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2 hours ago, Montpelierblue said:

Warnock kept saying last year he bought bobby Reid and Murphy (20 million ish) to have a go in the PL but also to give us  a good option should we go back down. When he played them they did well but he hardly gave them any chances and Reid went to Fulham for 10 million after loan and Murphy has lost it. If we had those two alone and had maybe bought camerasa who was quality instead of flint and the woeful German glatzel (10 million wasted on both instead) I reckon we’d be right up there, partic with a new foreword thinking boss. Instead we are left with poor signing by Neil and a team bereft of confidence.

neil also let Harris going to sheff weds, he had tonnes of pace and is doing very well there. 

So many errors in mgt. it’s why he had to go. 

Please not Neil Harris......??

Wait, have I missed that, Reid has joined Fulham for £10m? I thought it was just a loan?

It was always thought that Reid had made a mistake by joining Cardiff because of Warnock’s ‘footballing style’ not suiting Reid in any way, shape or form, he clearly wasn’t your stereotypical Warnock player.

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19 minutes ago, Tipps69 said:

Wait, have I missed that, Reid has joined Fulham for £10m? I thought it was just a loan?

It was always thought that Reid had made a mistake by joining Cardiff because of Warnock’s ‘footballing style’ not suiting Reid in any way, shape or form, he clearly wasn’t your stereotypical Warnock player.

It’s a loan now but a fee has already been agreed, done deal apparently. Bit gutted about that, don’t think he’s worth 10 million though. I’m hearing lee bowyers name is in the mix heavily now....

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5 minutes ago, Montpelierblue said:

It’s a loan now but a fee has already been agreed, done deal apparently. Bit gutted about that, don’t think he’s worth 10 million though. I’m hearing lee bowyers name is in the mix heavily now....

Reid would strike me as the sort of player that a team rebuilding could certainly build around, I’d certainly prefer to rebuild around him rather than Tomlin, he will produce a lot more anyway.

Would Bowyer coming in have any adverse effect on Bellamy? Surely now is the prime time to promote from within & build for the future (if that’s what Tan really wants)? & could that see the departure of Bellamy if he’s not given the job?

Is the intention to find the replacement ASAP or could they just look for a stopgap until the summer?

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24 minutes ago, Montpelierblue said:

It’s a loan now but a fee has already been agreed, done deal apparently. Bit gutted about that, don’t think he’s worth 10 million though. I’m hearing lee bowyers name is in the mix heavily now....

If they get his form again he'll be worth more than £10m 

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6 hours ago, Robbored said:

No other team have had a patch on the 1970 Brazilians! The best 11 in the history of football according to many,.

And the 1970 England team were probably the best ever  England team too,jumpers for goalposts and all that.

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17 hours ago, Robbored said:

I have met a Holloway twice,.

He’s 100% Bristolian and very proud of it. Likeable guy, amusing and witty. Both were  at a presentation do’s of some sort and he was the guest speaker. 
Chatted afterwards and concluded that he’s a thoroughly decent bloke.

.....even though he said the best City fan is a dead one eh?

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12 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

And the 1970 England team were probably the best ever  England team too,jumpers for goalposts and all that.

Brazil 1970 World Cup Winners

Felix

 Everaldo, Piazza, Carlos Alberto,

Gerson,  Clodoaldo , Tostao, Jairzinho,

Rivelino, Pele.

Their fourth goal against Italy was created by the entire team and voted greatest goal ever scored. Every Brazilian players touched the ball in Its creation.

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3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Brazil 1970 World Cup Winners

Felix

 Everaldo, Piazza, Carlos Alberto,

Gerson,  Clodoaldo , Tostao, Jairzinho,

Rivelino, Pele.

Their fourth goal against Italy was created by the entire team and voted greatest goal ever scored. Every Brazilian players touched the ball in Its creation.

Definitely the best ever.

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2 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

.....even though he said the best City fan is a dead one eh?

I believe at the time he was regularly get vile jibes about his profoundly deaf daughters from city fans but happy to stand corrected.

I think he's a tit incidentally but that was a particularly hateful time between the clubs.

