Unan Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Why would we loan him to another Champ club? League 1 yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: I'd be absolutely fine with this. He looked great in pre-season but has failed to find his place in the team. Paterson's return in Jan will mean opportunities are even more limited for him. Hull and Huddersfield are two decent teams (I'd tip Hull to be this season's "late charge for the play-offs" team) and if he can get minutes in those teams then absolutely send him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 With our record of injuries so far this season it would seem to be a wee bit risky to loan him out to any club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said: Why would we loan him to another Champ club? League 1 yeah. We did with Vyner & Patto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hull are doing alright- would Szmodics get all that much gametime? If he can get minutes though, then excellent- can't play against us of course but could perhaps damage some playoff contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think the question is why would those 2 teams want him at this point? He may well come good but at this point hes not an effective championship footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think he would be backup for them so not sure the value. Much prefer somewhere he would guarantee game time but he seems a good influence within the squad as well so if not virtually guaranteed a start I would keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Watched him for the under 23's & has an eye for goal,, has a great strike on him - just doesn't get involved enough. Minutes on the pitch would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said: With our record of injuries so far this season it would seem to be a wee bit risky to loan him out to any club. Pato is back in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitchurch1966 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Hull are doing alright- would Szmodics get all that much gametime? If he can get minutes though, then excellent- can't play against us of course but could perhaps damage some playoff contenders. Bowen at Hull is out of contract end of season so likely to go in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 punk Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 someone mentioned ipswich which is obviously his part of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Whitchurch1966 said: Bowen at Hull is out of contract end of season so likely to go in January. Hull have year option so it's till end of next season if they obviously trigger that. I'm just worried Szmodics won't get in either side, as both have some very good players. If he does get in then it would be a great move. LJ has shown he can take time to play players after they sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, JonDolman said: Hull have year option so it's till end of next season if they obviously trigger that. I'm just worried Szmodics won't get in either side, as both have some very good players. If he does get in then it would be a great move. LJ has shown he can take time to play players after they sign. Also Bowen is 22- what's the rule with that, is it players under 24 or players under and up to 24 that a club can get compensation for if contract offered? Would be taking a major chance though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Also Bowen is 22- what's the rule with that, is it players under 24 or players under and up to 24 that a club can get compensation for if contract offered? Would be taking a major chance though! Think it's players under 24 but I may be wrong. Usually compensation isn't huge. I'm sure he will be sold by next summer rather than letting his contract run down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Also Bowen is 22- what's the rule with that, is it players under 24 or players under and up to 24 that a club can get compensation for if contract offered? Would be taking a major chance though! Hmm, I wonder was a compensation fee would be and what bowens wage would be?? Hes a star in the making!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/compensation-players-24-mystery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Think it's players under 24 but I may be wrong. Usually compensation isn't huge. I'm sure he will be sold by next summer rather than letting his contract run down. 15 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Hmm, I wonder was a compensation fee would be and what bowens wage would be?? Hes a star in the making!! Overall, I think if he goes it'll be next ie 2020, Summer. January 2021 of course, but there's the pre-contract thing- or is that just with foreign clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I laugh when people think having a separate forum for types of topics stops those topics being in the main forum. Szmodics is pointless here, he's back up to a role we don't use half the time. Get him some game time. Let him get better. Unless he needs more time in LJs coaching system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 3, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Perhaps a loan with a view to a permanent signing in the summer? Maybe been told he has no future with us? Wouldn't be surprised to see Adelukan go the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, phantom said: Perhaps a loan with a view to a permanent signing in the summer? Maybe been told he has no future with us? Wouldn't be surprised to see Adelukan go the same way I'd be surprised if Szmodics left permanently in the Summer. He's not really had a fair crack in the first team proper and Johnson has a record of giving players quite a long time in order to find their place. Eliasson, Brownhill, Moore, COD and even Engvall all had at least one full season on the fringes or out on loan before becoming embedded in the matchday squad (or being let go in Engvall's case). Szmodics seems to have bedded in well in the dressing room and we've heard no rumblings about a poor attitude - so there's no reason to let him go from that perspective. A loan at championship level would be perfect for Szmodics imo, even if it is as back up to Bowen at Hull or Pritchard at Huddersfield. As for Adelakun...I think he may get one more season here. Note - all this is without checking the length of contracts, and all assuming we are a Championship team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Startling news. I had completely forgotten we had a player called Szmodics. Genuinely. Is he any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, OneTeamInBristol said: Why would we loan him to another Champ club? League 1 yeah. No honour in football no more just business look at jamie paterson move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, phantom said: Perhaps a loan with a view to a permanent signing in the summer? Maybe been told he has no future with us? Wouldn't be surprised to see Adelukan go the same way Szmodics I don't feel it's too late for- if he goes to one of these and does alright, he can come back- promotion notwithstanding- and have a fresh crack IMO. Adelukan, agreed- no real future it seems. He played one game was it- when we were in some terrible form away to Leeds- and yes he was very poor but our form and confidence were low too. We did him or Eisa few favours I believe- loaning them out in January 2019 to upper end League One clubs may have seen a different trajectory- especially Eisa, to Charlton, an area he knows from his Greenwich days and clearly a side who can step up reasonably to this level as we are seeing this season. Adelukan though not a topend loan, return on loan to Scunthorpe may have been ideal for all parties- and reduced their compensation claims at tribunal too while he could develop in an environment he knew- again, injuries permitting. I had slight concerns about Moore and wondered if it could have been better for him and us had we for example loaned him to a Bundesliga 2 club, mix of technical and pace, to compliment his Lens days and his Lower League loans, but happily these concerns were very much misplaced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: I'd be absolutely fine with this. He looked great in pre-season but has failed to find his place in the team. Paterson's return in Jan will mean opportunities are even more limited for him. Hull and Huddersfield are two decent teams (I'd tip Hull to be this season's "late charge for the play-offs" team) and if he can get minutes in those teams then absolutely send him out. Well if he is no better than Patterson then you wonder why we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: Well if he is no better than Patterson then you wonder why we signed him. A punt pure and simple. He will probably be sold - for a small profit - in the summer. Adelukin will definitely go unless there is a major turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: Pato is back in Jan. Let them have patterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: Let them have patterson. If he comes back here he can't go anywhere else, can't play for more than 2 clubs in the same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Another strange signing by lj , can only of been signed as they didnt think they'd get palmer ? Again no run in the side and therefor no real chance to prove himself same as eisa ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Relatively reliable source on Twitter hinting it's Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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