Prinny Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Over the course of the season I've heard a lot of comments about LJ setting up tactically to counter the opposition rather than picking a team that suits our best players. There seems to be a mood change after Saturday that finally, finally LJ listened to the fans and played 4-4-2. Reading comments on here, listening to OSIB. But didn't we play 4-4-2 (ish) and have Eliasson as a winger with Hunt overlapping on the other side, precisely because Huddersfield had a bunch of injuries/lack of quality to their full backs? I.E. we did the same thing, but it coincided with what some people have been clamouring for. Do you think it's a mindset change from LJ, or more a coincidence as to how we set up? I think the Fulham selection will be very interesting from the point of view of seeing if LJ has changed his thinking or not. If we see an unchanged lineup or if we change formation and personnel. (Obviously injuries permitting.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 We will go back to 5-3-2 against Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: We will go back to 5-3-2 against Fulham. Our away form can not really be criticised , so to be fair, what ever LJ saids , he has earnt the right. As to home form, the more aggressive line up used against Huddersfield gets my vote every day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thought it was more of a 4-2-3-1 tbh. Anyway it was a absolute improvement whatever it was! Could we make the shape we saw on Saturday more counterattacking? Quiite possibly- OTOH the away form has been impressive for some time so trust LJ to get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 We've not won a game playing 352 all season...it's given our most draws. We've never lost playing 442 or 3142 442 has been our most prolific. Imo..LJ wants to play one way, but injuries have scuppered that. He's played to fit what's available...and it's worked. Leading up to the Huddersfield game, imo, LJ would never had played the team he did, if it wasn't for the results against West Brom and Forest and individual performances. They pretty much picked themselves. Imo...the team we played against Huddersfield is our most balanced right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, spudski said: We've not won a game playing 352 all season...it's given our most draws. We've never lost playing 442 or 3142 442 has been our most prolific. Imo..LJ wants to play one way, but injuries have scuppered that. He's played to fit what's available...and it's worked. Leading up to the Huddersfield game, imo, LJ would never had played the team he did, if it wasn't for the results against West Brom and Forest and individual performances. They pretty much picked themselves. Imo...the team we played against Huddersfield is our most balanced right now. Spot on, LJ is a dick if he goes back to 5-3-2, or tries to shoehorn COD or Wright back in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Vast majority of away games has been 3-5-2 and its resulted in us getting 16 points in 10 games which only four teams can better. LJ would be fully justified in resorting back to that formation against Fulham imo. We were wide open at times against Huddersfield and conceded two goals. To risk that at Fulham would result in a thrashing. Fully expecting 3-5-2 saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, spudski said: We've not won a game playing 352 all season...it's given our most draws. Derby Away was 3-5-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: Derby Away was 3-5-2 Grrrrr...stop wasting my time...3412...Palmer, Weimann, Afobe. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, spudski said: Grrrrr...stop wasting my time...3412...Palmer, Weimann, Afobe. FFS Not how I saw it personally Bentley. Hunt Moore Kalas Baker Rowe Massengo Brownhill Palmer Weimann Afobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, spudski said: We've not won a game playing 352 all season...it's given our most draws. We've never lost playing 442 or 3142 442 has been our most prolific. Imo..LJ wants to play one way, but injuries have scuppered that. He's played to fit what's available...and it's worked. Leading up to the Huddersfield game, imo, LJ would never had played the team he did, if it wasn't for the results against West Brom and Forest and individual performances. They pretty much picked themselves. Imo...the team we played against Huddersfield is our most balanced right now. I cry fake news spud re formations I think you are being a bit devious here Spud. Whether it’s 532/5212/3412, it’s essentially 5 at the back or back 3 and wing-backs...as opposed to a back 4. And We change formations. I track the starting and predominant ending formation for every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I cry fake news spud re formations I think you are being a bit devious here Spud. Whether it’s 532/5212/3412, it’s essentially 5 at the back or back 3 and wing-backs...as opposed to a back 4. And We change formations. I track the starting and predominant ending formation for every game. :laugh:...maybe...I watch with my eyes and also use whoscored...who track how we set up at start and they note every formation change during a game and at what time. I find them to be the most reliable for game stats. Forgot to add...they have people at every game who supply the stats. Which are used by betting companies...so very reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, spudski said: :laugh:...maybe...I watch with my eyes and also use whoscored...who track how we set up at start and they note every formation change during a game and at what time. I find them to be the most reliable for game stats. Forgot to add...they have people at every game who supply the stats. Which are used by betting companies...so very reliable. In fairness Spud, I misread your post. Sorry, I thought you’d said we were unbeaten 442 or 4231....so my fault, I thought you were insinuating we never lose with a back 4, and draw with a back 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 The performance v Huddersfield was the most cohesive I’ve seen us in quite a while. Having Nagy and Massengo in midfield seemed to free up Brownhill, who had one of his great marauding games. Also Eliasson seemed to revel in being on the left rather than having to constantly cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: Derby Away was 3-5-2 1 hour ago, spudski said: Grrrrr...stop wasting my time...3412...Palmer, Weimann, Afobe. FFS 1 hour ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: Not how I saw it personally Bentley. Hunt Moore Kalas Baker Rowe Massengo Brownhill Palmer Weimann Afobe. With the greatest of respect “ohhhshauntaylor” - doesn’t that line up suggest it was 3-4-1-2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 To be fair to LJ he has made big changes to some games and it's won us the game. If he makes the right changes then it's worth doing. Just hope he learns from that awful WBA game, where our players looked all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: With the greatest of respect “ohhhshauntaylor” - doesn’t that line up suggest it was 3-4-1-2 ? A lot of people would call that 352. Palmer was coming so deep as well so wasn't exactly just behind the 2 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I really don’t mind what formation LJ plays just so long as he picks the players who are affective , know the game of their teammates and give it their all for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, JonDolman said: A lot of people would call that 352. Palmer was coming so deep as well so wasn't exactly just behind the 2 strikers. LJ often sets up with 3–5 - 2 as we saw against Huddersfield and it produced an attacking display which delighted every City fan. Very different from the drab and turgid displays we’ve been seeing at AG. 3 in midfield and two wing backs does provide width and an extra body which enables the likes of Brownhill to roam more freely..However the drawback is defensively. City conceded 2 against a modest team last match.......That said who cares if City concede 2 or 3 but score 3 or 4 themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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