jayjay Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Or we will up our game as injured first teamers return and we bring in one or two quality additions in January. Or will that simply give Mr Johnson more options with which to tinker? It would appear that the more players he has, the more uncertain he becomes as to what is his best side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: 5th is a total false position and not just because of our extra game. We have had a run of easy games and haven’t cashed in. We’ll start drifting down the table now as we start playing better teams We are 5th because of the points we have and nothing else. Its how leagues work and unless you've got a crystal ball how do you know we'll slide down the table ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Vincent Vega said: We are 5th because of the points we have and nothing else. Its how leagues work and unless you've got a crystal ball how do you know we'll slide down the table ? Some people know things Lee Johnson doesn’t.....obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Or we will up our game as injured first teamers return and we bring in one or two quality additions in January. One of them did return yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: We are 5th because of the points we have and nothing else. Its how leagues work and unless you've got a crystal ball how do you know we'll slide down the table ? It’s called a prediction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Come on get a grip we have only lost 2 games. We are in a strong position at the moment. There are players coming back from injury so room to improve. Things can only get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: It’s called a prediction Cheer up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: 5th is a total false position and not just because of our extra game. We have had a run of easy games and haven’t cashed in. We’ll start drifting down the table now as we start playing better teams You make that sound like a fact as that’s more of a statement than a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: How many of those have we messed up? Seems a lot and I don’t think we’ve come back many times from 2 down to offset it...I’m sure someone out there has the stats on this... For me it appears that LJ thinks its job done when we're ahead and then tries to shore things up. How often do we go 2 up and then press on to score 4 or 5. That doesn't happen with LJs teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: I’m not interested in that - I’m talking about 2 goal leads thrown away by LJ during his time here. Interesting perspective, so lay the blame squarely at LJ’s door..! Whilst ignoring all the positive things that have happened during his time here..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I see The Gas are currently leading away to Rochdale... They're sure to win this one after going 2 nil up inside the first 15mins.... OK as we all know Rovers aren't exactly a very professional outfit but never the less it's very unlikely as a pro team to throw away a two goal advantage, three points to The Gas! Its hard to imagine any pro team being incompetent enough to throw away such a lead on the road, nah, it'll never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, WhistleHappy said: I see The Gas are currently leading away to Rochdale... They're sure to win this one after going 2 nil up inside the first 15mins.... OK as we all know Rovers aren't exactly a very professional outfit but never the less it's very unlikely as a pro team to throw away a two goal advantage, three points to The Gas! Its hard to imagine any pro team being incompetent enough to throw away such a lead on the road, nah, it'll never happen. You make it sound as though we are the only team to have been pegged back from being 2-0 up. It happens regularly. Get over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Interesting perspective, so lay the blame squarely at LJ’s door..! Whilst ignoring all the positive things that have happened during his time here..! You have misunderstood me - I’m not an LJ out or hater. I’m just wondering what the stats are cos there seems to be a high amount of two goal or more leads thrown away compared to other managers. My view on LJ is he is a good manager who has had a bit of back luck this season with injuries. He seems to have addressed the losing runs issue . I’m hopeful he can get us to the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 11 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: How many of those have we messed up? Seems a lot and I don’t think we’ve come back many times from 2 down to offset it...I’m sure someone out there has the stats on this... Given that Strictly's on the tele, I looked it up on Soccerbase and the answer is eight times. 1 November 2019: Barnsley (a) - 2-0 up, 2-2 28 September 2019: Preston (a) - 2-0 up, 3-3 10 February 2018: Sunderland (h) - 3-0 up, 3-3 18 February 2018: Leeds (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 25 February 2017: Newcastle (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 11 February 2017: Derby (a) 3-0 up, 3-3 2 January 2017: Reading (h) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 13 September 2016: Sheff Weds (a) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, tin said: Given that Strictly's on the tele, I looked it up on Soccerbase and the answer is eight times. 1 November 2019: Barnsley (a) - 2-0 up, 2-2 28 September 2019: Preston (a) - 2-0 up, 3-3 10 February 2018: Sunderland (h) - 3-0 up, 3-3 18 February 2018: Leeds (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 25 February 2017: Newcastle (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 11 February 2017: Derby (a) 3-0 up, 3-3 2 January 2017: Reading (h) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 13 September 2016: Sheff Weds (a) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 Weren't we 2 up at Norwich last season before losing 3-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, downendcity said: Weren't we 2 up at Norwich last season before losing 3-2? Nope. We were 1-0 up, then 2-1 up and lost 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, downendcity said: Weren't we 2 up at Norwich last season before losing 3-2? Nah Norwich equalised then we scored 30 seconds later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, tin said: Nope. We were 1-0 up, then 2-1 up and lost 3-2. 