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Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful.

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The end of the first half when Brownhill was playing like a wing back and Rowe was in CM took the biscuit for me. Was similar on Tuesday.  What the **** were we doing?

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5 minutes ago, Super said:

Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful.

Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games?

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1 minute ago, RedDave said:

Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games?

Did you watch millwall and blackburn?

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4 minutes ago, Super said:

Did you watch millwall and blackburn?

Yes but the first two examples proved they can play together. 

4 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Huddersfield are shit mate

Before we played them they’d lost 1 in 10 

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There is a reason why it worked against Huddersfield and Fulham but not Millwall and Blackburn. The latter were happy to put the ball up in the air knowing they could bully both Nagy and Massengo and win every ball.

Nagy was awful and Massengo looked terrified to do anything in the last 30 minutes. 

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Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that?

Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that?

What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement?

Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him.

Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well.

Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations.

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One criticism of LJ has always been that he tinkers too much. These last 2 games were the right opportunity to tinker, at least with the midfield...Massengo was awful and definitely needs a rest. Brownhill on the right doesn’t work at home. 

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18 minutes ago, Super said:

Absolutely terrible. Massengo and Nagy clearly cant play together. Brownhill shifted from centre to left then to the right. None of them pick up runners. No positives truly dreadful.

Truly awful in midfield today . All are very good players, but all a bit fragile for the Championship. Easily caught in possession today. Gave  the ball away countless times even when not being pressed. Brownhill was not in the game at all. Shame as looked so promising against Huddersfield. Crying out for a fit Korey Smith and even Joe Morrell. 

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9 minutes ago, Prinny said:

Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that?

Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that?

What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement?

Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him.

Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well.

Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations.

Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above.

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7 minutes ago, BCFCinNW6 said:

Brownhill is so overrated and is core to our powder puff midfield. 

To be fair, he’s been pushed out of position for an 18 year old who is great technically but afraid to head the ball.

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29 minutes ago, Smokey said:

To be fair Nagy and Massengo did alright against Huddersfield and Fulham.

Smokey, to be fair they did ok against a dire side and a good side having a bad day. The gushy hype around Nagy and Massengo, for me, has been embarrassing. If LJ persists in selecting them week after week we are going nowhere 

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21 minutes ago, Prinny said:

Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that?

Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that?

What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement?

Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him.

Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well.

Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations.

Because it was the only way to get the ball. He may as well got out a deckchair otherwise!

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17 minutes ago, Brooko said:

Smokey, to be fair they did ok against a dire side and a good side having a bad day. The gushy hype around Nagy and Massengo, for me, has been embarrassing. If LJ persists in selecting them week after week we are going nowhere 

Nagy is a massive upgrade of Pack apparently.

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28 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said:

Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above.

Exactly this.

zero movement.woeful.

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43 minutes ago, Prinny said:

Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that?

Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that?

What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement?

Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him.

Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well.

Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations.

I actually think Weimann needs to come deep more often. He was awful up top with Diedhiou. We don't have a player in that attacking midfield position that a number 10 should be taking up. So our midfielders don't have many forward passing options. We pretty much just go down the right wing at the moment. Time to scrap 442.

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51 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games?

Is that going to be the response after a bit of criticism from now on?

We’ve played well I’d say 6 out of 22 games. That’s not good enough for the squad we have and if we’re serious about a play off place. We’re currently 7th but I can only see us go one way at the moment!

It’s been absolutely painful to watch.

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50 minutes ago, David Brent said:

One criticism of LJ has always been that he tinkers too much. These last 2 games were the right opportunity to tinker, at least with the midfield...Massengo was awful and definitely needs a rest. Brownhill on the right doesn’t work at home. 

Blackburn made SIX changes today from Wednesday night.

They looked a lot sharper.

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Were is korey smith.2 shit performances from our midfielders and still he sits on the bench.like I said before he is still the best midfielder we have so come on Johnson play him before our season goes tits up again.

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38 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said:

Re Nagy, you’re spot on. To be fair to him he was the only midfielder willing to take the ball from Williams/Kalas. The problem was when he got the ball and looked forwards, I’m pretty sure he would have seen 6 or 7 red shirted players staring at him and not moving. Therefore he either tried a risky ball forward and lost it, or gave it back to the CBs and repeated the above.

We did this the entire match and not just in the midfield. The lack of basic pass and move play today was criminal.

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7 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Is that going to be the response after a bit of criticism from now on?

