with me in Spanish and everyone on that group tonight is saying this is out of order. So I don’t know who the other people I know from Spanish who may be involved in this are, but there’s 45 of them that certainly aren’t involved in this and aren’t very proud of this. I just don’t see why singing Robinson’s name at football is in any way relevant to anything to do with football. Given the context of the racism in football debate this week, don’t you agree that this is rather ill-conceived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Funnily enough it isn’t made up, here’s the proof http://gal-dem.com/tommy-robinson-is-running-to-be-an-mep-heres-why-you-should-be-very-very-worried/ He says ‘adult muslims’, where has he mentioned race? You are another person who doesn’t understand the difference between races and a religion. All my posts still stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Says you? Brained washed by the left news outlets What a come back..... Get back in the museum you dinosaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spoons said: What a come back..... Get back in the museum you dinosaur. Funnily enough i’m 20 and go to university, i just don’t believe what the left media outlets have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Bristolboy_06 said: He says ‘adult muslims’, where has he mentioned race? You are another person who doesn’t understand the difference between races and a religion. All my posts still stand. ‘Every male muslim that has come into the EU over the last 12 months’. Surely you can see that there’s more to that quote than just Islamophobia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Spoons said: Wow , for a poster who I enjoy reading regarding your opinions on football and tactics etc and seem pretty educated.....this is embarrassing. Unless hopefully I've read this wrong ? To defend FLA and Tommy Robinson supporter's is ridiculous. What did I post that was incorrect? The early EDL were multi racial and the EDL did have differing faith divisions. The FLA now the DFLA have organisers of differing races. In the politics thread it is noted that Bristol City FLA supporters attending rallies were not exclusively white. These are facts. So neither can be overtly racist, fascist or Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Bristolboy_06 said: Funnily enough i’m 20 and go to university, i just don’t believe what the left media outlets have to say Hope your parents kept the receipt on your university fees.......need a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said: What did I post that was incorrect? The early EDL were multi racial and the EDL did have differing faith divisions. The FLA now the DFLA have organisers of differing races. In the politics thread it is noted that Bristol City FLA supporters attending rallies were not exclusively white. These are facts. So neither can be overtly racist, fascist or Nazis. Multi racial...no. Tokenism ...yes. And breaking news people that are non white can be racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Surely this should be moved to the non football section mods. I get both sides of the argument, but nothing to do with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: ‘Every male muslim that has come into the EU over the last 12 months’. Surely you can see that there’s more to that quote than just Islamophobia... No i genuinely don’t see it, he highlights the fact it’s ‘male muslims’ , it’s as black and white as that , it’s only people who disagree with him that see it as anything more when it’s not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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