spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 ....with Korey and Nagy back from injury, and Famara also available again...and DaSilva, Hunt and Wright all to come back and even Szmodics being dropped, it certainly gives LJ a major headache as to who he leaves out of the match day squad. Looking at Sunday's squad, you wonder how it will all work. With LJ preferring 352 and 3412 it will certainly be interesting to see who he trys or not to shoehorn players in. How do you fit Nagy, Massengo, Smith and Rowe into the matchday Squad? The one player I feel who might miss out even more is Eliasson. 1Daniel Bentley 6Nathan Baker 22Tomas Kalas 29Ashley Williams 32Pedro Pereira 11Callum O'Dowda 25Tommy Rowe 4Ádám Nagy 8Josh Brownhill 15Marley Watkins 14Andreas Weimann Substitutes 31Rodri 23Taylor Moore 18Antoine Semenyo 33Niki Mäenpää 45Kasey Palmer 42Han-Noah Massengo 19Niclas Eliasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I'm sure it's a darn sight better than a list of injuries headache! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 would think Semenyo and Watkins would be under most threat near term with Famara back for Forest and possibly Korey Smith. Nice headache to have though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Frenchay Red said: I'm sure it's a darn sight better than a list of injuries headache! In theory yes...however if everyone is fit, you know how easy it is to fiddle too much. It's a bit of a catch 22. Do you have a game plan and have players on the bench that are like for like, or players that offer something different? Certainly fun choosing a team from a fully fit squad. With everyone at their best I'd have... ______________Bentley_____________ ______Kalas___Williams___Baker____ Pedro__________Nagy_______DaSilva _____Brownhill________Odowda_____ ___________________Palmer________ __________Weimann_______________ 1 Niki 2 Moore 3 Massengo 4 Rodri 5 Rowe 6 Smith 7 Famara Taking that Massengo would qualify as the U21 'home grown'. If not...the Semenyo has to be in the subs. That leaves Hunt, Wright, Szmodics, Watkins and Eliasson not even in the Squad Fun picking indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Semenyo has to stay in as the club developed player (if HNM is here next season I think he will then qualify). I would leave Rodri out given that he isn't likely to be here much longer. He doesn't seem to be an option LJ is using currently so why leave him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 LJs key players will be Bentley, Dasilva, Kalas, Brownhill and Weimann imo. All the rest may be rotated a bit imo. Maybe Williams will be key player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, spudski said: In theory yes...however if everyone is fit, you know how easy it is to fiddle too much. It's a bit of a catch 22. Do you have a game plan and have players on the bench that are like for like, or players that offer something different? Certainly fun choosing a team from a fully fit squad. With everyone at their best I'd have... ______________Bentley_____________ ______Kalas___Williams___Baker____ Pedro__________Nagy_______DaSilva _____Brownhill________Odowda_____ ___________________Palmer________ __________Weimann_______________ 1 Niki 2 Moore 3 Massengo 4 Rodri 5 Rowe 6 Smith 7 Famara Taking that Massengo would qualify as the U21 'home grown'. If not...the Semenyo has to be in the subs. That leaves Hunt, Wright, Szmodics, Watkins and Eliasson not even in the Squad Fun picking indeed... With all those players available - I think I leave selecting the matchday squad to LJ.......... Fact is that Bentley part I wouldn’t know which players should be in the matchday squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bentley hunt. Kalas. Williams. Dasilva Nagy. Smith brownhill. Palmer. O’dowda Weimann Nikki rowe fam eliasson baker perairra semenyo going on everyone being fit apart from afobe who probably won’t be back. very difficult to pick , there’s a case for Watkins in the squad as he plays a couple of positions. Semenyo would go on loan ideally but with home grown rule he has to be on the bench . Good luck LJ , that’s with Taylor Moore not even on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: Bentley hunt. Kalas. Williams. Dasilva Nagy. Smith brownhill. Palmer. O’dowda Weimann Nikki rowe fam eliasson baker perairra semenyo going on everyone being fit apart from afobe who probably won’t be back. very difficult to pick , there’s a case for Watkins in the squad as he plays a couple of positions. Semenyo would go on loan ideally but with home grown rule he has to be on the bench . Good luck LJ , that’s with Taylor Moore not even on the bench And you've dropped Massengo completely...just goes to show how hard it could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, spudski said: And you've dropped Massengo completely...just goes to show how hard it could be Bloody hell forgot about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: With all those players available - I think I leave selecting the matchday squad to LJ.......... Fact is that Bentley part I wouldn’t know which players should be in the matchday squad. Of course we do...do you never pick a team in your head then RR. Thought most fans do...I know it's the main topic of conversation in the pub before KO...then an hour before KO we all look at Twitter and see we've all chosen wrong :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Might be a couple going out in January . Szmodics on loan possibly , Taylor and pato staying where they are. Bailey wright might go as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: LJs key players will be Bentley, Dasilva, Kalas, Brownhill and Weimann imo. All the rest may be rotated a bit imo. Maybe Williams will be key player too. I'd add Nagy to that list once he's back to full fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, JonDolman said: LJs key players will be Bentley, Dasilva, Kalas, Brownhill and Weimann imo. All the rest may be rotated a bit imo. Maybe Williams will be key player too. And Nagy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Robbored said: With all those players available - I think I leave selecting the matchday squad to LJ.......... Fact is that Bentley part I wouldn’t know which players should be in the matchday squad. Yeah, we probably shouldn't bother discussing anything then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, spudski said: ....with Korey and Nagy back from injury, and Famara also available again...and DaSilva, Hunt and Wright all to come back and even Szmodics being dropped, it certainly gives LJ a major headache as to who he leaves out of the match day squad. Looking at Sunday's squad, you wonder how it will all work. With LJ preferring 352 and 3412 it will certainly be interesting to see who he trys or not to shoehorn players in. How do you fit Nagy, Massengo, Smith and Rowe into the matchday Squad? The one player I feel who might miss out even more is Eliasson. 1Daniel Bentley 6Nathan Baker 22Tomas Kalas 29Ashley Williams 32Pedro Pereira 11Callum O'Dowda 25Tommy Rowe 4Ádám Nagy 8Josh Brownhill 15Marley Watkins 14Andreas Weimann Substitutes 31Rodri 23Taylor Moore 18Antoine Semenyo 33Niki Mäenpää 45Kasey Palmer 42Han-Noah Massengo 19Niclas Eliasson Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Wright been back for a while? My squad would be Bentley Hunt Kalas Williams Dasilva Smith Nagy Brownhill Palmer Weimann Diedhiou Subs Maenpaa Moore Rowe Massengo O’Dowda Eliasson Semenyo However we have a lot of options like going with a back 5 or a 442 which could always change depending on opponent and there will be more injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Wright been back for a while? My squad would be Bentley Hunt Kalas Williams Dasilva Smith Nagy Brownhill Palmer Weimann Diedhiou Subs Maenpaa Moore Rowe Massengo O’Dowda Eliasson Semenyo However we have a lot of options like going with a back 5 or a 442 which could always change depending on opponent and there will be more injuries. Think got injured again in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 The good thing for me is we now have depth with Nagy and Kalas back, reinforced by Hunt and Smith after the break. The challenge is then for those in possession of the shirt to keep it and those on the fringes to push hard for a place / take their opportunity through injury / suspension / drop in form. Yesterday I felt Lee stopped pissing around, and picked what he considered as strong an eleven as he could for the opposition. I’m sure he does that every game, but it seemed a simple, logical eleven for Cardiff away. He wanted that slightly flatter three in midfield (532) so O’Dowda got the nod, rather than the slightly more risky option in Palmer (5212). He picked Baker for his physicality over Moore...but kept the back 3. I guess he thought Nagy the right CM over Massengo for the opposition too. It freed Brownhill too. He kept Cardiff’s midfield honest. I liked that. I hope it’s the start of a consistent formation / system....although Dasilva’s return at some point may allow another change. I do think the 3 CBs, especially with Kalas back is gonna make us hard to break going forward. Within that system there is enough flexibility to tweak it without going mad. As above, could go: 5212 with Palmer or O’Dowda 5221 with say Palmer and O’Dowda playing off of Weimann 51 / 5311 with Palmer at the tip, Nagy at the base, Brownhill and O’Dowda on the sides. etc. It gives us rotation / rest options too, whilst breeding familiarity. Things to start being positive about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, spudski said: Of course we do...do you never pick a team in your head then RR. Thought most fans do...I know it's the main topic of conversation in the pub before KO...then an hour before KO we all look at Twitter and see we've all chosen wrong I always get it wrong Spudski simply because I’m not privy to all the latest player related data as LJ and his assistants are. Going back a number of seasons when squads were significantly smaller it was usually simple enough to select the starting 11. The only time I or we got wrong was when a regular starter had picked up an injury in training. That’s not the case these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The good thing for me is we now have depth with Nagy and Kalas back, reinforced by Hunt and Smith after the break. The challenge is then for those in possession of the shirt to keep it and those on the fringes to push hard for a place / take their opportunity through injury / suspension / drop in form. Yesterday I felt Lee stopped pissing around, and picked what he considered as strong an eleven as he could for the opposition. I’m sure he does that every game, but it seemed a simple, logical eleven for Cardiff away. He wanted that slightly flatter three in midfield (532) so O’Dowda got the nod, rather than the slightly more risky option in Palmer (5212). He picked Baker for his physicality over Moore...but kept the back 3. I guess he thought Nagy the right CM over Massengo for the opposition too. It freed Brownhill too. He kept Cardiff’s midfield honest. I liked that. I hope it’s the start of a consistent formation / system....although Dasilva’s return at some point may allow another change. I do think the 3 CBs, especially with Kalas back is gonna make us hard to break going forward. Within that system there is enough flexibility to tweak it without going mad. As above, could go: 5212 with Palmer or O’Dowda 5221 with say Palmer and O’Dowda playing off of Weimann 51 / 5311 with Palmer at the tip, Nagy at the base, Brownhill and O’Dowda on the sides. etc. It gives us rotation / rest options too, whilst breeding familiarity. Things to start being positive about. I think what LJ said about having a true number 6 in Nagy covering the defence properly is very poinient. Brownhill is far better when playing more forward. I was disingenuous claiming Brownhill had gone within himself since being given Captaincy. Playing deeper and having to Sheppard Massengo about didn't give him his freedom. Will there ever be a need to play Nagy and Massengo in the starting 11 together? So many permutations as you've said Dave. In Nagy, Smith, Massengo and Rowe we have some solid DMs. Freeing up Brownhill and Odowda and Palmer to be at their most influential offensively. 