Super Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Can LJ not find a formation which will get our most creative player into the team or is he simply incapable of doing this? He simply has to play especially at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Super said: Can LJ not find a formation which will get our most creative player into the team or is he simply incapable of doing this? He simply has to play especially at home. Agreed. I think he's a huge talent and we have to find a system we can incorporate him in. I think a 4/5/1 or 4/3/3 variant is probably our best bet. As an example, something like.. Bentley; Pereira, Williams, Baker, Rowe; Nagy, Smith; Weimann, Brownhill, Eliasson; Diedhiou That system also allows for HNM, O'Dowda, Palmer, Semenyo etc to get plenty of game time too. We have options and that system is flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Johnson's already said as much that he'll be starting on Saturday. That's great, and long overdue, but how much of a chance will he really give him? If it doesn't click for him against Huddersfield will he be straight out the team again? Even if he's amazing, does he then start against Fulham? And if he does, what if he doesn't play well at Fulham? He'll likely be straight back out again. He needs to trust him, give him a few games back to back and just let him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Problem we have is we constantly see players provide an impact from the bench. Next game we give them the opportunity to start and show us what they can do, and they make no impact whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 We should just go for it v Huddersfield Bentley Pedro Williams Kalas Rowe Nagy Brownhill Palmer Eliasson Fammy Weimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Roe said: Johnson's already said as much that he'll be starting on Saturday. That's great, and long overdue, but how much of a chance will he really give him? If it doesn't click for him against Huddersfield will he be straight out the team again? Even if he's amazing, does he then start against Fulham? And if he does, what if he doesn't play well at Fulham? He'll likely be straight back out again. He needs to trust him, give him a few games back to back and just let him play. I agree. The problem is, he'll get start, won't put in a 10 out of 10 performance and he'll then be back on the bench for 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bas's perfect hattrick Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, grifty said: We should just go for it v Huddersfield Bentley Pedro Williams Kalas Rowe Nagy Brownhill Palmer Eliasson Fammy Weimann Looks good but I don't think Palmer deserves a start after his performance yesterday. Better push Brownhill up and put Massengo in to partner Nagy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highguy Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, 054123 said: As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. 100% agree with you he more effective when brought on doesn’t seem to deliver in games when he rarely started and then dropped week after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, 054123 said: As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. I think this is a myth. This season he's only started 3 games, and he's set up goals in the first half of 2 of those games. You could argue that his all round game hasn't been great when he's started but who's has? End of the day he's first for nearly all our attacking stats despite rarely playing more than 45 minutes a game. We're notably having trouble creating chances at the moment. It seems mental that you'd then leave out the player that is best at actually doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 I have a feeling Eliasson will end up moving somewhere when his contract is up and being a star player..He's the only player that I feel really frustrated for/about. I would have him over COD eery day and even though other city mates of mine say Callum is class I really do not see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Roe said: I think this is a myth. This season he's only started 3 games, and he's set up goals in the first half of 2 of those games. You could argue that his all round game hasn't been great when he's started but who's has? End of the day he's first for nearly all our attacking stats despite rarely playing more than 45 minutes a game. We're notably having trouble creating chances at the moment. It seems mental that you'd then leave out the player that is best at actually doing that. I’m for any kind of change at the moment. Maybe it’s Nicolas, maybe it’s not. If we have genuine aspirations of improvement, then something has to change at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 What we need more than anything is someone to get on the end of the crosses that Eliasson makes. I know it's obvious but we could have beaten Forest comfortably with the chances he created. Starting or sub won't make a difference if none of our forwards can meet the ball in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, 054123 said: As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. Like who else does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Crossing can be a very inefficent way to get goals- depends on the type of cross of course too. We had 30 or more vs Nottingham Forest, apparently- unsure if that was attempted, completed or similar. Crossing from the width of the 18 yard box though, that can be different- question is, how well can Eliasson roam inside to do this? It's a subject of much debate though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Like who else does? Correct. ’Does anybody else...’