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The hand of RO'D

Johnsons position under scrutiny.

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2 minutes ago, DSTAF said:

Then SL is the problem   

ah...if we're talking real progress over the decade...but that's another story...

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I have no info on whether the OP is correct but certainly I have never bought into the idea that Lee Johnson is untouchable or that SL and the board would refuse to act if it was in the best interests of the club.

Up until now, SL and the board have shown a lot of faith in LJ and certainly gambled by sticking with him during our disastrous run three seasons ago but ultimately they did that because they recognised his potential and that he had not chosen all of his back room team or players so they made changes to give him the best chance of success and, to be fair, he repaid them with season upon season improvement.

But they will be very aware of how much they have backed him and what our targets are. I think it is a massive error on anyone’s part to think the board’s backing is unconditional.

They have backed him because they think he can succeed. I am sure SL is no fool. If the evidence continues to suggest LJ is no longer the right man to take us forward, I have no doubt at all that he will act accordingly.

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13 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

You say that. Could be more helpful than having him down there! Can’t be any worse surely?

How’s he going to measure the length of the grass? This is a disaster 

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Just now, DT The Optimist said:

 Was concerned after LJ interview on radio Brizzle, when he saw lots positives !!   Sadly there were none to most of us, grasping at straws ?

  Fact is with the transfer window open, if , and a massive if, a change was to made, then it will happen PDQ to give who ever a chance ?  Warnock anyone !! Available after 'retiring'  I just wonder ?

Perhaps the positive he saw was he had just worked out how much of a pay off he would get if he's sacked now!  :)

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2 minutes ago, DSTAF said:

Then SL is the problem   

I am not so sure anymore! Jon is in charge now and dad could well be passing the decision making to him. To be frank, the idea that SL is not seething right now is a bit of a stretch. We are not good enough to compete with Brentfod.

 

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No Manager should be immune to scrutiny and 5 awful defeats in the last 6 should raise some serious questions.

I have no faith that his position is in danger but it bloody well should be. 

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Do we need to keep an eye on the Lansdown Stand roof for any announcements?

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1 minute ago, downendcity said:

Do we need to keep an eye on the Lansdown Stand roof for any announcements?

Maybe he’ll get lobbed off the roof if Shrewsbury stick 5 past us....

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2 minutes ago, dave36 said:

If only

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Don’t blame me! It’s some Leeds thing, the new bristol city account has 1 follower

dont shhot the meesenger

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2 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

....wasn't there also an incident with the opposition bench against Blackburn? 

He's obviously a coach feeling the pressure.

There's only so many times that you can be 'streaky" and get away with it. People are getting tired of it all now.

He seems to be losing it after very bad performance. He got it wrong today on a number of decisions. He Should have had the humility to admit it to the Press afterwards.

The scenes at end were embarrassing, with Frank trying to shake his hand. He felt professionally embarrassed by being shown up on the football field; and not for the first time this season is looking at another pitchside ban.

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6 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

....wasn't there also an incident with the opposition bench against Blackburn? 

Yes he had one of their coaches by throat at half time

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4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

You don’t know how that played out - if the rest of the board were definite Johnson needs to go, and it was totally unanimous - he wouldn’t ignore them.

Yes he would. He’d  take no notice of their views. 

SL is the main man - nothing major happens at AG without his approval.

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6 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

 Was concerned after LJ interview on radio Brizzle, when he saw lots positives !!   Sadly there were none to most of us, grasping at straws ?

  Fact is with the transfer window open, if , and a massive if, a change was to made, then it will happen PDQ to give who ever a chance ?  Warnock anyone !! Available after 'retiring'  I just wonder ?

I would take Warnock in a heartbeat!....

We love you Colin...Really we do!

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18 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

You say that. Could be more helpful than having him down there! Can’t be any worse surely?

It was away at Barnsley when 2-0 up and cruising then brings elliasson on as wing back 😂😂

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3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Yes he would. He’d  take no notice of their views. 

SL is the main man - nothing major happens at AG without his approval.

Indeed.

SL owns 99% of the club. Of course he listens to his board members but he is in a position of absolute control when it comes to the major decisions at the club. 

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8 minutes ago, lenred said:

But there’s only so many times that he will be given and protected - even by SL. 

What SL wants is progress season on season and thus far LJ has delivered. Why would SL take a relatively short number of games of poor results with 20 games still to go?

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I’d be amazed if SL got rid of Johnson now. He’s half a season into a 4 year deal, him and Ashton seem to work very closely together and talk a lot about ‘mutual trust’, and Johnson is absolutely intrinsic to everything the club are trying to do. He buys into the business model, is happy to trade players and his overall record until recently is one of steady improvement.

Regardless of how woeful the current form is, I just can’t see LJ being given his marching orders while we’re 2 points off the play offs. I’m not saying this is my view, just that this is how I Imagine the club to be thinking at the moment. 

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3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

SL owns 99% of the club. Of course he listens to his board members but he is in a position of absolute control when it comes to the major decisions at the club. 

Unfortunately Major some posters don’t really understand that.

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

What SL wants is progress season on season and thus far LJ has delivered. Why would SL take a relatively short number of games of poor results with 20 games still to go?

Because he has seen how much 'junior' is asking for in the window!

