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ScottishRed

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Sometimes he does dribble the ball with his ankles/shins I swear. Like Weimann does everything at 100 miles an hour. 
 

Couple of great interceptions tbf. 

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4 minutes ago, mightyreds89 said:

Oddly me and those around me thought he was probably our weakest player today, funny how everyone sees it so differently. 

Agree that he wasn’t quite on song today. Doesn’t look quite the same player as we saw at the beginning of the season, especially going forward. 

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1 hour ago, mightyreds89 said:

Oddly me and those around me thought he was probably our weakest player today, funny how everyone sees it so differently. 

Totally agree. I thought he was good until his ‘break’ but since then I really don’t see what the fuss is about. One of the weakest performances today. 

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1 hour ago, mightyreds89 said:

Love to see his completed passes stats first half couldn’t find a red shirt first 30 mins. I like Naggy but since Fulham away games have just passed him by. 
 

He probably had more touches than anyone vs Millwall

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I don’t think he was amazing today. He does a lot of unseen work I think. He covers so much ground for one in a defensive manner and quickly too. So I wouldn’t say he was poor more just disappointed the quality of his passing wasn’t there today. 

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Thing is he’s had a move to a new country, had an injury hampering his settling in and had some trouble getting back to fitness. 

He looks to me like someone who is still settling and needs a bit of time to find a rhythm and routine. At times his touch is clumsy and his sharpness clearly is not 100% there but he did what he needed to do today. I think he is someone who will always be a little unnoticed in a lot of the better stuff he does - in the sense it is about the positions he takes up and the opposition attacks that then do not start in the first place but I thought he was decent enough yesterday, particularly given his stop-start beginning to his time with us.

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Wow what differences of opinion! 

This is the sort of post many people enjoy about this forum. I thought he was really good, whereas he was SUPERB at Fulham then 'mixed' at Charlton where he was pants first half and effective second half.  

I like the bloke in our team with Brownhill but like most of us we dont agree on the 'Best 11 at home' nir the 'Best 11 away'. Fortunately we have one man in charge who does and gets it more right than wrong.

Eliasson, Massengo, Smith, CoD, Rowe, loanees, - so many options for that one or two remaining spot

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1 minute ago, Hampshire Red said:

Wow what differences of opinion! 

This is the sort of post many people enjoy about this forum. I thought he was really good, whereas he was SUPERB at Fulham then 'mixed' at Charlton where he was pants first half and effective second half.  

I like the bloke in our team with Brownhill but like most of us we dont agree on the 'Best 11 at home' nir the 'Best 11 away'. Fortunately we have one man in charge who does and gets it more right than wrong.

Eliasson, Massengo, Smith, CoD, Rowe, loanees, - so many options for that one or two remaining spot

I don’t even agree with myself on what our best eleven is...

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3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Thing is he’s had a move to a new country, had an injury hampering his settling in and had some trouble getting back to fitness. 

He looks to me like someone who is still settling and needs a bit of time to find a rhythm and routine. At times his touch is clumsy and his sharpness clearly is not 100% there but he did what he needed to do today. I think he is someone who will always be a little unnoticed in a lot of the better stuff he does - in the sense it is about the positions he takes up and the opposition attacks that then do not start in the first place but I thought he was decent enough yesterday, particularly given his stop-start beginning to his time with us.

Exactly my thoughts LB.

I thought he was decent yesterday, not spectacular but he had a very reasonable game.  We have to remember that he’s new to the Championship and with his injuries restricting his game time he’s not fully adapted the hurly burly just yet.

One thing I really noticed yesterday was just how slight he is. At one point he was near the Dolman and we got a close look at him. There’s not much to see! He looked as if he could do with a few more hearty meals in his diet.

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I realise this is a bit of a ‘jam tomorrow’ thought, but I think he would benefit from a little bulk being added and also a full pre season with us. I think there is a slight tendency to be bullied when defending at the mo, but agree his first thought on the ball is positive, which makes him an asset.

Also interesting that LJ mentioned Dasilva having been working hard in the gym. 

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5 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Also interesting that LJ mentioned Dasilva having been working hard in the gym. 

I have this inappropriate vision of the pair of them hanging from a bar with weights tied to their feet.

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20 hours ago, bengalcub said:

Thought he was average today , im still unconvinced hes that mich of an upgrade on pack .... definatly worse in the air .

He’s obviously going to be worse in the air with his height. What he does do is cover more ground and recovers the ball a lot better. He always makes himself available and tries risks with passing which is hard to do when sometimes there is no movement in the final third. Thought he was our best starting player against Charlton, but wasn’t great against Blackburn.

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58 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

He’s obviously going to be worse in the air with his height. What he does do is cover more ground and recovers the ball a lot better. He always makes himself available and tries risks with passing which is hard to do when sometimes there is no movement in the final third. Thought he was our best starting player against Charlton, but wasn’t great against Blackburn.