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 054123 said: Correct. ’Does anybody else...’ Not for 90 minutes or even 45 in my memory. The fact that Eliasson can't get his deserved game time is pathetic and there is no excuse for it. However hard some people seem to try to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 As per the Sky stat last night: Number of minutes: 15th in the squad Assist: First Crosses: First Chances Created: First Absolutely joke that he isn't playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said: Looks good but I don't think Palmer deserves a start after his performance yesterday. Better push Brownhill up and put Massengo in to partner Nagy I just imagine Palmer having a field day in that role, playing Weimann And Nick in to supply Fammy. I’d prefer Palmer in that role than Brownhill regardless of performance v WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, 054123 said: As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. None more so than a lot of other players who do get starts ..... If ne starts its highly unlikely he we get left on for full 90 mins regardless of the result at around 65 mins .. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Eliasson main attribute = dangerous crossing, has the oppo on the back foot a lot. Weimann main attribute =never stops running around, but sadly not a natural finisher.. Guess who always plays and rarely gets subbed? Funny old game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, 054123 said: As much as people clammer for him to start, does nobody else feel that an ‘impact’ role is his best role? Im concerned he can’t deliver for 90 mins. I’m concerned he’s never been given a real chance. To essentially pick Bailey Wright at the expense of a talent like Eliasson last night was bordering on criminal, especially as he was the only player on the pitch that looked remotely like affecting the previous game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just watched back Eliasson's assists for the season. I take back a bit of what I said- yes he has to get a proper run, he certainly can drift inside or he can deliver the crosses wider- to say nothing of all those he puts in and we get no real joy from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 I would love Eliasson to sometimes just drive into the opposition penalty area where he could either shoot or draw a foul for a penalty. He trys to cross every time but I believe we are missing a trick here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: As per the Sky stat last night: Number of minutes: 15th in the squad Assist: First Crosses: First Chances Created: First Absolutely joke that he isn't playing. Stats dont lie , and lj is a stats man , ne must be disheartened knowing hes benched everyweek .... can honestly see him hoing at the end of the season and being a major championship player for someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: As per the Sky stat last night: Number of minutes: 15th in the squad Assist: First Crosses: First Chances Created: First Absolutely joke that he isn't playing. Thats scary. If johnson doesnt want to play a formation to suit elliasson then sell him and put the money towards someone that will suit the formation. Same with perera who seems to be an excellent right back,,,, and is much better defensively than going forward. Him and niclas could be a formidable right side partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: I would love Eliasson to sometimes just drive into the opposition penalty area where he could either shoot or draw a foul for a penalty. He trys to cross every time but I believe we are missing a trick here . There was one moment against Forest where he broke into the box and was 1 on 1 with the keeper albeit from a tricky angle and wouldn't take the shot. Bit more confidence (ie. a run of starts) and he might be putting them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Home or away lj seems to set the team up first and foremost to hang on to the point then has to make changes when we inevitably fall behind what ever happened to the slick fast paced fooball we were treated to 2 seasonns ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Banjo Island said: Home or away lj seems to set the team up first and foremost to hang on to the point then has to make changes when we inevitably fall behind what ever happened to the slick fast paced fooball we were treated to 2 seasonns ago Exactly as I see it. So Negative at the moment.. Eliasson is too direct for LJ's style at home. I hope that thinking changes soon...….maybe Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Never been as much of a fan of him as some previous to this season, but he has to start, we look so poor at the moment. Looked dangerous on the left last night. I've always preferred what I've seen of him out there than on the right, think it makes it easier for the strikers timing their runs as well. If he doesn't get the ball in the box, 9 times out of 10 we'll get a corner. I can't believe this comment though, does Johnson really not see a player who deserves to start and instead expects it of Eliasson to ask to play? Strange. Quote The bigger question is that the likes of Eliasson have got the right to knock on my door and demand to play. Previously it was one in 16 losses, now Eliasson for example should be asking me for a start tomorrow morning" said Johnson https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/i-apologise-lee-johnson-takes-3585856 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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