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5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Indeed.

SL owns 99% of the club. Of course he listens to his board members but he is in a position of absolute control when it comes to the major decisions at the club. 

Are you aware of any such conversations taking place??? 🤔

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10 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Yes he would. He’d  take no notice of their views. 

SL is the main man - nothing major happens at AG without his approval.

Yes, I’m not saying things happen without his approval - where did I say that?

To suggest he’d ignore the views of his board (including son) is ridiculous though. Obviously he has the final say.

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2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Why are you posting yours then 

Ummm...........this is a forum Steve...............:cool2:

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10 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

I would take Warnock in a heartbeat!....

We love you Colin...Really we do!

And me. Even with a reputation of playing ugly football I'd rather his with a good chance of winning then what we play now 

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6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What SL wants is progress season on season and thus far LJ has delivered. Why would SL take a relatively short number of games of poor results with 20 games still to go?

 Coz the football is cr@p and it’s getting worse

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Just now, city1983 said:

 Coz the football is cr@p and it’s getting worse

SL isn’t remotely interested in the style of football ffs.................:facepalm:

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35 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Got himself a red card too today.  Unless it gets overturned, that’s what a 3 game touchline?  Not very helpful is it in our current situation.

I would say it’s very helpful...............

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I'm not really in the LJ "in" or "out" camp, I just want to see a successful team and club. However the Shrewsbury game now becomes massively important.

Surely the guaranteed fan backlash (should we lose) would leave the owners with little choice...?

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5 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What SL wants is progress season on season and thus far LJ has delivered. Why would SL take a relatively short number of games of poor results with 20 games still to go?

No but as we slip further and further down the table even Lansdown will become increasingly impatient. Johnson needs an upturn in form very soon.

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4 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Are you aware of any such conversations taking place??? 🤔

I'd be surprised if there were serious conversations taking place in regard to LJs position, as of now. Very surprised. 

I think his position remains secure for the time being. 

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27 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It’s not run as a dictatorship, if the rest of the execs tell Lansdown he should go then he will listen.

Agreed. Jon Lansdown was made MD and is now Vice-Chairman which are positions which hold quite a degree of responsibility and I am sure allow him to make major decisions albeit with the backing of the board.

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9 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What SL wants is progress season on season and thus far LJ has delivered. Why would SL take a relatively short number of games of poor results with 20 games still to go?

A decent point and I’m sure Johnson’s position will not be scrutinised seriously until the seasons end or unless season ticket sales bomb. It’s a shame, referencing your other responses on this thread and many others, that you have to be such an abrasive, arrogant troll far too much of the time.

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

SL isn’t remotely interested in the style of football ffs.................:facepalm:

...and he doesn't seem that concerned about progress - for all the money spent we are currently one place above where we were on January 1st 2010.

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7 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Agreed. Jon Lansdown was made MD and is now Vice-Chairman which are positions which hold quite a degree of responsibility and I am sure allow him to make major decisions albeit with the backing of the board.

Jon is chairman

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5 minutes ago, One Team said:

LJ seemed quite relaxed in his post match interview to me and not a man under pressure or his position being at risk. 

Agreed. End of the season EARLIEST before it even becomes an issue imo.

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3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

A decent point and I’m sure Johnson’s position will not be scrutinised seriously until the seasons ends

Spot on.......
 

If LJ fails to finish above 8th this season it’ll be interesting to see what happens then................:dunno:

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1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Agreed. End of the season EARLIEST before it even becomes an issue imo.

Someone in the club must be looking at the poor quality football on offer and be thinking about how that might affect attendances, if attendances and subsequently season ticket sales falter, it is an issue.

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19 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Ummm...........this is a forum Steve...............:cool2:

Yes. Where people can post their opinions about football.

Usually shortly followed by some **** or other just posting "who cares?..."

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If SL wants any chance of promotion this season then he needs to act now. 
 

If he’s happy with it fizzling out then he need do nothing. 

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3 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

Jon is chairman

Exactly. Some people just don’t keep up. The running of the FC is being handed over. IF JL went to Steve and said the board no longer back the manager I’m confident SL would say -Jon do what you need to. 

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It would have to go pretty disastrously between now and the end of the season to get rid personally. If we don't go up this season then he's under immense pressure from game 1 next season.

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51 minutes ago, BCFC_95 said:

Problem is, now is a crap time to be looking at ditching your manager. Transfer window is open, LJ and the board have probably already outlined a few players who they may even have enquired about or have deals sorted. Say we get rid of him, is there anyone immediately ready to join and make signings? If not, how long will it take to get someone, will any of the window be left? It’s a bad time to sack someone IMO.

Transfer window makes no difference. 
Mark Ashton signs the players, whoever the manager is. If LJ leaves tomorrow and a new manager arrives next day, we’ll be targeting the exact same players this January. 

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13 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Whoosh

That’s a very transparent attempt at backpedaling there Steve..............:cool2:

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1 minute ago, Maesknoll Red said:

Someone in the club must be looking at the poor quality football on offer and be thinking about how that might affect attendances, if attendances and subsequently season ticket sales falter, it is an issue.

Given how many SC holders don't turn up at the moment, I would imagine the highlighted bit is a given if things stay as they are currently. 

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