I’d say he’s almost 6 foot.  Stood next to him a few times and he’s taller than he looks.  But he runs hunched over, so looks shorter.

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8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I’d say he’s almost 6 foot.  Stood next to him a few times and he’s taller than he looks.  But he runs hunched over, so looks shorter.

5 foot 10 according to Wiki.

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In terms of technical ability there isn't any other player in the squad anywhere close to him other than Massengo.

Both those players receive the ball with their body position such that they receive and move - not receive, control, turn, then move.

Excellent player and probably a cut above BCFC as is Massengo.

He just needs to cut his cloth and try to fit in with the dross in the second tier of English hoof ball.

 

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11 minutes ago, Fatalist said:

5 foot 10 according to Wiki.

What’s a couple of inches between friends 👀

8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

In terms of technical ability there isn't any other player in the squad anywhere close to him other than Massengo.

Both those players receive the ball with their body position such that they receive and move - not receive, control, turn, then move.

Excellent player and probably a cut above BCFC as is Massengo.

He just needs to cut his cloth and try to fit in with the dross in the second tier of English hoof ball.

 

Nagy’s problem is that he played so well in his opening couple of games.  He then got injured, we aren’t playing quite as well and there’s pressure on him.  All whilst he’s adjusting to Championship football, a new country, etc.

Just need a bit of patience.  Like you, I think you can tell his qualities.

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15 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

In terms of technical ability there isn't any other player in the squad anywhere close to him other than Massengo.

Both those players receive the ball with their body position such that they receive and move - not receive, control, turn, then move.

Excellent player and probably a cut above BCFC as is Massengo.

He just needs to cut his cloth and try to fit in with the dross in the second tier of English hoof ball.

 

I’d say Palmer would har something to say about that!

15 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

In terms of technical ability there isn't any other player in the squad anywhere close to him other than Massengo.

Both those players receive the ball with their body position such that they receive and move - not receive, control, turn, then move.

Excellent player and probably a cut above BCFC as is Massengo.

He just needs to cut his cloth and try to fit in with the dross in the second tier of English hoof ball.

 

Palmer would have something to say about that!

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2 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

LJ said in Presser he may need another Operation

Playing through the pain then?  Same player people thought we should be kicking out of the club for not playing a couple of months back.

I wonder if they will consider getting Morrell back in case?

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On 30/12/2019 at 23:01, Davefevs said:

Nagy’s problem is that he played so well in his opening couple of games.  He then got injured, we aren’t playing quite as well and there’s pressure on him.  All whilst he’s adjusting to Championship football, a new country, etc.

Just need a bit of patience.  Like you, I think you can tell his qualities.

Without being harsh and whilst I agree with you and wish Adam all the best with finding full fitness we don’t have time for patience at this point in the season, we need someone who can play NOW! and try and push on and start winning games ....:yawn:

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28 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

LJ said in Presser he may need another Operation

Sounds like he hasn't been so fit then, post return?

Was he another who was rushed back or? Kalas feels like he maybe was another...let's hope DaSilva doesn't make it an unlucky hattrick- notable difference between "fit" ie uninjured and match fit...

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Sounds like he hasn't been so fit then, post return?

Was he another who was rushed back or? Kalas feels like he maybe was another...let's hope DaSilva doesn't make it an unlucky hattrick- notable difference between "fit" ie uninjured and match fit...

How many reserve games did Nagy, Kalas and Dasilva play to help get them back some match fitness? It seems they are just chucked back in with fingers crossed.

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1 minute ago, Smokey said:

How many reserve games did Nagy, Kalas and Dasilva play to help get them back some match fitness? It seems they are just chucked back in with fingers crossed.

Yep, a bit of a worrying theme- though I could be wrong of course.

I was worried too two years ago when Pisano made a bit of a sudden appearance at RB v Sheff Wed and O'Dowda a month later at Millwall.

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26 minutes ago, Slippin cider said:

Without being harsh and whilst I agree with you and wish Adam all the best with finding full fitness we don’t have time for patience at this point in the season, we need someone who can play NOW! and try and push on and start winning games ....:yawn:

Find the right forwards and you can then play Palmer as a genuine 10 in midfield. We have plenty of players to fill the remaining midfield places, all they need to do is get the ball to Palmer as quickly and as often as possible.  

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His continuing injury explains why he hasn’t looked on top form then. A shame we have such poor luck with injuries to our key signings. Full quote from LJ:

Adam’s ankle is affecting him. We’ve had a discussion on steps to take to ensure his ankle is in a better place.

These are the types of things people aren’t able to see. What we’re driving towards is a consistency and our performances of late have been too sporadic.

He can play but he is playing with pain, [an operation] is an option.

He’s a fantastic player and all we want is to help him.

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Get him in for the op so he’s ready and back to his best for next season. We have ample cover in Korey Smith and Han-Noah. Even Tommy Rowe could do a job for us there.