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Rather ironic that his final game was against us of all teams- and the first time we'd beaten a Colin side away in any form since May 2008 and overall in the League, October 1998!

Read that he quit, mutual consent job?

Wonder if he'll retire now- mind you he's already "retired" quite a few times- seem to recall when Sheffield United got relegated on the last day that was it for him!

A bit of fun but I saw this online earlier.

https://www.joe.co.uk/football/neil-warnock-barcelona-football-manager-231381

He seems less objectionable than Hollowhead IMO. Not saying I'm a fan but get the impression that Warnock quite likes us in some ways.

His style? More varied over the years IMO. His QPR that won the Championship were quite good- he got the best out of Taarabt after all and not many can say that! Weren't terrible in the PL either to watch IIRC.

Crystal Palace first time around he brought through quite a lot of youth, possibly had a mix of approaches there,

Sheffield United- solid body of work and a number of youth.

However he seemed to get more reactive in style as he got older, doubled down- though not entirely. Camarasa and Arter are technically sound midfielders- he loaned both as well as Reid last season. Cunningham probably better technically than Bennett.

What surprised me was that having come back down, I thought he would build on things a bit but he did not. You have a squad you took up- you lose the aforementioned Arter and Camarasa, that's a decent chunk of Cardiff's limited craft out the window. Still...

  1. Smithies possibly an upgrade on Etheridge.
  2. Flint in some ways a good addition but aging.
  3. Cunningham an upgrade in a number of ways at LB.
  4. Pack, Bacuna and Vaulks can add to things- maybe Pack, Ralls and Vaulks in front. Bacuna to cover for one of those 2- not the worst!
  5. Hoillett and Murphy flair from the wings.
  6. Reid- play him up front!
  7. Tomlin a wildcard, but seemed to get into better shape this summer.
  8. Madine a good option, useful with Sheffield United last season on loan- at least varied.
  9. Callum Paterson- occasionally flair but at minimum a useful outlet from RB vs more defensive sides.

I actually did think this may form part of his strategy when he signed Smithies, Cunningham, Bacuna, Murphy and Reid in 2018/19- build on the strong foundation with some more footballing ability than 2017/18 and look to return to the PL stronger! Surprised he did not- seemed to double down on the more pragmatic, long ball style.

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4 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

It blows my mind that fully grown adults take comments like that seriously and then hold a grudge over it, do you really think Holloway wishes all City fans dead!  Have a word

What word would you like me to have?  Do you have a list?

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Seems opinion on him is mixed but I've always liked him a bit, definitely plays up for the crowd, media etc and there's not too many like him in football anymore which is a lose. I'd find it fascinating to meet him and have a chat especially when people on here say how nice he is away from football 

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3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Rather ironic that his final game was against us of all teams- and the first time we'd beaten a Colin side away in any form since May 2008 and overall in the League, October 1998!

Read that he quit, mutual consent job?

Wonder if he'll retire now- mind you he's already "retired" quite a few times- seem to recall when Sheffield United got relegated on the last day that was it for him!

A bit of fun but I saw this online earlier.

https://www.joe.co.uk/football/neil-warnock-barcelona-football-manager-231381

He seems less objectionable than Hollowhead IMO. Not saying I'm a fan but get the impression that Warnock quite likes us in some ways.

His style? More varied over the years IMO. His QPR that won the Championship were quite good- he got the best out of Taarabt after all and not many can say that! Weren't terrible in the PL either to watch IIRC.

Crystal Palace first time around he brought through quite a lot of youth, possibly had a mix of approaches there,

Sheffield United- solid body of work and a number of youth.

However he seemed to get more reactive in style as he got older, doubled down- though not entirely. Camarasa and Arter are technically sound midfielders- he loaned both as well as Reid last season. Cunningham probably better technically than Bennett.

What surprised me was that having come back down, I thought he would build on things a bit but he did not. You have a squad you took up- you lose the aforementioned Arter and Camarasa, that's a decent chunk of Cardiff's limited craft out the window. Still...