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: I always get it wrong Spudski simply because I’m not privy to all the latest player related data as LJ and his assistants are. Going back a number of seasons when squads were significantly smaller it was usually simple enough to select the starting 11. The only time I or we got wrong was when a regular starter had picked up an injury in training. That’s not the case these days. As was the case Sunday...LJ hinting Smith was close and playing down Nagy. Don't think anyone would have guessed Nagy to play. And the week before, the same with Kalas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bentley Pereira. Kalas. Moore. Dasilva B’hill Nagy. Massengo Weimann Fam. Elliason subs Maenpaa, Williams, Rowe, Smith, COD, Palmer, Semenyo However would adopt a horses for courses approach and switch between this and 5-3-2 depending on opposition Bentley Kalas. Williams. Moore Pereira. Dasilva B’hill Nagy. Massengo Weimann Fam Subs Maenpaa, Baker, Smith, Elliason, COD, Palmer, Semenyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think Han Noah will get a bit of a rest in the next few weeks but over Christmas he will be involved and will play his part. Kasey will also be in and out of the starting 11 depending on the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I'm really excited to see a rotation between Massengo, Nagy, Brownhill and Smith. We'll have a lot of grit and it should allow us Palmer to play with freedom. I have a probably very incorrect theory that LJ wanted to build the side around Palmer and the signings of Massengo and Nagy was to accommodate this. I don't think it's been a secret that we've been looking to sign an attacker that plays on the shoulder of the last defender and Palmer's vision fits in perfect with this. Brownhill can also play in the free role when necessary. I don't think Johnson built this squad to play the way we have this season and I believe our injury woes has led to us playing with a more gritty style of play. It is gutting that the Afobe is injured as I think it would be the most complete City side during the GJ to LJ eras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownendRed97 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bit surprised that many people are starting Hunt ahead of Pereira? I like Hunt, however Pereira just seems to have the extra bit of quality and is a lot younger so more room to improve too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Robbored said: I always get it wrong Spudski simply because I’m not privy to all the latest player related data as LJ and his assistants are. Going back a number of seasons when squads were significantly smaller it was usually simple enough to select the starting 11. The only time I or we got wrong was when a regular starter had picked up an injury in training. That’s not the case these days. Horses for courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bullbag said: My matchday 18 would be, Bentley, Niki. Pereira, Hunt, Rowe, Williams, Kalas, Moore, Baker. Brownhill(C), Nagy, Massengo, COD, Eliasson, Palmer. Weimann, Diedhiou, Rodri. This is of course with the injuries to Dasilva and Afobe, otherwise those two would be straight in that 18. I think you may open us up to a points deduction without Semenyo in there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 hours ago, DownendRed97 said: Bit surprised that many people are starting Hunt ahead of Pereira? I like Hunt, however Pereira just seems to have the extra bit of quality and is a lot younger so more room to improve too There's not much between them and I suspect they'll both play their fair share of games once Hunt is fit. Nice problem to have though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 I'm on desktop so forgive the butchered shape on smartphones. From a fully fit squad, barring Afobe due to severity. Bentley Kalas Williams Bakes Pereira Nagy Brownhill JD KP45 Weimann Diedhiou Niki, Moore, Hunt, COD, Massengo, Eliasson, Semenyo This is incredibly difficult. Harder than I expected. No room for Watkins, Rowe, or Korey bloody Smith... Does bring home how good our squad is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 hours ago, DownendRed97 said: Bit surprised that many people are starting Hunt ahead of Pereira? I like Hunt, however Pereira just seems to have the extra bit of quality and is a lot younger so more room to improve too Yeah. He doesn’t give me heart palpitations when he has the ball in our half like Jack Hunt does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Goalkeepers - Maenpaa. Bentley Defenders - Pereira, Kalas, Williams, Baker, Moore, Dasilva Midfielders - Brownhill, Massengo, Nagy, Smith, O’Dowda, Attackers - Diedhiou, Rodri, Palmer, Eliasson, Weimann I’d swap an attacker on the bench for someone like Hunt or Rowe away from home . Oh and Afobe will replace Rodri when fit My choice is merely based on a fully fit squad . Easier to pick the 18 with Afobe and Dasilva still out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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