Unan Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 But 8 losses, 2 draws has turned in to 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 losses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Not yet, but over a season that 12 points would give us 55, which was 17th last year. Certainly lower than most would hope, especially considering the investment and stability we've had. Gary used to look at blocks of 10 I think, and this has been quite a poor one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Eh? It's all relative as we say in Pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, pillred said: It's all relative as we say in Pill. So a relatively bad run? Progress is key, LJ needs to find the right door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: But 8 losses, 2 draws has turned in to 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 losses..... You might want to rewrite this you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: But 8 losses, 2 draws has turned in to 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 losses..... The thought had crossed my mind . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: You might want to rewrite this you know Is this one of Lee Johnsons poor runs, but rather than losing 8 in a row, we are now drawing games, meaning he is improving as a manager. Is this as bad as it's going to get or will it get worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: Is this one of Lee Johnsons poor runs, but rather than losing 8 in a row, we are now drawing games. (Is this as bad as it's going to get or will it get worse) When we come out of the bad run & come in to one of his good runs, we will win a hell of a lot. Ok. I suppose the real answer is who knows? But I have a nasty feeling that we are going to go on a bit of a bad run that could drag on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, AppyDAZE said: Ok. I suppose the real answer is who knows? But i have a nasty feeling that we are going to go on a bit of a bad run. I feel like the only way is up - apologies when we lose 4-0 to Huddersfield. Johnson doesn't seem to do average patches, it's either really good or really bad. I hope this is our new version of 'really bad'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: I feel like the only way is up - apologies when we lose 4-0 to Huddersfield. Johnson doesn't seem to do average patches, it's either really good or really bad. I hope this is our new version of 'really bad'. or down, if you can't score more than about 1 goal a game and at the same time your defence seems to have forgotten how to defend (in fairness, the whole team) Look, I pray i am wrong but it's how i feel watching them recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Huddersfield have improved since Danny Cowley took over as manager and have only lost once in the last ten matches. They usually don’t score many so I imagine they will play a tight defensive game tomorrow and try to score on a counter attack. I’m not expecting much from tomorrow, or Fulham, but I hope I’m wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 We arent looking great, im no happy clapper but lj deserves some respect for us being where we with the transfer sales and injuries weve had.im sure with kalas afobe nagy and dasilva playing all season we would have had a few more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Seneca the Younger said: But 8 losses, 2 draws has turned in to 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 losses..... I definitely see your point with this , we are now more difficult to beat and more than capable of nicking a late win (Charlton), riding our luck a bit but managing the game brilliantly after scoring (Cardiff), but I think our most disappointing result (not necessarily performance) in those eight was squandering of a 2 goal lead at Barnsley. Going off on a bit of a tangent, but still relevant to the odd sort of runs LJ has developed, is the comparison of that 8 match losing run where we lost every single game IIRC by 1 goal which is a weird stat, as you would assume that a team incapable of securing a single point over 8 games would have suffered 2 or 3 games where we would have been trounced and yet that did not happen in that run (The Preston away 5-0 was after that 8 game losing run). A new LJ thing that seems to have emerged this season is that the 3 defeats have all been thrashings, 1-3 Leeds, 3-0 at Luton and now 4-1 at WBA and in each defeat (despite the fact that we were still in the game at West Brom following Fammy's goal with 10 minutes to go, before further capitulation!) we have been well and truly beaten performance-wise as well as result-wise. Not sure if this says anything about the squad, and I am generally happy with our results given the scale of injuries. The cliché always used to be, when a team can't seem to buy a win, is that you would happily take a scruffy 1-0, conversely I am now hoping that our next defeat (hopefully some time away) is a closely contested 0-1or 1-2, rather than a 3 or 4 goal dicking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, New Dazzler said: I definitely see your point with this , we are now more difficult to beat and more than capable of nicking a late win (Charlton), riding our luck a bit but managing the game brilliantly after scoring (Cardiff), but I think our most disappointing result (not necessarily performance) in those eight was squandering of a 2 goal lead at Barnsley. Going off on a bit of a tangent, but still relevant to the odd sort of runs LJ has developed, is the comparison of that 8 match losing run where we lost every single game IIRC by 1 goal which is a weird stat, as you would assume that a team incapable of securing a single point would have suffered 2 or 3 games where we would have been trounced and yet that did not happen in that run (The Preston away 5-0 was after that 8 game losing run). A new LJ thing that seems to have emerged this season is that the 3 defeats have all been thrashings 1-3 Leeds, 3-0 at Luton and now 4-1 at WBA and in each defeat (despite the fact that we were still in the game following Fammy's goal with 10 minutes to go, before further