24 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Nah Norwich equalised then we scored 30 seconds later Wasn't absolutely sure, so thanks for the correction guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Anyone know how many times we've been 2 down and rescued a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, tin said: Given that Strictly's on the tele, I looked it up on Soccerbase and the answer is eight times. 1 November 2019: Barnsley (a) - 2-0 up, 2-2 28 September 2019: Preston (a) - 2-0 up, 3-3 10 February 2018: Sunderland (h) - 3-0 up, 3-3 18 February 2018: Leeds (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 25 February 2017: Newcastle (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 11 February 2017: Derby (a) 3-0 up, 3-3 2 January 2017: Reading (h) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 13 September 2016: Sheff Weds (a) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 I was surprised to read this thread because after the game last night I thought to myself we are more likely to come back into a game than lose it from a lead these days. So averaging about 3 a season, hardly an unusually high amount IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Put it this way, if we are 2-0 up it’s much more likely to end 2-1, 2-2, 2-3 than 3-0, 4-0 etc. That’s quite clear throughout LJ’s reign and that is really damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, tin said: Given that Strictly's on the tele, I looked it up on Soccerbase and the answer is eight times. 1 November 2019: Barnsley (a) - 2-0 up, 2-2 28 September 2019: Preston (a) - 2-0 up, 3-3 10 February 2018: Sunderland (h) - 3-0 up, 3-3 18 February 2018: Leeds (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 25 February 2017: Newcastle (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 11 February 2017: Derby (a) 3-0 up, 3-3 2 January 2017: Reading (h) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 13 September 2016: Sheff Weds (a) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 LJ learnt from his Dad! Either that or he still is not up to the job - you pick the best performing players if you are a good head coach, if you are crap at the job you pick your faves and wait until the games gone and send on the players who should have started in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Gakoe said: Anyone know how many times we've been 2 down and rescued a point? Twice under LJ: 11 August 2018: Bolton (a), 2-0 down, 2-2 25 September 2017: Hull (a), 2-0 down, won 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Two nil is always a dodgy score, the team that's winning kind of thinks job done where as the losing team have nothing to lose at that point so in some cases really go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Alessandro said: I was surprised to read this thread because after the game last night I thought to myself we are more likely to come back into a game than lose it from a lead these days. So averaging about 3 a season, hardly an unusually high amount IMO. Not to mention that one time was over three years ago, three were over a bad period almost three years ago and two more were over a difficult period almost two years ago. We did not throwaway a two goal lead at all last season and I think I remember we were one of the better teams in the league at recovering from losing positions. Even with twice this season, we are still talking twice in the last season and a half. In short, you need to stretch your neck a long way back to see any kind of pattern here. So I don’t understand this thread at all. I feel all we have learned is teams occasionally throw away two goal leads and that sometimes includes us. Not much of a revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 02/11/2019 at 09:35, AshtonGreat said: When do we ever bring in quality additions in January? History isn’t obliged to repeat itself . Have we as a club evolved and learned from our past errors ? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshthomson Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 I hate to say it but weren't we 2 up home to Cardiff a couple of years ago and lost 3-2?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 13 hours ago, tin said: Given that Strictly's on the tele, I looked it up on Soccerbase and the answer is eight times. 1 November 2019: Barnsley (a) - 2-0 up, 2-2 28 September 2019: Preston (a) - 2-0 up, 3-3 10 February 2018: Sunderland (h) - 3-0 up, 3-3 18 February 2018: Leeds (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 25 February 2017: Newcastle (a) 2-0 up, 2-2 11 February 2017: Derby (a) 3-0 up, 3-3 2 January 2017: Reading (h) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 13 September 2016: Sheff Weds (a) 2-0 up, lost 3-2 We were also 3-1 and 4-2 up against Hull and drew 5-5, you must have been distracted by Strictly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, tin said: Twice under LJ: 11 August 2018: Bolton (a), 2-0 down, 2-2 25 September 2017: Hull (a), 2-0 down, won 3-2. So basically, as I thought, once we go 2 up there is a chance of blowing it but hardly any chance of coming back from 2 down under LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Alessandro said: I was surprised to read this thread because after the game last night I thought to myself we are more likely to come back into a game than lose it from a lead these days. So averaging about 3 a season, hardly an unusually high amount IMO. I'm pretty sure those are pretty high amounts - once a season sounds about right to me? Maybe from 1-0 down we are better at coming back but certainly not 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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