joe jordans teeth Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedM said: Maybe I’m wrong and should have a long hard look at myself but I don’t see Kasey as a black man anymore than I see Brownhill as a white man. They are both Bristol City players as far as I’m concerned. Seriously, am I wrong? Get those eyes checked,I get the sentiment in what you are saying tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 When the England cricket fans were singing this about Johnny Bairstow (many years before we adopted it) but using the line "I want ginger hair too" instead of dreadlocks like you. Was that also racist? Do you think they viewed Bairstow as a hyper-sexual, well endowed, object of transgressive lust?? Or do you think they just thought it was a bit of a laugh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Highguy said: I dont understand how this generation has so many snow flakes when they grew up watching south park and family guy How is singing about someone shagging your wife and wishing you had dreadlocks offensive I have no issues with it whatsoever, I talk about shagging other peoples wives all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Natchfever said: Don't be so exclusive. I'm a typist by trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Last time I looked, Soyuncu was a white bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 My afternoon was a tad ho hum till this thread reared up. Thanks all I have been crying laughing at some of the responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: No, that''s me. Careful, they've got whole restaurants on Gloucester Road these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Packman said: When the England cricket fans were singing this about Johnny Bairstow (many years before we adopted it) but using the line "I want ginger hair too" instead of dreadlocks like you. Was that also racist? Do you think they viewed Bairstow as a hyper-sexual, well endowed, object of transgressive lust?? Or do you think they just thought it was a bit of a laugh?? Clearly Section 82 had Mandingo Trope at the forefront of their thinking when they copied the song and made Kasey Palmer’s name fit the words.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, BCFCadam said: I mean Palmer himself said he likes it in the interview where he signed permanently And what exactly would he know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Christ on a ******* bike Bit offensive this.....I'm fairly sure that bikes weren't invented in the BCs! (This is clearly a whoosh!) Offensive?....what happens when people are offended?......nothing......that's democracy you have a right to be offended and (by definition) will inevitably offend. It's a sodding football chant - not a political manifesto/statement. Some white women like black men (and vice versa) - it's the 21st century.....get over it. Rant over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 This thread is on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: This thread is on fire I think you'll find that was the ex city player Luke Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Packman said: When the England cricket fans were singing this about Johnny Bairstow (many years before we adopted it) but using the line "I want ginger hair too" instead of dreadlocks like you. Was that also racist? Do you think they viewed Bairstow as a hyper-sexual, well endowed, object of transgressive lust?? Or do you think they just thought it was a bit of a laugh?? It's pretty clear who on this thread immediately thinks of a "hyper-sexual, well endowed, object of transgressive lust" when they hear the KP chant. 2 minutes ago, MelksRed said: Bit offensive this.....I'm fairly sure that bikes weren't invented in the BCs! (This is clearly a whoosh!) Offensive?....what happens when people are offended?......nothing......that's democracy you have a right to be offended and (by definition) will inevitably offend. It's a sodding football chant - not a political manifesto/statement. Some white women like black men (and vice versa) - it's the 21st century.....get over it. Rant over! Underrated pastiche of a famous phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 ]Exact same song about Collocini: Fellaini: David Luiz: ... And of all people, bloody Di Canio! Many more instances too. There's nothing racially motivated about it at all. The Fellaini one is a work of art by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: It's pretty clear who on this thread immediately thinks of a "hyper-sexual, well endowed, object of transgressive lust" when they hear the KP chant. Underrated pastiche of a famous phrase. The irony is amazing when you think about it. The “offended” is actually the most guilty party of all......nobody else has the faintest idea what they are going on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Badger08 said: So, you are on the fence then? The insult that only has three letters is puzzling me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hare Island said: What I fear is that the chant reinforces stereotypes present in the Mandingo trope, portraying men of colour as hyper sexual, well-endowed, objects of transgressive lust etc etc. Do you think Mandingo offended himself then when choosing his Pornstar name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambodinho Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 54 minutes ago, Hare Island said: This thread has descended as I feared. Apologies for any part I played in that, though it does make for