capitulation!) we have been well and truly beaten performance-wise as well as result-wise. Not sure if this says anything about the squad, and I am generally happy with our results given the scale of injuries. The cliché always used to be, when a team can't seem to buy a win, is that you would happily take a scruffy 1-0, conversely I am now hoping that our next defeat (hopefully some time away) is a closely contested 0-1or 1-2, rather than a 3 or 4 goal dicking! Just had a look, indeed we seldom got thrashed that season up to Preston away! I remember at the time, looking up XG- a stat/metric of debatable worth, but it did suggest that underlying performances were perhaps not as bad as results- hence the string of low losses perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, New Dazzler said: I definitely see your point with this , we are now more difficult to beat and more than capable of nicking a late win (Charlton), riding our luck a bit but managing the game brilliantly after scoring (Cardiff), but I think our most disappointing result (not necessarily performance) in those eight was squandering of a 2 goal lead at Barnsley. Going off on a bit of a tangent, but still relevant to the odd sort of runs LJ has developed, is the comparison of that 8 match losing run where we lost every single game IIRC by 1 goal which is a weird stat, as you would assume that a team incapable of securing a single point over 8 games would have suffered 2 or 3 games where we would have been trounced and yet that did not happen in that run (The Preston away 5-0 was after that 8 game losing run). A new LJ thing that seems to have emerged this season is that the 3 defeats have all been thrashings, 1-3 Leeds, 3-0 at Luton and now 4-1 at WBA and in each defeat (despite the fact that we were still in the game at West Brom following Fammy's goal with 10 minutes to go, before further capitulation!) we have been well and truly beaten performance-wise as well as result-wise. Not sure if this says anything about the squad, and I am generally happy with our results given the scale of injuries. The cliché always used to be, when a team can't seem to buy a win, is that you would happily take a scruffy 1-0, conversely I am now hoping that our next defeat (hopefully some time away) is a closely contested 0-1or 1-2, rather than a 3 or 4 goal dicking! Yes and also, 2 of these games were against top teams. The league is so tough that on any given day someone might get a hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 We need to play attacking football from the off, both sides of Manchester feared us not so long ago! so no throws back toward goal from an attacking position or midfield looking to go anywhere rather than forward, at the moment it’s left-right-back and losing the ball! If we play well and still drop points it won’t be as bad as the crap we are seeing at the moment! Even Mickey Mouse would have a chance of scoring with a few balls fed into the box, last time out there was Zero going into the box until Eliason came on! Stop the piss poor selection, tactics and planning or we will be spending the rest of the season hearing excuses for the opportunity wasted when we end up not even in the playoffs - LJ needs to feel the pressure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 If we get the setup right. 4-4-2 with two wingers will cause us issues. The shape during that December or so especially though, that could certainly do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, pillred said: It's all relative as we say in Pill. Because you're all related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: I feel like the only way is up - apologies when we lose 4-0 to Huddersfield. Johnson doesn't seem to do average patches, it's either really good or really bad. I hope this is our new version of 'really bad'. The only way is up and down simultaneously; we won't know which until we observe it* *The quantum physics explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 I think Eliasson has more than earnt his chance and even on an off day at the very least offers amazing delivery from set pieces and corners. However I think it's important to note how easily WBA adapted and nullified his threat within 10-15 mins or so. Not going to be the answer on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted November 29, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: But 8 losses, 2 draws has turned in to 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 losses..... Make up your own mind, here is an at a glance view of his record over the last few years: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 When the run is over (if indeed one has even started), we can decide then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 if he’s got bad runs I would recommend Imodium or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: So a relatively bad run? Progress is key, LJ needs to find the right door Some would say the exit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Porto Red said: Because you're all related? We try to keep it in the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 13 hours ago, bcfc01 said: 7th. There's 7th, and there's 7th... There's 7th where you're on the up, playing well and expecting to climb higher. And there's 7th where you're on a downward trajectory, out of sorts, anxious about slipping further from the play offs. I think we know which one we fit into at the moment. But beat Huddersfield and come away from Fulham in tact and the picture is more rosy. Worst case, we lose both, likely 7th will become 9th, one win in 7, and worries that 9th could become 11th... we don't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 17 hours ago, pillred said: It's all relative as we say in Pill. Would that be all the inbreeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I think the reason for this is solely down to the way LJ now has us setting up. We seem to go out to be a tight unit (didn't work on Wednesday) and therefore even in the games we play poorly, we are compact enough to be able to take a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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