We’ve played well I’d say 6 out of 22 games. That’s not good enough for the squad we have and if we’re serious about a play off place. We’re currently 7th but I can only see us go one way at the moment!

It’s been absolutely painful to watch.

The response was to the statement that Nagy and Massengo cannot play with each other so I don’t know what you’re on about. They have played well together twice so clearly they are able too 

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1 hour ago, Lew-T said:

Blackburn made SIX changes today from Wednesday night.

They looked a lot sharper.

You'd have thought the Millwall game on Tuesday was a clear indication that LJ needed to change the midfield today, some players desperately needed a rest. He's started the same four in there for the last four games. COD and Smith should've started for Nagy and HNM

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Mid-field? 

Havent seen one of those since I went to Fulham?

Play it out from the back then lump it forward to nobody then stand off as the opposition advance. 

Sick of it....

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2 hours ago, redsocks said:

Were is korey smith.2 shit performances from our midfielders and still he sits on the bench.like I said before he is still the best midfielder we have so come on Johnson play him before our season goes tits up again.

Totally agree... the answer there in front of him, bet he chomping at the bit to earn a contract n still in my eyes the best midfielder we got

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1 hour ago, scrumpy88 said:

Brownhill chips in with the odd goal but apart from that goes missing too often, Must be agent talk that prem clubs are interested, no where near that level yet 

This!!!! I just fail to see the hype. 
If we are being offered huge sums then i’m sorry, snap their hands off!

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3 hours ago, Prinny said:

Condensed space due to lack of forwards having the ability to stretch the play. Why is Andi Weimann dropping short? How do we score when he does that?

Lack of ball playing central defender to create space. Kalas was horrific. Williams had to bring the ball forwards, how does he get back if he does that?

What is Massengo meant to do? He's not going to burst past people. I thought he was the worst of the three by a mile. He looked his age today. Where was his movement?

Nagy played terribly but he was the one turning and trying to play forwards. He also had to come collect the ball of the central defenders all the time. He was doing his Marlon Pack impression, it was awful, by that i mean it looked just like him.

Brownhill on the left I'm happy to pan LJ for. Brownhill and Hunt, or Pereira and Eliasson. Pick one for the right hand side. The other combos don't work so well.

Us at 1-0 down to a big quick pressing team was always going to look like that. But when we're ahead it looks great. So pick your poison unless you believe we have players for all situations.

Spot on.

kalas clearly not fit and it showed. I know fans desperate for attacking football at home  but if there was ever a day for 5 3 2 it was today and Tuesday. 
 


 

 

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Midfield full of show ponies. 

Brilliant at tippy tappy football but not one of them put their foot in hard over the past two home games 

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Harsh to blame Brownhill when he is made to play on the left then the right. Was playing more LB than Rowe in the first half

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15 minutes ago, Super said:

Harsh to blame Brownhill when he is made to play on the left then the right. Was playing more LB than Rowe in the first half

LJ’s poison chalice, too many players out of position - COD coming on should have an effect on the game, but he’s not a defensive player

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On 14/12/2019 at 22:09, phantom said:

Midfield full of show ponies. 

Brilliant at tippy tappy football but not one of them put their foot in hard over the past two home games 

Interceptions and intense pressing in periods can supersede the going in hard a bit to then give a bit of a platform for the more possession based play.

Problem is, we didn't do that either!

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Reading this back, and seeing everyone stating how shite Huddersfield are. 

 

Last 14 games:

Huddersfield won-5 drawn-6 lost-3

21 points

 

Our last 14 games:

City won-5 drawn-5 lost-4

20 points 

 

 

What are we then? 

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On 14/12/2019 at 17:53, RedDave said:

Did you watch Huddersfield or Fulham games?

 

On 14/12/2019 at 17:55, Super said:

Did you watch millwall and blackburn?

These are common spats on here - but they are usually between people who watch the games on dodgy live streams and post on here every few minutes during the games - continually looking down at a keyboard means it’s even more obvious they are not watching the games properly...it’s impossible  to accurately assess a midfield partnership by just watching a stream that follows the ball ... sorry to stick my hooter in ...

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10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

 

These are common spats on here - but they are usually between people who watch the games on dodgy live streams and post on here every few minutes during the games - continually looking down at a keyboard means it’s even more obvious they are not watching the games properly...it’s impossible  to accurately assess a midfield partnership by just watching a stream that follows the ball ... sorry to stick my hooter in ...

Thank god im not one of them!

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