Fordy62 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, RedDave said: You suggested the play offs is over which is clearly wrong I don’t think our play offs hopes are over if we sack LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: And five points off third. Doesn't exactly smack of "season over" just yet, does it? Joker. You’re an SL stooge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: And five points off third. Doesn't exactly smack of "season over" just yet, does it? We're moving in that direction though aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I don’t think our play offs hopes are over if we sack LJ. Out of interest, have you ever taken even a cursory glance at the success of SLs managerial picks at City? If you have, then you may wish to be careful what you wish for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, mozo said: We're moving in that direction though aren't we? Don’t waste your breath mate. This blokes a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'm afraid our board aren't clever enough to get rid early enough to avoid wasting the Jan window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: You say that. Could be more helpful than having him down there! Can’t be any worse surely? As you are a wmpc shouldn't you have him innocent until proven guilty as charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, DSTAF said: Then SL is the problem FFS. Look what the bloke has done for our club. Unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Poor season ticket sales would possibly move the situation forward BUT I think most people will renew regardless and moan from there!! Brentford showed us, the fans, what can be done in this league on a budget. The comparison between them and us was very sobering. We can all see it despite football employees like LJ thinking we know nothing. But will that bother SL? Who knows? Agreed Brentford are a very impressive club in many ways. Anyone else notice their pre-match routine where it appeared the whole team played across the entire half-pitch as if camped out in the opposition half? Pass, pass, pass, pass, out wide, ball across the middle, finish - repeat. It was evident they had a very particular way of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 punk Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 as kid in the riot said i can still remember the tinnion appointment after the wilson play off disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: FFS. Look what the bloke has done for our club. Unbelievable you missed out "Jeff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, 77 punk said: as kid in the riot said i can still remember the tinnion appointment after the wilson play off disaster i Kinda hoping today was LJ’s ‘Swansea’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, The hand of RO'D said: I have it on very good authority that LJs position as manager is under scrutiny tonight, not from Steve but a very close relation. I'm not going to post my source but feel free to go back through my last topics/posts for my credentials. My big concern is that he had been given considerably more lolly than any previous manager and we are not really progressing. In the meantime the squad is getting bigger and bigger which cannot be good for anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Redtucks said: ..........and 2 points off the play off zone! EDIT: Sorry just read that Red Dave and Kid in the Riot said basically the same thing. People were making this argument towards the end of last season when we only won 3 of 13 games. It always about how many points we were from 6th, but any sane person could see from our form that we were heading down the table. And we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Given current performance levels, do you have any faith that we will stay that close KitR? Obviously not given current performance levels. However, performance can improve! LJ has turned things around before and needs to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Out of interest, have you ever taken even a cursory glance at the success of SLs managerial picks at City? If you have, then you may wish to be careful what you wish for... You are so right. Whilst I don't rate LJ, or our chances of achieving a great deal under him, I have almost no confidence in SL replacing him with anyone better. And sadly there comes a point when commitment fades. Mediocrity is corrosive and was for my enjoyment of watching City in the years between GJ and Cotts. That said there will always be folk who are happy with us muddling along. I recall that even Keith Millen - Teflon Keith - had his glee club on here, for whom he was a messiah in waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, mozo said: People were making this argument towards the end of last season when we only won 3 of 13 games. It always about how many points we were from 6th, but any sane person could see from our form that we were heading down the table. And we did. I used to say it a lot, but I’ve stopped saying it, because I can’t keep saying it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Out of interest, have you ever taken even a cursory glance at the success of SLs managerial picks at City? If you have, then you may wish to be careful what you wish for... My argument would be that it can’t get any worse. I don’t recall any of our previous managers playing such consistently shit football (SOD aside). As much as Cotts got wrong, his football was still attacking towards the end and good to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Out of interest, have you ever taken even a cursory glance at the success of SLs managerial picks at City? Have you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, 77 punk said: as kid in the riot said i can still remember the tinnion appointment after the wilson play off disaster i Yep cheap option like Jamie Mac would be. SL needs to walk the talk if he is serious about where he wants the club to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: SL is still on the board. JL is effectively being paid to be chairman by his Dad. And you think JL holds the power? There are 4 members of the board: Steve and Jon Lansdown, Doug Harman and Mark Ashton. I'm sure they are all involved in discussions about the future direction of the club, but I would imagine Steve feels that his significant investment gives him the right to make the final call. I certainly wouldn't begrudge him that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Kinda hoping today was LJ’s ‘Swansea’. But for a couple of greedy Brentford decisions and it would've been 6 today, so LJ's Gary's "Cardiff" maybe. But we were only playing with 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: FFS. Look what the bloke has done for our club. Unbelievable Taken us all the way from 12th in the Championship on 1st January 2010...to 11th today - hoorah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Obviously not given current performance levels. However, performance can improve! LJ has turned things around before and needs to do it again. When has he turned it around, Steve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, boatman said: My big concern is that he had been given considerably more lolly than any previous manager and we are not really progressing. In the meantime the squad is getting bigger and bigger which cannot be good for anybody. That’s exactly it. No manager we’ve ever appointed before has had a squad like this. This is a really good squad with 10x more money spent on it than anyone else has ever had. A new manager would get to work with it, not the shitty excuses of squads other managers have inherited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: My argument would be that it can’t get any worse. I don’t recall any of our previous managers playing such consistently shit football (SOD aside). As much as Cotts got wrong, his football was still attacking towards the end and good to watch. SL didn't choose Cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Agreed Brentford are a very impressive club in many ways. Anyone else notice their pre-match routine where it appeared the whole team played across the entire half-pitch as if camped out in the opposition half? Pass, pass, pass, pass, out wide, ball across the middle, finish - repeat. It was evident they had a very particular way of playing. I did watch it. Very impressive, not sure our groundsman was very happy with it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Obviously not given current performance levels. However, performance can improve! LJ has turned things around before and needs to do it again. I am sympathetic towards this view and it’s the sort of thing I’ve said myself many times in the past. But how many more times to we need to give him the chance to “turn it around”? Do we never get to a point where we say he’s had enough chances? Previously I’ve felt he was probably about par but this now feels like substantial underachievement given the squad at his disposal. I’m running out of patience with the inconsistency of our performances, the lack of ant settled side, formation, tactics or generally any sense that we know how we want to play and how we’re going to do it. I’d welcome a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dave L said: There are 4 members of the board: Steve and Jon Lansdown, Doug Harman and Mark Ashton. I'm sure they are all involved in discussions about the future direction of the club, but I would imagine Steve feels that his significant investment gives him the right to make the final call. I certainly wouldn't begrudge him that right. That's Mark Ashton, also effectively paid by SL. Actually the same presumably applies to Harman too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 People defending LJ are obviously entirled to their opinion. But I would ask them all: when is the right time to replace LJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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