southvillekiddy Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 We beat the third placed team away then next game lose at home to a mid-table team. Unless we are able to stop doing this we do not deserve to be in the top flight. You would think this is a coaching issue? and a sports psychology issue? A good team can take the energy of an exciting win (at Fulham) and control it so as to avoid a banana skin in the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Indeed, the wonders of the championship. The best teams in the league don't blow hot and cold. Striker in January, keep the performance levels up and we might be in the playoff mix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Indeed, the wonders of the championship. The best teams in the league don't blow hot and cold. Striker in January, keep the performance levels up and we might be in the playoff mix... Hope you are right mate because we are in an even better position this season than when we bottled getting big signings at Christmas two years ago. I wonder what Ashton and Sir Steve are planning Please not consolidation, consolidation, consolidation again, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: Hope you are right mate because we are in an even better position this season than when we bottled getting big signings at Christmas two years ago. I wonder what Ashton and Sir Steve are planning Please not consolidation, consolidation, consolidation again, again. Too much consolidation leads to constipation. And last night, some of them played like they had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Too much consolidation leads to constipation. And last night, some of them played like they had it. That's what they say about syncopation - "a bowel condition brought on by playing too much jazz". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: That's what they say about syncopation - "a bowel condition brought on by playing too much jazz". For me it's a bowel movement brought on by listening to Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 20 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: psychology issue? Definitely a mentality thing... Inherited group psyche,,taking on characteristics of the collective??.. One thing I know is I don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, BigTone said: For me it's a bowel movement brought on by listening to Jazz And the visit to that curry house next door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, BigTone said: For me it's a bowel movement brought on by listening to Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, BigTone said: For me it's a bowel movement brought on by listening to Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 21 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: We beat the third placed team away then next game lose at home to a mid-table team. Unless we are able to stop doing this we do not deserve to be in the top flight. You would think this is a coaching issue? and a sports psychology issue? A good team can take the energy of an exciting win (at Fulham) and control it so as to avoid a banana skin in the next game It has been a City habit for as long as I have watched them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: It has been a City habit for as long as I have watched them. Some would have Monk as boss but could we kick the habit? i'll get me coat, umm habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 22 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: We beat the third placed team away then next game lose at home to a mid-table team. .......... You make it sound as though Millwall is an average to poor team. Yes, the club is mid table but it’s only 5 points behind City. Millwall’s recent form under new manager Gary Rowett is better than City’s with 12 points from the last 6 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, pongo88 said: You make it sound as though Millwall is an average to poor team. Yes, the club is mid table but it’s only 5 points behind City. Millwall’s recent form under new manager Gary Rowett is better than City’s with 12 points from the last 6 matches. Okay mate. I didn't make anything sound like anything. I didn't comment on Millwall's ability I said they were mid -table. There are no easy games in this League but which was the more difficult game Fulham Away or Millwall at home? Would you say Millwall are a better side than Fulham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Okay mate. I didn't make anything sound like anything. I didn't comment on Millwall's ability I said they were mid -table. There are no easy games in this League but which was the more difficult game Fulham Away or Millwall at home? Would you say Millwall are a better side than Fulham? Based on current form Fulham and Millwall are equal, with both achieving 12 points from the last 6 matches. It’s current form that counts not league position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 22 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: We beat the third placed team away then next game lose at home to a mid-table team. Unless we are able to stop doing this we do not deserve to be in the top flight. You would think this is a coaching issue? and a sports psychology issue? A good team can take the energy of an exciting win (at Fulham) and control it so as to avoid a banana skin in the next game To be fair Millwall were in good form, just as good as Fulham and us so I wasn’t surprised it was a tough game, and Millwall played very well, last 6 games form guide is this, so not getting easier with Blackburn to play Saturday! 1 West Bromwich Albion 6 +12 18 2 Leeds United 6 +11 18 3 Blackburn Rovers 6 +4 15 4 Cardiff City 6 +4 13 5 Fulham 6 +4 12 6 Millwall 6 +3 12 7 Bristol City 6 +1 10 8 Brentford 6 +8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I do worry that if we lose to an in form Blackburn, that's 3 defeats in 5... a bruising scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, mozo said: I do worry that if we lose to an in form Blackburn, that's 3 defeats in 5... a bruising scenario. Not as bad as losing 4 in 5, and still in top 6....... Preston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: Based on current form Fulham and Millwall are equal, with both achieving 12 points from the last 6 matches. It’s current form that counts not league position How do you explain Leeds and West Brom being 1st and 2nd if League position isn't important? Their "current" form has been consistent for 21 games. That's my main point. We're inconsistent, brilliant away, poor at home. Why? Can you explain it please. Maybe I didn't emphasise this sufficiently but it's our home form that is so disappointing. Looking at the season so far we could have been at least clear 3rd or challenging for 2nd if we had not lost or drawn at home to teams beneath us? Draws with: Brum Swans Wigan Middlesborough Loss to: Hull City that represents 11 points lost which would have put us on 46 points, 3rd place on goal difference and miles clear of 4th.. I imagine many on here would agree that City are