Super Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 The end of the first half when Brownhill was playing like a wing back and Rowe was in CM took the biscuit for me. Was similar on Tuesday. What the **** were we doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 To be fair Nagy and Massengo did alright against Huddersfield and Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Super said: Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful. Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just said this on another thread,all talented but it’s not working for some reason or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games? Did you watch millwall and blackburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games? Yes,did we boss midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games? Huddersfield are shit mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Super said: Did you watch millwall and blackburn? Yes but the first two examples proved they can play together. 4 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Huddersfield are shit mate Before we played them they’d lost 1 in 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Don't get why LJ didn't play Korey in there. I was expecting Korey and Brownhill in midfield today. We have a squad be we haven't really used it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 There is a reason why it worked against Huddersfield and Fulham but not Millwall and Blackburn. The latter were happy to put the ball up in the air knowing they could bully both Nagy and Massengo and win every ball. Nagy was awful and Massengo looked terrified to do anything in the last 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 We have to rest Massengo - he’s young he started well, he holds the ball up, but makes so few forward key passes. i know he was terrible Tuesday but let’s try Kasey - it cannot be worse than today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that? Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that? What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement? Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him. Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well. Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 One criticism of LJ has always been that he tinkers too much. These last 2 games were the right opportunity to tinker, at least with the midfield...Massengo was awful and definitely needs a rest. Brownhill on the right doesn’t work at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Brownhill is so overrated and is core to our powder puff midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Super said: Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful. Truly awful in midfield today . All are very good players, but all a bit fragile for the Championship. Easily caught in possession today. Gave the ball away countless times even when not being pressed. Brownhill was not in the game at all. Shame as looked so promising against Huddersfield. Crying out for a fit Korey Smith and even Joe Morrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Prinny said: Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that? Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that? What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement? Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him. Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well. Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations. Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, BCFCinNW6 said: Brownhill is so overrated and is core to our powder puff midfield. To be fair, he’s been pushed out of position for an 18 year old who is great technically but afraid to head the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, marcofisher said: To be fair, he’s been pushed out of position for an 18 year old who is great technically but afraid to head the ball. This is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooko Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, Smokey said: To be fair Nagy and Massengo did alright against Huddersfield and Fulham. Smokey, to be fair they did ok against a dire side and a good side having a bad day. The gushy hype around Nagy and Massengo, for me, has been embarrassing. If LJ persists in selecting them week after week we are going nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Huddersfield are shit mate They still put 2 past us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Prinny said: Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that? Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that? What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement? Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him. Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well. Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations. Because it was the only way to get the ball. He may as well got out a deckchair otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Brooko said: Smokey, to be fair they did ok against a dire side and a good side having a bad day. The gushy hype around Nagy and Massengo, for me, has been embarrassing. If LJ persists in selecting them week after week we are going nowhere Nagy is a massive upgrade of Pack apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said: Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above. Exactly this. zero movement.woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, Prinny said: Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that? Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that? What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement? Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him. Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well. Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations. I actually think Weimann needs to come deep more often. He was awful up top with Diedhiou. We don't have a player in that attacking midfield position that a number 10 should be taking up. So our midfielders don't have many forward passing options. We pretty much just go down the right wing at the moment. Time to scrap 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, RedDave said: Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games? Is that going to be the response after a bit of criticism from now on? We’ve played well I’d say 6 out of 22 games. That’s not good enough for the squad we have and if we’re serious about a play off place. We’re currently 7th but I can only see us go one way at the moment! It’s been absolutely painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, David Brent said: One criticism of LJ has always been that he tinkers too much. These last 2 games were the right opportunity to tinker, at least with the midfield...Massengo was awful and definitely needs a rest. Brownhill on the right doesn’t work at home. Blackburn made SIX changes today from Wednesday night. They looked a lot sharper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsocks Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Were is korey smith.2 shit performances from our midfielders and still he sits on the bench.like I said before he is still the best midfielder we have so come on Johnson play him before our season goes tits up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said: Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above. We did this the entire match and not just in the midfield. The lack of basic pass and move play today was criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Is that going to be the response after a bit of criticism from now on? We’ve played well I’d say 6 out of 22 games. That’s not good enough for the squad we have and if we’re serious about a play off place. We’re currently 7th but I can only see us go one way at the moment! It’s been absolutely painful to watch. The response was to the statement that Nagy and Massengo cannot play with each other so I don’t know what you’re on about. They have played well together twice so clearly they are able too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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