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7 minutes ago, RedDave said:

I thought the Man City player was ball to hand. The current rule seems to say that TAA is handball as a longer distance. 

The rule is nonsense though and needs to be changed, as do many rules now 

Yep, but the rules now state (don’t they?) that if it hits an attacking player’s hand in the build up to a goal it’s a free-kick, irrespective of deliberate, ball to hand, whatever.

Its all crap at the end of the day.

Liverpool supporter or not, we should be talking about Fabinho’s screamer...but the events 20 seconds before take over.

The Prem needs to take a long, hard look at itself.

The technology / cameras aren’t precise enough to determine offside from the point of contact of the pass.

Its a mess.

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On 09/11/2019 at 16:14, wendyredredrobin said:

2 hours between the Baadiff game and the L'pool v Man C game, so hopin er indoors allows me to watch both.  It will probably cost me dinner and a nice bottle of wine though.

Hope you got a result.

To be fair, you going to the pub for a nice lunch and a bottle of red probably gave her the 2 hours she needed to finish the cleaning and do the ironing.

Don't see how she could moan about that.

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4 minutes ago, RedDave said:

I thought the Man City player was ball to hand. The current rule seems to say that TAA is handball as a longer distance. 

The rule is nonsense though and needs to be changed, as do many rules now 

The problem is that the administrators have interfered too much with the laws and their interpretation. There is now too much that has become prescriptive, but is still dependant to interpretation,  so my understanding is/was that ball hits the hand in the penalty area with the hand in an unnatural position then it's a penalty. However, someone still has to make a decision on what constitutes an unnatural position and on that count there will probably be as many interpretations as there are unnatural positions - just ask Rudolph!

Also, how can there be a different "rule" applying to handball in the penalty are compared to outside the penalty area. For foul play the interpretation al too often seems the other way around. How many times do we see "fouls" committed in the penalty area with nothing given and the commentators then say "anywhere else on the pitch and that's a foul"? In one of yesterday's prem games the defender , in ushering the ball over the goal line manhandled the attacker violently, pulling him way from the ball - anywhere else on the pitch it would have been a penalty but nothing was given and VAR didn't react.

Yes , we all know that referees made mistakes in the past, but with hindsight those mistakes were part of the game and it was also accepted that referees were human and would make mistakes, no matter how frustrating that was for players, managers and fans.

Now we seem to have arrived at the worst of all worlds, where technology  - that everyone believed  was going to eliminate bad decisions and human error - is now leading to more uncertainty and dissatisfaction with and mistrust of decisions  ( and crucially, the decision making process) than ever before. It's not technology's fault -  it's the fault of the administrators and the interpretation of the laws of the game by the VAR officials.

 

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One common denominator in football:- the team at fault never insist that the other team deserve a penalty and the team claiming a penalty instantly forget all the penalties that they should never have been awarded. Nearly every player in both teams is constantly  claiming for an advantage whether or not they deserve it. Every manager should remember this.

Imagine Preston's disbelief in their next match if they are not awarded q penalty! 

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50 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

The best teams win the title. Can't think of a side who didn't win the title who should have due to a ref decision etc.

Easy to say that but the reality is decisions over the season do not 'even themselves out' and teams can benefit massively or suffer massively because of wrong decisions. Cardiff probably stay up last season had not not had such bad luck with refs.

It's pretty clear United would benefit ridiculously in the Fergie era, this adds many points to their total points in the league. And maybe won cups because of bias decisions that kept them in it. Not saying they weren't a good side, but I think we all know refs were bias.

Now it is Liverpool's turn. Shame.

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