BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Ok i’m from Sweden but i must say that Lee doesnt have a clue how to use Niclas Eliasson! He should be one of the first that Lee puts in the team. Even if we play 3-5-2 he should be in the team! Scandinavian Branch is coming over for the Wigan game, hope to se you all! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Where does he fit in 352? Doesn't have the defensive ability for wing back where Hunt and Rowe have been useful for us and part of the central 3 would restrict his ability to play wide and be where he's most effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 He has the defensive ability, i promise you that. We have played 12 games and he has started 2, do you think thats ok? Dont we want to win the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Palmer, Odowda, defensiv? Palmer often sleeps with ball and position, Odowda no end product. For me Eliasson should start, he is creative, go forwards and are no safeplayer. Maybe Im a dinousarie but the ball has to go forward. We have a player and we dont use him. When we had the very very bad run people wanted LJ out. One of few that backed him here. But in the case of Eliasson i have a big ? how LJ is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Tend to agree. Always been good when used and not getting a fair crack of the whip. I’d use him above COD every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 6 hours ago, BCFC OF SWEDEN said: Dont we want to win the games? We do, we want to win them. Promise. Trouble is, we don't want to lose them either, probably a bit more than we want to win them, and so the things - real or imagined - we fear might cause us to lose games loom larger in the mind and impact selection than the things that might help us win some games. It has ever been thus, mucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 And when he does play I’d prefer if he was out on the left than the right! He’ll end up wanting to leave soon anyway, heard he may have asked to go in the summer because there were a few offers in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Is he out of contract at the end of this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Maybe swapping out Palmer for Eliasson wouldn’t be such a bad idea, I don’t think Diedhiou and Palmer click at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Eliasson is a one of our best outlets when we need to change things. Although he's had relatively few chances to play a full match, he never seems to have the same impact when he plays from the start. When he's named in the first eleven he settles into 'just another player on the pitch' mode. He needs to use the chances he does get to prove to LJ that he's going to run and create for the whole match. Agree with comments above, he's a much better player for us than O'Dowda. I wish we had not given him a new contract. Several years of indifferent displays with glimpses of brilliance and now just looks like he doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 The only way to play Eliasson is to play 4-3-3 instead of 5-3-2. This should still be reasonably sound defensively and, at the same time, provide some attacking flair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 A classic case of needing to concentrate on what a player can do rather than what he can’t. The amount of luxury players we’ve persisted with carrying over the years (Tomlin, Paterson and Palmer instantly spring to mind and that’s just recently) and we’ve got a guy here who literally creates 2/3 proper goalscoring chances EVERY time he plays and he can’t get in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Isn’t he out of contract this year? Could see him leaving on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Xiled said: Eliasson is a one of our best outlets when we need to change things. Although he's had relatively few chances to play a full match, he never seems to have the same impact when he plays from the start. When he's named in the first eleven he settles into 'just another player on the pitch' mode. He needs to use the chances he does get to prove to LJ that he's going to run and create for the whole match Think this is a bit unfair. He's started 2 games this season and set up goals in the first half of them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 He can't play in a 3-5-2, but how about a 3-4-3? Thinking of Costa and Cavaleiro at Wolves most notably. Could even try something inverted eg Brownhill on right and Eliasson on left in a 3-4-3/3-4-2-1, so we're less outnumbered centrally when it comes to those phases. Brownhill has played on the right before after all, would also enable us to start all 3 of Brownhill, Nagy and Massengo. Agreed @pongo88 my favoured shape too, probably would best help us to accommodate Eliasson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Roe said: Think this is a bit unfair. He's started 2 games this season and set up goals in the first half of them both. But he sets up goals as a sub. Don't get me wrong, I rate him really highly but I haven't seen enough in his 90 minute games to say he must start. That said, the same argument applies to other names in the first eleven. It probably