glen humphries Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I’ve gone past the angry stage, I’m now really saddened by the state the teams in , its getting to the point where I’m losing interest in the team I’ve watched for over 30 years, Johnson out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think it's a sham that Johnson has a job for life charlatan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, glen humphries said: I’ve gone past the angry stage, I’m now really saddened by the state the teams in , its getting to the point where I’m losing interest in the team I’ve watched for over 30 years, Johnson out. Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted January 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. There were big reasons for our last relegation, sod never had fortunes to spend, I’m saddened because of how we play it’s dire , we beat Fulham so what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. We are playing SOD-type football. Aimless possession at snails pace, with no real excitement or end product. But LJ is clearly bonkers as he cant see it. Just at the moment we are in a high league than SOD inherited, with absolute fortunes spent on a tinkerman approach with zero identity as he calls it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abingdon Red Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, nickolas said: We are playing SOD-type football. Aimless possession at snails pace, with no real excitement or end product. But LJ is clearly bonkers as he cant see it. Just at the moment we are in a high league than SOD inherited, with absolute fortunes spent on a tinkerman approach with zero identity as he calls it. I think it's more like McInnes type football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Abingdon Red said: I think it's more like McInnes type football. Sh1te probably covers it either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. Yes it is sadder the football on show is much worse then that dispute millions being spent we are lucky to be 2 points off the play-offs but if things don’t change quick that 2 points will be off relegation not the play offs we are in relegation form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lez said: I think it's a sham that Johnson has a job for life charlatan. I’m sure his tenure is seriously under scrutiny.SL wants Prem football now that Ashton gate’s been redeveloped, Especially with the financial rewards it brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. You forgot that we beat Man United in the cup as well a few seasons ago which Johnson’s followers always bring up as if it’s relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Abingdon Red said: I think it's more like McInnes type football. The difference is that McInnes was not backed in the way that LJ has been. I would actually suggest that given the resources Delboy had, Johnson would do worse than he did. LJ’s managerial career highlight was our League Cup run 2 years ago. He has done little else of any significant note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lez said: I think it's a sham that Johnson has a job for life charlatan. He doesn’t, and it’s a lazy, unfounded criticism to suggest that he has. He narrowly survived once in 16/17 and has ultimately been in credit for steady progression up the league ever since, meaning there hasn’t been good reason to question his position. That’s not the same thing as a “job for life”. And don’t interpret that as me being pro-Johnson staying by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, ChippenhamRed said: He doesn’t, and it’s a lazy, unfounded criticism to suggest that he has. He narrowly survived once in 16/17 and has ultimately been in credit for steady progression up the league ever since, meaning there hasn’t been good reason to question his position. That’s not the same thing as a “job for life”. And don’t interpret that as me being pro-Johnson staying by the way. Hard to argue with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, glen humphries said: I’ve gone past the angry stage, I’m now really saddened by the state the teams in , its getting to the point where I’m losing interest in the team I’ve watched for over 30 years, Johnson out. I also think it’s time for Johnson to go, but the lack of perspective on our situation as a club right now compared to almost any point in the last 40 years is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 The catastrophic decline in the early 80s was sad...depressing...but once the guts had been ripped out of the club it felt inevitable, and we all had a role as supporters in keeping spirits up and the club functioning. What's sadder about this is that there is no real excuse. There are more season ticket holders than ever. The playing squad is full of internationals. The skill some of these guys have is wonderful to watch, when they show it. Steve Lansdown has the reverse Midas touch when it comes to managerial appointments and as a consequence a decade after the hopes of GJ's reign we are no further forward, and looking like going backwards. That is sad. Opportunity being shown the door yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: You forgot that we beat Man United in the cup as well a few seasons ago which Johnson’s followers always bring up as if it’s relevant Compare our recent performance to those cup games. Our current style and form would see us struggle right through the levels of the EFL LJ has to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. Job for Cotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I've reached the point where I just keep checking bbc sport until I see the article titled 'Bristol City sack manager'. Until then I'm not really bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: He doesn’t, and it’s a lazy, unfounded criticism to suggest that he has. He narrowly survived once in 16/17 and has ultimately been in credit for steady progression up the league ever since, meaning there hasn’t been good reason to question his position. That’s not the same thing as a “job