Up The City! Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 How the hell was that not a penalty? Think the fact Liverpool scored had a big impact on the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Arm was in an unnatural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Up The City! said: How the hell was that not a penalty? Think the fact Liverpool scored had a big impact on the decision. Silva handled it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just scrap it and replay any game where VAR changed the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 I’m glad it wasn’t ruled out as I hate VAR but it must have been a tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 The ref should view the monitor and make that decision not somebody else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Super said: Silva handled it first. Then it's a free kick to Liverpool, you can't play advantage ignore a blatant pen and just let the game cary on. Only 2 decision that can be given there, neither are a goal for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 As it stands, or as its being applied in the Premier League, VAR is not fit for purpose. And it won't be unless a way can be found to make it almost instantaneous, as with goal line technology. In most sports where technology is used it is after the event I. E. Once play has been stopped and where the ball is 'dead'. For example, in Rugby the touch lines, and indeed the player if it contact with the ball, are deemed out of play whereas in football a ball on the line is deemed in play which continues. While the lines are in during tennis most technology decisions are made when the ball has fizzed past an opponent and play has stopped. For me VAR has proved a failure and should cease at the end of the season until it improves. I don't for one minute of course think this will happen, especially when Championship refs have been told to attend VAR training. Not that VAR training will make any difference if they don't know the laws of the game in the first place, like the plonker who disallowed Firmino's 'goal' against Villa when the only part of his body 'offside' was one it is illegal to score with. This only proved that we have to revert to clear daylight before offside can be given. The idea that a player can be offside because he takes a size 11 boot as opposed to a size 9 is patently ridiculous. VAR is not to be used to referee the game but to clear up obvious errors. Accordingly, it should be made clear that the man in the middle of the pitch is in charge and should be able to tell the man in the booth miles from the ground to go forth and multiply, or something politer, if he is content with his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 No penalty given due to Alexander Arnold atm is in a natural position according to PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, wayne allisons tongues said: No penalty given due to Alexander Arnold atm is in a natural position according to PL I think I agree with that - they are down by his side and I don’t think you have to put arms behind your back. Its certainly not a deliberate handball which I guess would be a ‘clear and obvious’ error missed by the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said: No penalty given due to Alexander Arnold atm is in a natural position according to PL Absolute bullshit is that a natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 VAR is just showing up how truly clueless the refs are, they can’t say they didn’t see it anymore. That is as blatant handball as you will ever see aside from a dive on the goalline and the justification of ‘it was a natural position’ is absolutely farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Alex_BCFC said: I think I agree with that - they are down by his side and I don’t think you have to put arms behind your back. Its certainly not a deliberate handball which I guess would be a ‘clear and obvious’ error missed by the referee. His arm is outstretched deffo not by his side. As they’ve just said in the studio, next week that’s a pen somewhere else. Personally think VAR ref bottled it due to the goal straight after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 For me it's a marginal call and not as clear and obvious error. I would be appealing for it if I was the attacker but would also be extremely disappointed if it were given as the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 I was under the impression that the new law states that a team cannot score if the balls hits an attackers arm (even accidentally) so what are MC moaning about? VAR really is all over the place and it's gone beyond a joke tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Defo pen for city. The VAR people seem to be trying to outdo themselves every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Even without the VAR the ref missed 2 handballs from 5 feet away. Either incompetent or too scared to make a decision and hope the VAR will bail them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 3-0 Will Pep turn to Jesus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: VAR is just showing up how truly clueless the refs are, they can’t say they didn’t see it anymore. That is as blatant handball as you will ever see aside from a dive on the goalline and the justification of ‘it was a natural position’ is absolutely farcical. Was it a "John Terry - making himself bigger" stance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Sterling pushed in the back... no pen. what a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Also missed Sterling elbowing Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: I was under the impression that the new law states that a team cannot score if the balls hits an attackers arm (even accidentally) so what are MC moaning about? VAR really is all over the place and it's gone beyond a joke tbh. Your impression is correct. It is a offence. If the ball strikes a defenders arm it has to be a deliberate action. In this occurrence VAR is correct. It does highlight how complex the hand ball rule has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: I was under the impression that the new law states that a team cannot score if the balls hits an attackers arm (even accidentally) so what are MC moaning about? VAR really is all over the place and it's gone beyond a joke tbh. .....yes...........but......no............but according to the statement given to MOTD, Dasilva's handball would only be a handball offence had Man City scored from the incident. As they did not, then Dasilva's handball wasn't a handball and was ignored when it came to considering TAA's handball, even though TAA's handball ( that wasn't handball according to VAR) was directly caused by Dasilva's handball, which, of course, was not actually a handball because Man City didn't go on to score from it. You'll thank me for taking to time to clear that up for you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, downendcity said: .....yes...........but......no............but according to the statement given to MOTD, Dasilva's handball would only be a handball offence had Man City scored from the incident. As they did not, then Dasilva's handball wasn't a handball and was ignored when it came to considering TAA's handball, even though TAA's handball ( that wasn't handball according to VAR) was directly caused by Dasilva's handball, which, of course, was not actually a handball because Man City didn't go on to score from it. You'll thank me for taking to time to clear that up for you all! Dasilva? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Super said: Dasilva? Whoops - got the proper City on the brain today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Premier league meeting involving VAR today, David Gold on SSN just now saying he won't support the use of screens pitch side as to him its not right that a referee whose been running around for an hour has to then run over to check a screen pitch side...... No really that is actually what he said..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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