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42 minutes ago, eardun said:

His continuing injury explains why he hasn’t looked on top form then. A shame we have such poor luck with injuries to our key signings. Full quote from LJ:

Adam’s ankle is affecting him. We’ve had a discussion on steps to take to ensure his ankle is in a better place.

These are the types of things people aren’t able to see. What we’re driving towards is a consistency and our performances of late have been too sporadic.

He can play but he is playing with pain, [an operation] is an option.

He’s a fantastic player and all we want is to help him.

Notwithstanding LJ's mistakes, we have been royally shafted by injuries this season.

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Yes, get him fit for next season. No player can do themselves justice when playing high level / high intensity sport with an injury that potentially needs an operation.  It presumably explains why he looked such a high quality player early on in contrast to the relatively poor performances of late.

It''s the ideal chance to give Joe Morrell a chance and get a more effective central midfield that both protects the back four and provides some service to the forwards.

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Absolute shit by Nagy and Johnson why play unfit? Korey and Massengo been better than him by a country mile for the last 6 week!! Shambles by the club and player there!! 

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1 hour ago, eardun said:

His continuing injury explains why he hasn’t looked on top form then. A shame we have such poor luck with injuries to our key signings. Full quote from LJ:

Adam’s ankle is affecting him. We’ve had a discussion on steps to take to ensure his ankle is in a better place.

These are the types of things people aren’t able to see. What we’re driving towards is a consistency and our performances of late have been too sporadic.

He can play but he is playing with pain, [an operation] is an option.

He’s a fantastic player and all we want is to help him.

Sounds like LJ is making excuses again

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2 hours ago, Smokey said:

How many reserve games did Nagy, Kalas and Dasilva play to help get them back some match fitness? It seems they are just chucked back in with fingers crossed.

He always does it. Bailey Wright, Smith, Adelakun all had the same as well. It’s stupid.

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2 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

 

He always does it. Bailey Wright, Smith, Adelakun all had the same as well. It’s stupid.

And he wonders why they are never fully fit again or performing consistently.. Personally I don't think the squad is fit enough or shall I say he doesn't get them fit enough.

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1 hour ago, eardun said:

His continuing injury explains why he hasn’t looked on top form then. A shame we have such poor luck with injuries to our key signings. Full quote from LJ:

Adam’s ankle is affecting him. We’ve had a discussion on steps to take to ensure his ankle is in a better place.

These are the types of things people aren’t able to see. What we’re driving towards is a consistency and our performances of late have been too sporadic.

He can play but he is playing with pain, [an operation] is an option.

He’s a fantastic player and all we want is to help him.

Why play an injured player in a position we have cover? Piss poor by management and/or medical team. Nagy should feel a bit guilty for earlier in the season but don't aggravate matters and he should have been forced to ease back in when properly recovered post op if necessary. 

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2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Sounds like LJ is making excuses again

Definitely not unfortunately. There was an interview with him in a Hungarian newspaper 3 days before Christmas, he mentioned a lot of other things and also his ankle. He said he feels it's not 100%, only like 95% but 'the doctors at the club said it's absolutely normal after an injury like his' so he just keeps pushing... It would be a minor operation as I recall from the time LJ mentioned it, getting out that small extra bone, so the injury could heal up to 100%.

On a funny note he also said that the first few times he took a cab for training and he always wanted to yell at the driver going in the wrong lane.

 

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9 minutes ago, Hunsupport said:

Definitely not unfortunately. There was an interview with him in a Hungarian newspaper 3 days before Christmas, he mentioned a lot of other things and also his ankle. He said he feels it's not 100%, only like 95% but 'the doctors at the club said it's absolutely normal after an injury like his' so he just keeps pushing... It would be a minor operation as I recall from the time LJ mentioned it, getting out that small extra bone, so the injury could heal up to 100%.

On a funny note he also said that the first few times he took a cab for training and he always wanted to yell at the driver going in the wrong lane.

 

Thanks for your post. I don't mean LJ was making excuses for Nagy, but for himself and the team's poor results

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1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said:

Thanks for your post. I don't mean LJ was making excuses for Nagy, but for himself and the team's poor results

Oh, I understood that You meant that hence I wrote it. I might not post a lot but reading the (mostly rightfully I might say) LJ slackings and this time he's not making up any false excuses.

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If this is true (and no reason to suspect it isn’t), the question I have is why you bring him on against Brentford when the games lost? Get risking from the start or as sub when games in the balance but that just seems madness 

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1 hour ago, eardun said:

His continuing injury explains why he hasn’t looked on top form then. A shame we have such poor luck with injuries to our key signings. Full quote from LJ:

Adam’s ankle is affecting him. We’ve had a discussion on steps to take to ensure his ankle is in a better place.

These are the types of things people aren’t able to see. What we’re driving towards is a consistency and our performances of late have been too sporadic.

He can play but he is playing with pain, [an operation] is an option.

He’s a fantastic player and all we want is to help him.

I can only think a better place for his ankle remains at the base of his leg . 

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