for life”. And don’t interpret that as me being pro-Johnson staying by the way. Agree with you and not sure how accurate the commentator in the stream was but he mentioned that no club in all 4 divisions have improved their league position over the last 5 years other than Bristol city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted January 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I also think it’s time for Johnson to go, but the lack of perspective on our situation as a club right now compared to almost any point in the last 40 years is getting ridiculous. I’m not talking about the club on the whole just the absolute dross lj is serving up , the blokes a bullshiter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, dave36 said: Compare our recent performance to those cup games. Our current style and form would see us struggle right through the levels of the EFL LJ has to go! Read it again lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Agree with you and not sure how accurate the commentator in the stream was but he mentioned that no club in all 4 divisions have improved their league position over the last 5 years other than Bristol city That is correct. An inconvenient fact for some. But now is the time for a change I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: He doesn’t, and it’s a lazy, unfounded criticism to suggest that he has. He narrowly survived once in 16/17 and has ultimately been in credit for steady progression up the league ever since, meaning there hasn’t been good reason to question his position. That’s not the same thing as a “job for life”. And don’t interpret that as me being pro-Johnson staying by the way. Lez knows all that, Chip - he is telling you, me, everyone how he feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, harvey54 said: I've reached the point where I just keep checking bbc sport until I see the article titled 'Bristol City sack manager'. Until then I'm not really bothered Well said sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sadder than when we were nearly bottom of League 1 under O’Driscoll? Sadder than when we were last relegated from the Championship? Sadder than the season under Pulis? We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. Agreed. I want him out but things are massively rosy compared to O'Driscoll times. I'm more concerned by the plastic/corporate/silent nature of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefence Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: We’re having a bad time at the moment, but let’s not forget that less than a month ago, after the Fulham victory, we were close to third place. Even now we’re only two points off the play-offs. Clearly all is not right, but let’s not pretend that we’re at rock-bottom. Things could be a lot worse. Do you believe we actually deserved to be where we were after the Fulham game? Personally I don't think we were there on merit, perhaps not luck alone as we have flattered to deceive on a few occasions this season. But, and its a BIG but, we are not worthy of the lofty heights we reached with the inconsistent football we play. I have no idea what our so called identity is, and im pretty sure LJ doesn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I wouldn’t say it’s sad. But it is hair-tearingly frustrating that with millions spent, arguably our best ever squad, and a poor championship this season we look so utterly despondent and boring. It’s never guaranteed, but if a bit of ‘honeymoon’ form came with a new manager now we’d stand a very good chance of making the play-offs this season still. At the moment it just feels stale. I would absolutely thank LJ for what’s he’s achieved here (and despite what some may say, we have progressed since he arrived) but I feel we need a change to kick on. Our policy has been quite ruthless with players (Pack, Pato and so on) and now it might be time to do it with our manager too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I really think that there are some amongst us who want us to get relegated just so we can relive the promotion again. For me, LJ isn’t bulletproof (nobody is), but 2 points (1 game) away from the playoffs isn’t the time to fire the manager - we would be the laughing stock of the league and rightfully so. Also, it may not all be down to him - as a football manager you tell your players how to play and if they don’t do as they are told - or CAN’T do as they are told, it’s not entirely your fault. I’m firmly with the ‘LJ in’ crowd - for now. Sacking now would be a huge gamble and could see us fighting a relegation battle - and the rest of the league would absolutely LOVE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langford Red Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Im just sick and fed up of hearing his Bla Bla Voice Why can't SL see and hear it LJ is a millionaire now due to City Now move on, and let City progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said: I really think that there are some amongst us who want us to get relegated just so we can relive the promotion again. For me, LJ isn’t bulletproof (nobody is), but 2 points (1 game) away from the playoffs isn’t the time to fire the manager - we would be the laughing stock of the league and rightfully so. Also, it may not all be down to him - as a football manager you tell your players how to play and if they don’t do as they are told - or CAN’T do as they are told, it’s not entirely your fault. I’m firmly with the ‘LJ in’ crowd - for now. Sacking now would be a huge gamble and could see us fighting a relegation battle - and the rest of the league would absolutely LOVE it. As a counterpoint, look what happened when Southampton sacked Nigel Adkins and replaced him with Pocchetino (or however it’s spelt!). The whole football world fumed at how ‘disloyal’ they were. Then they stormed up the league. If we as a club are ruthless with moving on loyal/successful players in order to improve, why not do the same with the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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