Admin phantom Posted November 29, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 For anyone not at Ashton Gate tomorrow this is live on BBC2 from 5pm Pot 1 Belgium Italy (hosts) England (hosts) Germany (hosts) Spain (hosts) Ukraine Pot 2 France Poland Switzerland Croatia Netherlands (hosts) Russia (hosts) Pot 3 Portugal Turkey Denmark (hosts) Austria Sweden Czech Republic Pot 4 Wales Finland Winner play-off Path A (Iceland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania) Winner play-off Path B (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovakia, Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland) Winner play-off Path C (Scotland, Norway, Serbia, Israel) Winner play-off Path D (Georgia, North Macedonia, Kosovo, Belarus) Group possibilities Group A (Rome, Baku) Italy France/Poland/Switzerland/Croatia Portugal/Turkey/Austria/Sweden/Czech Republic Finland/Wales Group B (Saint Petersburg, Copenhagen) Belgium Russia Denmark Finland/Wales Group C (Amsterdam, Bucharest) Ukraine Netherlands Portugal/Turkey/Austria/Sweden/Czech Republic Winner play-off path A or D* Group D (London, Glasgow) England France/Poland/Switzerland/Croatia Portugal/Turkey/Austria/Sweden/Czech Republic Winner play-off path C Group E (Bilbao, Dublin) Spain France/Poland/Switzerland/Croatia Portugal/Turkey/Austria/Sweden/Czech Republic Winner play-off path B Group F (Munich, Budapest) Germany France/Poland/Switzerland/Croatia Portugal/Turkey/Austria/Sweden/Czech Republic Winner play-off path A or D* * The Path for the team from Pot 4 will be determined as follows: If Iceland, Bulgaria or Hungary win Path A then they go in Group F; the winner of Path D complete Group C. If Romania win Path A then they go in Group C; the winner of Path D complete Group F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Pretty straight forward then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Perhaps one day we’ll get back to the ridiculous version of “put all the teams into a bag and draw them out”. All this seeding, this team can’t play that team, this pathway heads here etc is for the birds. I’m usually a very sane guy, but these draws drive me nuts nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Harry said: Pretty straight forward then! Ha, exactly what I was thinking. They'll have to resurrect Einstein if they seriously expect anybody to grasp that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 How are the pots sorted? Strange that the World Champions are in pot 2. I guess worst case for us is France Portugal and probably Wales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Super said: How are the pots sorted? Strange that the World Champions are in pot 2. I guess worst case for us is France Portugal and probably Wales? They’ve been seeded purely on the qualifying results in this competition. So the fact France won the World Cup and are ranked number 2 in the world, their qualifying record wasn’t as good as the 6 pot 1 teams. The 6 pot 1 teams are FIFA ranked 1,4,8,13,15,24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, Harry said: They’ve been seeded purely on the qualifying results in this competition. So the fact France won the World Cup and are ranked number 2 in the world, their qualifying record wasn’t as good as the 6 pot 1 teams. The 6 pot 1 teams are FIFA ranked 1,4,8,13,15,24. Weirdly it actually works out kind of well - kind of neutralises the effect of seeding. I've a ticket to Italy v tbc in Rome on the 17th. Looking like Group A could be decent. Potentially could see Kalas or Morrell play if the draw works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 we're lucky enough to have tickets to all the group matches in Rome - so I'll look out for you @ExiledAjax ! France, Czech Republic and Wales would be three decent matches in Group A. Can't make it to the Gate tomorrow and will be watching the draw on TV with interest...but also a degree of perplexity...feels like the play-off matches leave a lot still to be decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Harry said: Perhaps one day we’ll get back to the ridiculous version of “put all the teams into a bag and draw them out”. All this seeding, this team can’t play that team, this pathway heads here etc is for the birds. I’m usually a very sane guy, but these draws drive me nuts nowadays. Surely, it would be easier and less complicated for UEFA to just state which two countries they want in the final and simply admit they're fixing the draw to make it happen. Also why don't they just rename it the Euro Bribery & Corruption Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Only thing you can be sure of - there will be plenty of cheating and shrinking violets on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 So Ukraine vs Russia in St. Petersburg is a possibility in the knockout stage, but is a prohibited draw in the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 30, 2019 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: So Ukraine vs Russia in St. Petersburg is a possibility in the knockout stage, but is a prohibited draw in the group stage. Barmy how it can work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Harry said: Perhaps one day we’ll get back to the ridiculous version of “put all the teams into a bag and draw them out”. All this seeding, this team can’t play that team, this pathway heads here etc is for the birds. I’m usually a very sane guy, but these draws drive me nuts nowadays. Even by FIFA standards of special pot number 2 or Jedi like yellow ball number 9 to determine if team C must not be allowed to play games against the qualifiers from Group F, it is insane to me that two weeks ago there was a result to the Ireland Denmark game which would have effectively drawn a complete group. In other words what should be the product of 4 random draws was already made predictable by the various rules and adjustments. Think I’m right in saying Belgium already know their group and most of their opponents just by process of elimination. Wonder if FIFA have asked them to look surprised at the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Olé said: Even by FIFA standards of special pot number 2 or Jedi like yellow ball number 9 to determine if team C must not be allowed to play games against the qualifiers from Group F, it is insane to me that two weeks ago there was a result to the Ireland Denmark game which would have effectively drawn a complete group. In other words what should be the product of 4 random draws was already made predictable by the various rules and adjustments. Think I’m right in saying Belgium already know their group and most of their opponents just by process of elimination. Wonder if FIFA have asked them to look surprised at the draw. Surly this is a uefa draw not fifa ? but yes as draws goes it’s bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 If this on BBC 2 at 5pm, I shall be watching BBC1 at 5pm. All of the "blahdy blah can't play blahdy blah" just because we want to confuse the bejeez out of everyone, is mind-numbing! Happy to see the groups once completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Too complicated for me, hopefully there will be a live game on 5 Live / Talk Sport I can listen to on my 2 hour drive home after the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 23 hours ago, Harry said: Perhaps one day we’ll get back to the ridiculous version of “put all the teams into a bag and draw them out”. Until the break up of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia and the acceptance of Andorra and the Faroe Islands etc, there were 32 nations in UEFA. This gave eight pools of four teams. The eight winners of each pool were the quarter finalists and put in the hat to drawn out at random. The QFs were played H&A, 1972; England 1- W Germany 3, the following week Germany 0 - England 0. A few weeks later one nation hosted the semis and final itself. No long tournament this, instead one semi on Tuesday night, the other on Wednesday with the final on the Sunday evening. I think the last time this happened was Yugoslavia in 1976. Nowadays there are 55 nations in UEFA. Israel cannot play for political reasons against their neighbours. I'm convinced that Azerbaijan and should be playing the likes of Iran etc, but they make more money out of losing to Italy than drawing against Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Exciting. Have group D tickets so I think we'll defo see England (if I've got that right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Exciting. Have group D tickets so I think we'll defo see England (if I've got that right) Yes you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Exciting. Have group D tickets so I think we'll defo see England (if I've got that right) Yes you have, and you will! We've got tickets to the final England group game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Red Exile said: Yes you have, and you will! We've got tickets to the final England group game. Thanks mate. Can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Exciting. Have group D tickets so I think we'll defo see England (if I've got that right) If it’s for a Wembley match then yes you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Croatia in our group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Super said: Croatia in our group Opening game for us, bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Czech republic as well. Decent group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Czechs last group game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Also the Czech’s. Kalas will fancy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Group F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Germany, France, Portugal! Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Tomas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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