explains why LJ rarely names the same team for consecutive matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, marcofisher said: Isn’t he out of contract this year? Could see him leaving on a free. Club has a year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 hours ago, The Journalist said: A classic case of needing to concentrate on what a player can do rather than what he can’t. The amount of luxury players we’ve persisted with carrying over the years (Tomlin, Paterson and Palmer instantly spring to mind and that’s just recently) and we’ve got a guy here who literally creates 2/3 proper goalscoring chances EVERY time he plays and he can’t get in the team. I wouldn't say Pato is a luxury as he works so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Tend to agree. Always been good when used and not getting a fair crack of the whip. I’d use him above COD every day of the week. Definately can cross a ball and with regular game time would be more consistant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Semenyo and Eliasson either side of Diedhiou would be nice. 433 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Semenyo is not good enough (yet anyway) needs to go to league one on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Semenyo and Eliasson either side of Diedhiou would be nice. 433 You'd drop Weimann? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Semenyo and Eliasson either side of Diedhiou would be nice. 433 LJ will never drop Weimann. Eliasson simply has to play. I have been saying all season how it's crazy a player that good can't get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: LJ will never drop Weimann. Eliasson simply has to play. I have been saying all season how it's crazy a player that good can't get in. Only if he fits the system though, doesn't weaken us in other areas? It's asymmetrical but I'd be interested to see how a theoretical front 3 of Palmer, Eliasson and Weimann could link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Semenyo and Eliasson either side of Diedhiou would be nice. 433 Not great when tracking back, would be a total disaster defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: You'd drop Weimann? Probably wouldn’t play that 433 but I’d be thinking about dropping Weimann for one of our next two games yeah. Would like to see Diedhiou and Semenyo at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Only if he fits the system though, doesn't weaken us in other areas? It's asymmetrical but I'd be interested to see how a theoretical front 3 of Palmer, Eliasson and Weimann could link. I would go 442 on Wednesday. Weimann and Rodri up top who can both drop back and form a 6 or go wide and our wide men can come more narrow to tighten up the midfield. It is a shame Nagy is still not fit. I would drop Palmer for this one. I think the problem with those 3 you say up top is it's a bit lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: I would go 442 on Wednesday. Weimann and Rodri up top who can both drop back and form a 6 or go wide and our wide men can come more narrow to tighten up the midfield. It is a shame Nagy is still not fit. I would drop Palmer for this one. I think the problem with those 3 you say up top is it's a bit lightweight. 4-4-2 attacking at home...and Charlton with their counterattacking ways could run through us. However yes, when you explain that 2nd bit Rodri and Weimann are particularly flexible- Nagy's return would help a great deal. Though I suppose that a winger and a full back as direct oppositon could help to negate this...do Charlton emphasise their play out wide or central more though? As for my suggestion, yeah this is true but also Elisson, Palmer and Weimann can drop into a strikerless formation too which can help to form say a 4-3-3-0, yours sounds like more of a 4-4-2-0. Would it be that strike pair with O'Dowda and Eliasson wide Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Probably wouldn’t play that 433 but I’d be thinking about dropping Weimann for one of our next two games yeah. Would like to see Diedhiou and Semenyo at some point. Don't think Semenyo ready overall, though that said away to QPR he did quite well IIRC? Got an assist and seemed sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: 4-4-2 attacking at home...and Charlton with their counterattacking ways could run through us. However yes, when you explain that 2nd bit Rodri and Weimann are particularly flexible- Nagy's return would help a great deal. Though I suppose that a winger and a full back as direct oppositon could help to negate this...do Charlton emphasise their play out wide or central more though? As for my suggestion, yeah this is true but also Elisson, Palmer and Weimann can drop into a strikerless formation too which can help to form say a 4-3-3-0, yours sounds like more of a 4-4-2-0. Would it be that strike pair with O'Dowda and Eliasson wide Wednesday? Yes, I am thinking O'Dowda right and tucking inside a bit, Eliasson left. And people might see this as a strange move but I would go with Pereira at left back due to his pace on Leko. I don't trust Rowe up against Leko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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