E.G.Red Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Interesting programme on ITV now. Inspired Real Madrid to wear white and a Corinthian team in Brazil to be established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezer Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Yeah, caught a small bit of the programme, but wondered why they feel hard done by not getting financial backing from the FA. Are the Rovers in disguise or do they have a legitimate claim? Were they one of the original football sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 If you missed it... Check it out on catch up … very special and worthwhile watch, history surprised me, and poignant too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian-Casuals_F.C. we are in there for the now infamous FA Cup first round tie. Luckily I’m advised by arriving about a minute before KO I missed the mayhem!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 hours ago, REDOXO said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian-Casuals_F.C. we are in there for the now infamous FA Cup first round tie. Luckily I’m advised by arriving about a minute before KO I missed the mayhem!! Take care though - that article is about Corinthian Casuals after the 1939 merger. The original Corinthian were formed in 1882 and their story is the really interesting one. Scotland were dominating England and it was thought this was because their players mostly played together for Queens Park. So Corinthian were formed expressly to have a team that could form the basis of the England team - and they did. Some England matches in the 1880s had players that were all Corinthians. However, Corinthian were always strictly amateur and only played friendlies, so they didn’t play in the FA Cup or join the Football League when it was formed. Nevertheless, they were regarded as the best around and often thrashed professional sides - for example they beat Manchester United 11-3 after 1900. Their players included several famous “gentleman” all rounders, including CB Fry and Max Woosnam (both amazing in their own right). Their style was what attracted many people. They played beautiful football and a passing game that superseded the previous kick and rush style. Another thing was that they toured abroad and introduced football to other countries, particularly Brazil. Hence Corinthians Paulista being named after them, and the 2015 match in Sau Paulo (which was at the heart of this fascinating and heartwarming TV programme). Remaining strictly amateur, Corinthian Casuals are now a very minor non league team and have fallen on hard times. The São Paulo match was partly aimed at obtaining sponsorship in Brazil, as the respect for them over there as the source of Brazilian football is immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikep Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Responding to Freezer, Corinthian were the bedrock of English football and inspired numerous teams to play football to a higher standard. But to do this they choose to remain amateur. For all they have done for promoting English football, they have a legitimate claim to be helped by the FA. To call them ‘rovers in disguise’ is a massive insult. Corinthian Casuals as they now are, still retain the same spirit. Being amateur means that they struggle massively to make ends meet. They are still passionate in what they do and it is for the love of the game and not the financial rewards. i am biased because my lad played for the first team for many years although he now turns out for their old boys. There is an incredible bond between the players, old and current, and it is rewarding to see such loyalty. No premier league egos! Leveller is right that they turned out many famous names. There have been famous names since associated with the club. Jimmy Hill, Micky and Alex Stewart are just a few who come to mind. If Corinthian Casuals folded it would be a sad day for the history of football. If rovers folded, I probably would not notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Did we have a dust up with the Wall there in the cup or was it Fisher Athletic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Changing the subject a bit but who were team we beat 9-2 in the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Super said: Changing the subject a bit but who were team we beat 9-2 in the cup? St albans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, archie andrews said: St albans Cheers mate pretty sure Matt Hewlett bag a few that day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Super said: Cheers mate pretty sure Matt Hewlett bag a few that day! Pretty sure agostino filled his boots that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Liking the casuals nickname... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Did we have a dust up with the Wall there in the cup or was it Fisher Athletic? Yeah, it was at Dulwich Hamlets ground, around '82-'83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nicki's soulmate said: Yeah, it was at Dulwich Hamlets ground, around '82-'83 Was it really that long a go .