Dullmoan Tone Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, RedDave said: Play offs is one of the best rule changes for sure. Imagine having nothing to aim for in February. How boring Glad you have mentioned the upside there is so much great stuff as well. European cup "leagues" mean much more football to watch between City games The new goal kick rule is better Multiple substitutions and bench sizes. The pitches and training facilities (including backroom specialists / coaches) Overseas players and managers - someone mentioned above the long tenure of UK managers in days gone by but we have seen what modern thinking can do - the "Wenger effect" and how more clubs can now challenge ie Blackburn, Leicester or even reach the Premier League (but perhaps not stay there) Community projects and sponsorships Edible food - how quickly we forget the greasy days gone by No longer expecting to be pelted with coins and other objects at away games No crushes in the East End Women in crowds Being able to see the match if you are young / short Scouting Ball Control / Fitness / Athleticism rather than fags at half time Longer player careers I'll take all that if it means putting up with a few halfwits looking at the phones all game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, poland_exile said: The normal smells. Used to love standing in the East End as a kid, getting there early and then slowly seeing it fill with cidered wurzels stinking of last night's curry, booze, fags and god knows what else. It would make me wretch anywhere else, but at football it was a heady mix. Eau De East End was remarkable. For a while I used to stand in the enclosure next to the players’ tunnel. Oh, the luxurious smell of liniment wafting through the air as the players ran out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Holding / wrestling at corners. It's a FOUL!! Yes, players have been impeded historically but a bear hug is a foul, end of. When it changed I don't know but it's easily fixed yet isn't. Start penalising defenders for holding, sorted!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, pongo88 said: For a while I used to stand in the enclosure next to the players’ tunnel. Oh, the luxurious smell of liniment wafting through the air as the players ran out. It's amazing to think, but football genuinely used to have it's own very unique aroma: from passing the chippy by the Rising Sun and the pungent stench of the geezers flogging The Post Special, to the noxious poisons drifting from the breeze block urinals of the East End... It was... just fabulous!!! And Boxing Day was always hilarious to smell all the geezers wearing their overdose of dodgy Christmas aftershave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, pongo88 said: For a while I used to stand in the enclosure next to the players’ tunnel. Oh, the luxurious smell of liniment wafting through the air as the players ran out. Bovril, I miss the smell of bovril at games. Can you still get it at the Gate nowadays I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Expected Goals and other similar statistical wibble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Forums, everyone is now an expert and you can be half way through reading a post when you realise it's a load of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Expected Goals and other similar statistical wibble. "Assists"...bloody Yankism that gets on my tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 hours ago, poland_exile said: It's amazing to think, but football genuinely used to have it's own very unique aroma: from passing the chippy by the Rising Sun and the pungent stench of the geezers flogging The Post Special, to the noxious poisons drifting from the breeze block urinals of the East End... It was... just fabulous!!! And Boxing Day was always hilarious to smell all the geezers wearing their overdose of dodgy Christmas aftershave Along with the smell of Slim Panatellas replacing Players No.6 for one day only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Along with the smell of Slim Panatellas replacing Players No.6 for one day only! oh my, you've nailed the sensations of my youth. I used to look very young (blimey, wish I still did), so on the persuasion of my mates I started smoking with Henry Winterman cigars in an attempt to look older. If ever you saw a 13-year-old kiddie choking on a cigar in the old east end, that'd have been me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Things wrong with modern football: Lack of dubbin used to keep boots soft, supple and waterproof. Balls far too light and lacking any laces to help mark the spot on your forehead where you need to "middle" headers. No screw in aluminium studs, capable of taking a chunk out of a defenders leg. Players far to slim and muscled so that in the skin tight shirts they wear today, they look nothing like the middle aged fans who wear replica kit to games. Players today are not fit enough. I put this down to the billiard table like pitches. In the "good old days" when pitches resembled weston beach with the tide out, players developed more strength and stamina from slogging through mud and sand for half a season. Modern players possess nothing like the skill of players of yesteryear. On a muddy, cut up pitch it took tremendous skill to be able to shin a shot towards goal when the ball bobbled up in the penalty area just when you were about to shoot - a skill I doubt many/any modern players possess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Reward for failure. Parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: "Assists"...bloody Yankism that gets on my tits. What would you call it then? Successful pass or cross that leads to a goal is...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Ashtonboy said: Reward for failure. Parachute payments. See both sides tbh. Think they're a necessary evil due to the sheer chasm between the two divisons. Could, indeed must they be reformed? Very much so IMO. People say 'Oh why don't players take paycuts' On relegation they generally do...even so though! Blame breakaway and creation of PL for bringing their need into existence ultimately. A need that has only increased in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: What would you call it then? Successful pass or cross that leads to a goal is...what? How far do you want to go? Someone passes to the "assistor", so why aren't they credited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Cowshed said: A perfect storm that did not exist during decades when crowd figures also dropped. Football did have spikes where attendances nationally rose then dropped post 66 and 90 logically due to the national team. There are lots of variables over decades. Across society other forms of leisure also experienced declining attendances over extended periods e.g. swimming pools and cinema. Its quite lazy to blame decade upon decade of declining attendance on facilities and hooliganism. Its clearly a far more complex picture than facilities and violence. I with respect cannot clearly understand the points you are making. Agreed, there were many factors for sure. Pur it this way though, I hardly think that the hooligan issue, in certain regions especially the unemployment issue and for some I guess, the facilities issue helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: How far do you want to go? Someone passes to the "assistor", so why aren't they credited? In many cases, without the pass/cross/through ball, the goal won't be scored. Fact it wasn't recognised before did creators a bit of a disservice IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 i just came 2nd in a groucho marks lookalike competition. I came close no cigar! Suprising how many clubs who had parachute payments have struggled last few years. Stoke be lucky to stay up this year the way they playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: In many cases, without the pass/cross/through ball, the goal won't be scored. Fact it wasn't recognised before did creators a bit of a disservice IMO. We'll just have to agree to disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: How far do you want to go? Someone passes to the "assistor", so why aren't they credited? At last! A sensible use for VAR. After all, it`s **** all use for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 04/12/2019 at 11:34, One Team said: 1. Sitting down. Actually prefer this now I'm 55 with a dodgy knee 2. VAR. Reasonable idea but implemented wrong. Should be rethought and limited in scope. 3. Goal music. Agree 4. Entrance music. We've had this since the 70s, or is it the specific choice of music you don't like? 5. Half and half scarves. Agree 6. Ticket prices. Agree 7. Lights on in the stand for night games. I've only noticed safety lights. TBH they don't bother me. 8. Lunchtime kick offs. Agree 9. Sanitising atmosphere. Probably better than a threatening/racist/disgusting atmosphere 10. Away allocations. Don't give a shit For all that there are also some truly great things about modern football as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 4th Place!! The Holy Grail All you hear now is you must finish in the top 4 England finished 4th in last world cup and got what 4th deserves Duck all Just hope our Olympic boys and girls dont get into that mentality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 Diving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Inequality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Did anybody here ever win on the 25p scratch cards? I heard of someone winning a fiver once but never saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 The champions league final being between 2 teams, neither of which is actually champion of their own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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