  1. Smithies possibly an upgrade on Etheridge.
  2. Flint in some ways a good addition but aging.
  3. Cunningham an upgrade in a number of ways at LB.
  4. Pack, Bacuna and Vaulks can add to things- maybe Pack, Ralls and Vaulks in front. Bacuna to cover for one of those 2- not the worst!
  5. Hoillett and Murphy flair from the wings.
  6. Reid- play him up front!
  7. Tomlin a wildcard, but seemed to get into better shape this summer.
  8. Madine a good option, useful with Sheffield United last season on loan- at least varied.
  9. Callum Paterson- occasionally flair but at minimum a useful outlet from RB vs more defensive sides.

I actually did think this may form part of his strategy when he signed Smithies, Cunningham, Bacuna, Murphy and Reid in 2018/19- build on the strong foundation with some more footballing ability than 2017/18 and look to return to the PL stronger! Surprised he did not- seemed to double down on the more pragmatic, long ball style.

Reid isn’t at Cardiff...

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11 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

Unless I am wrong his position is a bit like Patto. Loan with a view to permanency so technically still a Cardiff player. 

Pato was never a Cardiff player........and Reid is technically a Cardiff player but on loan with his old mate Joe Bryan at Fulham.

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28 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Reid isn’t at Cardiff...

Ha!

Your,  how shall I put this, renowned attention to detail surpasses itself!

Well aware that Reid is not technically at Cardiff.  Fulham on loan. Cunningham on loan at Blackburn too- point I was making which you well know being that he could perhaps have used these players to look to build a platform to come back stronger.  

Certainly a stronger squad in many ways than they  had 2 years ago! Saw similarities with Burnley tbh.

Happily he did not! 

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4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Rather ironic that his final game was against us of all teams- and the first time we'd beaten a Colin side away in any form since May 2008 and overall in the League, October 1998!

Read that he quit, mutual consent job?

Wonder if he'll retire now- mind you he's already "retired" quite a few times- seem to recall when Sheffield United got relegated on the last day that was it for him!

A bit of fun but I saw this online earlier.

https://www.joe.co.uk/football/neil-warnock-barcelona-football-manager-231381

He seems less objectionable than Hollowhead IMO. Not saying I'm a fan but get the impression that Warnock quite likes us in some ways.

His style? More varied over the years IMO. His QPR that won the Championship were quite good- he got the best out of Taarabt after all and not many can say that! Weren't terrible in the PL either to watch IIRC.

Crystal Palace first time around he brought through quite a lot of youth, possibly had a mix of approaches there,

Sheffield United- solid body of work and a number of youth.

However he seemed to get more reactive in style as he got older, doubled down- though not entirely. Camarasa and Arter are technically sound midfielders- he loaned both as well as Reid last season. Cunningham probably better technically than Bennett.

What surprised me was that having come back down, I thought he would build on things a bit but he did not. You have a squad you took up- you lose the aforementioned Arter and Camarasa, that's a decent chunk of Cardiff's limited craft out the window. Still...

  1. Smithies possibly an upgrade on Etheridge.
  2. Flint in some ways a good addition but aging.
  3. Cunningham an upgrade in a number of ways at LB.
  4. Pack, Bacuna and Vaulks can add to things- maybe Pack, Ralls and Vaulks in front. Bacuna to cover for one of those 2- not the worst!
  5. Hoillett and Murphy flair from the wings.
  6. Reid- play him up front!
  7. Tomlin a wildcard, but seemed to get into better shape this summer.
  8. Madine a good option, useful with Sheffield United last season on loan- at least varied.
  9. Callum Paterson- occasionally flair but at minimum a useful outlet from RB vs more defensive sides.

I actually did think this may form part of his strategy when he signed Smithies, Cunningham, Bacuna, Murphy and Reid in 2018/19- build on the strong foundation with some more footballing ability than 2017/18 and look to return to the PL stronger! Surprised he did not- seemed to double down on the more pragmatic, long ball style.

You don’t half know a lot about Cardiff city, are you a secret bluebird?

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27 minutes ago, Montpelierblue said:

You don’t half know a lot about Cardiff city, are you a secret bluebird?

If you think he knows a lot about Cardiff, don’t get him started on Bristol City Supporter Liaison Officer’s!

That could be his specialist subject if he ever appeared on Mastermind!?

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