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Leveller said: Take care though - that article is about Corinthian Casuals after the 1939 merger. The original Corinthian were formed in 1882 and their story is the really interesting one. Scotland were dominating England and it was thought this was because their players mostly played together for Queens Park. So Corinthian were formed expressly to have a team that could form the basis of the England team - and they did. Some England matches in the 1880s had players that were all Corinthians. However, Corinthian were always strictly amateur and only played friendlies, so they didn’t play in the FA Cup or join the Football League when it was formed. Nevertheless, they were regarded as the best around and often thrashed professional sides - for example they beat Manchester United 11-3 after 1900. Their players included several famous “gentleman” all rounders, including CB Fry and Max Woosnam (both amazing in their own right). Their style was what attracted many people. They played beautiful football and a passing game that superseded the previous kick and rush style. Another thing was that they toured abroad and introduced football to other countries, particularly Brazil. Hence Corinthians Paulista being named after them, and the 2015 match in Sau Paulo (which was at the heart of this fascinating and heartwarming TV programme). Remaining strictly amateur, Corinthian Casuals are now a very minor non league team and have fallen on hard times. The São Paulo match was partly aimed at obtaining sponsorship in Brazil, as the respect for them over there as the source of Brazilian football is immense. I'm fascinated by CB Fry: captained England at cricket and still has the record for consecutive centuries; played in an FA Cup final; held the world long jump record for many years and was Olympic class at high jump and sprinting as well; and played Rugby for the Barbarians. In between all that, he was a full-time teacher, wrote various books, stood three times for Parliament as a Liberal, turned down the throne of Albania and tried to interest Hitler in cricket. He also went bonkers on occasion and got arrested for walking around in public naked and was incarcerated in various mental hospitals. We shall not see his like again. [Agree with the OP too that the Corinthian Casuals programme was very interesting] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Alan Dicks said: Did we have a dust up with the Wall there in the cup or was it Fisher Athletic? Yep. It was at Dulwich Hamlet ground. As below I am reliably informed I was lucky. Got tasty as it gets by the accounts of those in the ground 15 mins before KO 14 hours ago, REDOXO said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian-Casuals_F.C. we are in there for the now infamous FA Cup first round tie. Luckily I’m advised by arriving about a minute before KO I missed the mayhem!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm fascinated by CB Fry: captained England at cricket and still has the record for consecutive centuries; played in an FA Cup final; held the world long jump record for many years and was Olympic class at high jump and sprinting as well; and played Rugby for the Barbarians. In between all that, he was a full-time teacher, wrote various books, stood three times for Parliament as a Liberal, turned down the throne of Albania and tried to interest Hitler in cricket. He also went bonkers on occasion and got arrested for walking around in public naked and was incarcerated in various mental hospitals. We shall not see his like again. [Agree with the OP too that the Corinthian Casuals programme was very interesting] What an absolute nutter. I mean standing for Parliament as a Liberal?! Bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chivs said: What an absolute nutter. I mean standing for Parliament as a Liberal?! Bonkers. He was a Liberal who was also a big fan of Hitler. In other words, rather confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, archie andrews said: Liking the casuals nickname... forgot to add its the chocolate and pink..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, archie andrews said: forgot to add its the chocolate and pink..... That reminds me of the late 1970s fim, 10, starring Dudley Moore and the very attractive Bo Derek. Dudley is trying to teach the scantily clad Bo how to play snooker, standing close behind her whilst guiding her cue hand, and he then moves back to watch Bo leaning over the table and, when it is his shot, says something about not being sure whether to go for the pink or the brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm fascinated by CB Fry: captained England at cricket and still has the record for consecutive centuries; played in an FA Cup final; held the world long jump record for many years and was Olympic class at high jump and sprinting as well; and played Rugby for the Barbarians. In between all that, he was a full-time teacher, wrote various books, stood three times for Parliament as a Liberal, turned down the throne of Albania and tried to interest Hitler in cricket. He also went bonkers on occasion and got arrested for walking around in public naked and was incarcerated in various mental hospitals. We shall not see his like again. [Agree with the OP too that the Corinthian Casuals programme was very interesting] Wasn`t he related somehow to Stephen Fry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Wasn`t he related somehow to Stephen Fry? Not heard that one. SF is descended distantly from the Fry chocolate family. Our nan worked in his relatives' factory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm fascinated by CB Fry: captained England at cricket and still has the record for consecutive centuries; played in an FA Cup final; held the world long jump record for many years and was Olympic class at high jump and sprinting as well; and played Rugby for the Barbarians. In between all that, he was a full-time teacher, wrote various books, stood three times for Parliament as a Liberal, turned down the throne of Albania and tried to interest Hitler in cricket. He also went bonkers on occasion and got arrested for walking around in public naked and was incarcerated in various mental hospitals. We shall not see his like again. [Agree with the OP too that the Corinthian Casuals programme was very interesting] Check out Max Woosnam too. New to me, but he was related to Ian and Phil Woosnam. Played various sports for Cambridge University. Captained Manchester City and played football for England as well as Corinthian. Scored a 147 at snooker. Scored a century at Lords. Won Olympic medals for tennis and won the doubles at Wimbledon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.