depressing reading . I was trying to make a serious point upon which I will attempt to expand. What I fear is that the chant reinforces stereotypes present in the Mandingo trope, portraying men of colour as hyper sexual, well-endowed, objects of transgressive lust etc etc. To be clear - I am not accusing City fans of conscious discrimination or ill-will. such stereotypes are deeply ingrained and subconscious or accepted. But they can and should be called out. Basically a rehashing of the Lukaku Man Utd controversy of a few years back. This is a serious discussion so hopefully those posting funny gifs, personal insults etc have had their fill and can either reflect on the above or find another thread. Happy new year. So what you are insinuating is that the fans that sing this song either knowingly have wives that crave a good seeing to from a well endowed black gentleman or the men themselves have fantasies of a cuckold nature. What a weird thought process. Maybe your misses has begged you for a 3 way with a black man and as you’re not keen on the idea, the Kasey Palmer song upsets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, jambodinho said: So what you are insinuating is that the fans that sing this song either have wives that crave a good seeing to from a well endowed black gentleman or the men themselves have fantasies of a cuckold nature. What a weird thought process. Maybe your misses has begged you for a 3 way with a black man and as you’re not keen on the idea, the Kasey Palmer song upsets you. That made me spit my wine out !! Not pleasant for the ladies on the table next to me !! Then I have to explain why it happened ....... not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hare Island said: If Palmer stays beyond the transfer window I think the words to his chant must change. I know the song is sung with good intent, but sadly it reinforces racial stereotypes, tropes and fears about men of colour. No doubt I will get a few negative emojiis or ‘snowflake’ jibes for this post but hoping some will also like and take action. Judging by the reactions of your fellow posters in the words of the late great Dick Emery, DAD I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, pillred said: Judging by the reactions of your fellow posters in the words of the late great Dick Emery, DAD I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!! Just a tad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, pillred said: Judging by the reactions of your fellow posters in the words of the late great Dick Emery, DAD I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!! If the OP offended by the Kasey song we better not let him watch Dick Emery ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, MelksRed said: Bit offensive this.....I'm fairly sure that bikes weren't invented in the BCs! (This is clearly a whoosh!) Offensive?....what happens when people are offended?......nothing......that's democracy you have a right to be offended and (by definition) will inevitably offend. It's a sodding football chant - not a political manifesto/statement. Some white women like black men (and vice versa) - it's the 21st century.....get over it. Rant over! Sorry to be pedantic but Christ wasn't around in the BCs either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Hare Island said: This thread has descended as I feared. Apologies for any part I played in that, though it does make for depressing reading . I was trying to make a serious point upon which I will attempt to expand. What I fear is that the chant reinforces stereotypes present in the Mandingo trope, portraying men of colour as hyper sexual, well-endowed, objects of transgressive lust etc etc. To be clear - I am not accusing City fans of conscious discrimination or ill-will. such stereotypes are deeply ingrained and subconscious or accepted. But they can and should be called out. Basically a rehashing of the Lukaku Man Utd controversy of a few years back. This is a serious discussion so hopefully those posting funny gifs, personal insults etc have had their fill and can either reflect on the above or find another thread. Happy new year. Hyper sexual, well endowed, who in there right mind would read that as an insult, for most of us that would be I wish! when your at the bottom as they say stop digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Sorry to be pedantic but Christ wasn't around in the BCs either I doft my cap to thee sir....you are indeed correct.....(backpedalling frantically).....need I point out that he was 'around' for 9 months before he was born therefore effecting in the BCs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, pillred said: Judging by the reactions of your fellow posters in the words of the late great Dick Emery, DAD I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!! I suspect it's all quite deliberate. 25 minutes ago, MelksRed said: I think you'll find that was the ex city player Luke Freeman That's probably deeply offensive to firemen, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, MelksRed said: I doft my cap to thee sir....you are indeed correct.....(backpedalling frantically).....need I point out that he was 'around' for 9 months before he was born? Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Who needs transfer rumours when you have comedy gold like this. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Who cares about our league position when we have threads like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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