frequently disappointing at Home. This is a major issue for the Club if we are to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 To put things into context we are currently 4th in the Championship in case no one had noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 14 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: How do you explain Leeds and West Brom being 1st and 2nd if League position isn't important? Their "current" form has been consistent for 21 games. That's my main point. We're inconsistent, brilliant away, poor at home. Why? Can you explain it please. Maybe I didn't emphasise this sufficiently but it's our home form that is so disappointing. Looking at the season so far we could have been at least clear 3rd or challenging for 2nd if we had not lost or drawn at home to teams beneath us? Draws with: Brum Swans Wigan Middlesborough Loss to: Hull City that represents 11 points lost which would have put us on 46 points, 3rd place on goal difference and miles clear of 4th.. I imagine many on here would agree that City are frequently disappointing at Home. This is a major issue for the Club if we are to progress. Err... Birmingham- this was away. Hull? Won 3-1 there. Additionally, if we're going down that road a bit- Leeds lost at home to Swansea. West Brom drew away to Wigan just last night! Football- Higher ranked side beats lesser side? Doesn't work like that- this League less than ever! West Brom also drew at home to Millwall and Reading...Leeds lost at Millwall. That 11 points looks a bit less now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I say this regularly. Our players, on their day, are good but they don't perform at their top level every week so if a couple are on an "off" day the team plays badly and looses - pretty obvious. My argument is this. If the bulk of our players performed at their best week in week out they would not be at Bristol City they would be playing in the Prem. Only the "big" teams in the championship can attract and hold onto players who regularly perform to the levels ours do when on there game. Like it or not we are not one of the "big" teams so we end up with talented but inconsistent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Err... Birmingham- this was away. Hull? Won 3-1 there. Additionally, if we're going down that road a bit- Leeds lost at home to Swansea. West Brom drew away to Wigan just last night! Football- Higher ranked side beats lesser side? Doesn't work like that- this League less than ever! West Brom also drew at home to Millwall and Reading...Leeds lost at Millwall. That 11 points looks a bit less now. Thing is mate you are not addressing the big picture. Why have we struggled to establish a Home advantage under LJ presently but also stretching back into the past? There is a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, southvillekiddy said: Thing is mate you are not addressing the big picture. Why have we struggled to establish a Home advantage under LJ presently but also stretching back into the past? There is a problem? Counterattacking styles will play a role with that- much easier to do this when you don't or your game plan isn't centred around control of the ball, the game. Not that it's a catchall solution but it can help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 "This is what always makes I wee about following City" Are you the bugger sitting two rows in front of me, with his half-hourly trips to the lavvy every match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 18 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: Okay mate. I didn't make anything sound like anything. I didn't comment on Millwall's ability I said they were mid -table. There are no easy games in this League but which was the more difficult game Fulham Away or Millwall at home? Would you say Millwall are a better side than Fulham? The big problem is this league just doesn't work like that. Surely we've been in it long enough to know that? This is not a Bristol City problem, it happens to pretty much everyone in this league. That's not making excuses for it, it's just really important to know it's not exclusive to us. I see that because I cover the entire division, not just follow Bristol City around. Believe me, it's incredibly difficult to back up good results over and over again. Only West Bromwich Albion and Leeds United have been able to do it and they are, without doubt, the best in the division. I have to point out, too, that we've only suffered back-to-back losses twice in 13 months. Not bad considering the "streaky Johnson" tag and suggests we're way more consistent than we give our own team credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Journalist said: The big problem is this league just doesn't work like that. Surely we've been in it long enough to know that? This is not a Bristol City problem, it happens to pretty much everyone in this league. That's not making excuses for it, it's just really important to know it's not exclusive to us. I see that because I cover the entire division, not just follow Bristol City around. Believe me, it's incredibly difficult to back up good results over and over again. Only West Bromwich Albion and Leeds United have been able to do it and they are, without doubt, the best in the division. I have to point out, too, that we've only suffered back-to-back losses twice in 13 months. Not bad considering the "streaky Johnson" tag. Quite right- and even they aren't infallible! Leeds lost to Charlton, Millwall and Swansea this season e.g. West Brom drew with Wigan albeit away, as well as at home- yes at home- vs Reading, Millwall and Barnsley. Nature of the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 22:41, southvillekiddy said: Hope you are right mate because we are in an even better position this season than when we bottled getting big signings at Christmas two years ago. I wonder what Ashton and Sir Steve are planning Please not consolidation, consolidation, consolidation again, again. Oh dear. This again. Could we have spent the money in January 2018 better? Very much so! Would be interested to see the financial workings, in line with FFP and in the knowledge that at that time, there was the very real risk at that time of in-season points deductions, or demotions from top 2 or top 6 for breaches and especially significant ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Oh dear. This again. Could we have spent the money in January 2018 better? Very much so! Would be interested to see the financial workings, in line with FFP and in the knowledge that at that time, there was the very real risk at that time of in-season points deductions, or demotions from top 2 or top 6 for breaches and especially significant ones! You got evidence to support that view mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: "This is what always makes I wee about following City" Are you the bugger sitting two rows in front of me, with his half-hourly trips to the lavvy every match? Got I in one. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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