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CyderInACan

Flares at Fulham

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Really thought 70s football culture was behind us.. Looked bad then, let alone now!! 

 

Agree with OP tho.. We are doing so well on the pitch let's not ruin it with our antics off it. Esp as this could result in fines. 

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Kipper ties at the Top Rank.

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I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. 

There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things.

We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them?

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16 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. 

There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things.

We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them?

Ask your mate Boris he now likes football 

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20 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. 

There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things.

We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them?

Is this really the case. In other countries do people not have health problems??????

snowflake land we live in now. 
 

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Snowflake>Criminal

The pros and cons of pyro can be debated I’m sure, however it is illegal.  **** all to do with being a ‘snowflake’.

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1 minute ago, Bristolboy_06 said:

embarrassing thread, a few smoke bombs and everyone is crying🤦🏻‍♂️ get a grip for **** sake 

Doesn't matter unless club gets in the shit that's the point. 

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9 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Snowflake>Criminal

The pros and cons of pyro can be debated I’m sure, however it is illegal.  **** all to do with being a ‘snowflake’.

And football behaviour is treated differently to 'real life' 

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1 hour ago, BCFC-Tom said:

But but but they improve the atmosphere and are so amazing.....

 

Who really cares.

The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now 

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If you need a flare to enjoy that, there's something wrong.

Nothing against them really but unnecessary to enjoy the moment.

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2 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Who really cares.

The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now 

The police and the League cares, is that not enough?

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9 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Who really cares.

The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now 

It’s not an over reaction when we’ve been warned a few times by the efl/fa

they will fine us again or could even dock us points if they wanted too 

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5 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Good for them.

 

Bonfire ‘fortnight’ was a while ago now, just selfish indulgent behaviour which will get the club fined again. Hopefully the children who let them off get identified, get a banning order and then get to stay home to let as many flares off in their garage as they like - just as well set firs to £10 notes. 

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6 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said:

If we win every time a flare goes off, that is fine by me!! 
Cant stand sterile football ground atmospheres. 

Well mount a campaign to get it legalised then, with evidence it’s safe, as people are with safe standing.  Don’t promote it at a time when it is illegal and the consequences for the individuals and club may well be serious.

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5 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Well mount a campaign to get it legalised then, with evidence it’s safe, as people are with safe standing.  Don’t promote it at a time when it is illegal and the consequences for the individuals and club may well be serious.

I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones 😀😀😀 

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3 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said:

I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones 😀😀😀

Feel free to bring them round my house so we can set them off together. If we do it in an enclosed space, and I hold them next to your skin you can then tell me how fun they are 😊

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8 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

Feel free to bring them round my house so we can set them off together. If we do it in an enclosed space, and I hold them next to your skin you can then tell me how fun they are 😊

Usually use petrol on larger jobs

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We always win when I go to Fulham. The other thing that always seems to happen there is a red smoke bomb regularly lands at my feet following a goal.

"We've scored, what shall I do with this smoke bomb?"

"Chuck it at that tall bloke again".

Thanks lads :(

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5 minutes ago, Ecko said:

We win away and the first thing you do is moan...get a ******* grip

Not moaning about the win though is he, just something we have been warned about previously and that earlier in the season Or end of last caused a young supporter to feel ill...do you condone younger fans having to sit out some of the game?

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Flares- or more accurately, pyro, smoke bombs, other smoke devices small yet coloured.

They can add to things and I do see an appeal...a key problem is that while they're illegal, and against EFL/FA regs they can get the club in trouble.

It's surely a remote possibility but just imagine we got a points deduction over it at some stage this season given our persistent reputation for it?

Overall,  Ive no vast issue with it as a concept- save for the below.

Despite that, this IS a risk and hopefully those who think of doing it will think twice as things are going really well on the pitch, infrastructure wise, business wise- don't need anything to risk derailing things no matter how low a risk it may seem now or at the time of consideration. 

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7 hours ago, GasDestroyer said:

I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones 😀😀😀 

Not the brightest comment considering that’s what killed someone at the Welsh International against Romania.
 

Some ******* imbeciles on here. 

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Do some clubs and indeed the FA not have pyro displays before matches, feet away from many fans? and are they not explosions/fire and smoke? and dont forget those bubbles they can get right in your eye.

Then there is the hot tea/coffee wouldnt fancy that down my back or in my face,

Just a bit ott with H AND S imo, much more chance of you being in a car accident on the way to a game than being fried by a flare.

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49 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Do some clubs and indeed the FA not have pyro displays before matches, feet away from many fans? and are they not explosions/fire and smoke? and dont forget those bubbles they can get right in your eye.

Then there is the hot tea/coffee wouldnt fancy that down my back or in my face,

Just a bit ott with H AND S imo, much more chance of you being in a car accident on the way to a game than being fried by a flare.

Ones used ina controller Environment set up and run by professionals 

the other is ******** who don’t want to actually watch football but spoil it and get the club into trouble

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What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go 

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49 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go 

Few are moaning about doing it per se. It's the fact that the club could get in trouble. 

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9 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

Few are moaning about doing it per se. It's the fact that the club could get in trouble. 

This tbh.

Also to add that it means a reasonable possibility of stronger searches etc for all, while the law remains as it is.

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59 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go 

It is a big deal as, when a flare is thrown / set off, there is no guarantee whether someone will be hurt or not.  It’s also illegal and the person responsible, if caught, will fined and banned from attending football matches.(There is CCTV at every match which flare throwers seem to forget).  The club may also be punished. As for the  flares and smoke bombs themselves, there are different sorts, with some being far more dangerous than others. It’s extremely unlikely that a flare thrower will conduct a risk assessment before purchasing the flare, as illustrated by @GasDestroyer’s comment about buying ship- to-shore flares. 

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17 hours ago, Bristolboy_06 said:

embarrassing thread, a few smoke bombs and everyone is crying🤦🏻‍♂️ get a grip for **** sake 

I expect your a young kid, who doesn't give a fxxk about older folk with health or breathing problems, goes to show stewards at Fulham not doing there jobs properly,

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50 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

goes to show stewards at Fulham not doing there jobs properly,

In fairness, some of them can be very hard to detect, compact indeed. Not all certainly, but from what I've read or pictures I've seen if well hidden away then detection is very difficult. 

Hence the pyro dogs which also failed to spot them it seems. Security theatre I wonder?

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18 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I guess the idiots at this concert thought it was so clever as well, but maybe not so the poor girl whose clothes were set on fire

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50490458

people who don't give a shit about other fans welfare don't deserve the right to attend. thanks for finding the link.theres still those that say yes they are fine,even when this happens.what would they think if they seriously injured someone elses child. still billy big boots then??

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16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

In fairness, some of them can be very hard to detect, compact indeed. Not all certainly, but from what I've read or pictures I've seen if well hidden away then detection is very difficult. 

Hence the pyro dogs which also failed to spot them it seems. Security theatre I wonder?

Yep. Just for show......unless there is a way of bypassing the dogs and getting them in after the turnstiles.

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10 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

Yep. Just for show......unless there is a way of bypassing the dogs and getting them in after the turnstiles.

Well,  I've no idea how effective use of them is as a rule, but didn't work yesterday it seems?

Visual deterrence may have been a better term, what I was getting at than security theatre tbh.

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