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Monday....decision day!?

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2 minutes ago, Leveller said:

Winnings always fun. At the end.

Well City have won plenty of games in the last eighteen months which I haven’t enjoyed in the slightest other than the result so I would dispute that.

No point continuing this though really, I fully understand why some may not have enjoyed the games in that playoff season, personally I did though.

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5 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

So you would have sacked him with 6 games remaining ?

(we won 4 and drew 1 of those games)

No but my point is the even after much worse positions than we are currently in, he has never gone. 

Our form did pick up then - a bit like it could do now. 

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6 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Well City have won plenty of games in the last eighteen months which I haven’t enjoyed in the slightest other than the result so I would dispute that.

No point continuing this though really, I fully understand why some may not have enjoyed the games in that playoff season, personally I did though.

That’s why I said “at the end”. Because a game can be mediocre and stressful, but gaining three points is always a pleasure at the final whistle,  regardless of how it happened.

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36 minutes ago, Robbored said:

And that’s the difference - the Championship was different back then and somehow GJ managed to get results despite serving up drab and dreary football. The final goals for that season was +1 with turbo Jevons as top scorer with a massive 7 goals...............:rofl2br:

It all boils down, as always to results and LJ hasn’t been getting good results over the last few games so his critics moan about the dismal football...........you really couldn’t make it up, you really couldn’t............:cool2:

The football under gj wasn’t anywhere near as drab as your trying to make out

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Just now, Leveller said:

That’s why I said “at the end”. Because a game can be mediocre and stressful, but gaining three points is always a pleasure at the final whistle,  regardless of how it happened.

I’m not sure why this is still going.

I enjoyed watching those game at the time. They’ve won games in the last eighteen months that I haven’t enjoyed watching. I looked forward to games that season, I’ve barely looked forward to games in the last eighteen months even when the form table has been positive.

Proving that I didn’t just enjoy the games that season purely because City we’re winning.

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2 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Proving that I didn’t just enjoy the games that season purely because City we’re winning.

That’s exactly how felt BR.

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57 minutes ago, miser said:

Hope he stays - I've booked train to Shrewsbury just to boo him.

when is the replay?

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1 hour ago, kivsy said:

That was when Magnússon was frozen out.  Despite being a sub I think and already 3 or 4 down !

Another player that was treated poorly.

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36 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Not personal experience at all - just his pre and post match interviews. The guy never ever said anything of substance - hot air and bluff in other words.

@Robbored Hang on me old fruit.

Didn't GJ invite you into his office for a little chat?

If so did you have the minerals to attend?  

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

LJ critics will continue to call for his head regardless. They’re like dogs with a bone.................:disapointed2se:

Of course, none of them have a legitimate argument. They're all sh** stirrers, eager to remove LJ because it's LJ 🤐

Have I got that right? 

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20 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

I’m not sure why this is still going.

I enjoyed watching those game at the time. They’ve won games in the last eighteen months that I haven’t enjoyed watching. I looked forward to games that season, I’ve barely looked forward to games in the last eighteen months even when the form table has been positive.

Proving that I didn’t just enjoy the games that season purely because City we’re winning.

It’s still going because I keep replying and you keep replying to my replies! It’s a discussion. That’s what happens on a forum.

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1 hour ago, Top Robin said:

Just wondering if tomorrow could be the decision day regarding Lee's future.

Its the first proper 'working' day since the christmas and new year break and following Saturdays debarcle. Someone in an earlier thread suggested that there is usually a 'board' meeting on Monday mornings and if there wasnt one planned, I would suspect there is now.

Wonder if its curtains for Lee or will he be given extra time. 

After Luton I would have put it 70/30% in Lee's favour but now after Brentford and Shrewsbury and the other recent poor results I recon its 50/50.

If they were going to sack him, why would they wait till the following Monday morning, SC got sacked on the Saturday eve after the game 8.30pm by text, 

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3 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

If they were going to sack him, why would they wait till the following Monday morning, SC got sacked on the Saturday eve after the game 8.30pm by text, 

By Text? 

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56 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Because the football served up by his old man was as bad, if not worse than what LJ is serving up. Plus GJ was full of bluff and hot air in interviews. He never said anything of substance unlike his son who is far more open and honest than his old man ever was.

Very similar traits between father and son. Throwing players under the bus when it goes wrong, taking credit when it goes well. 

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3 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

Of course, none of them have a legitimate argument. They're all sh** stirrers, eager to remove LJ because it's LJ 🤐

Have I got that right? 

That’s a good shout..................:cool2:
 

Problem is that unless LJ takes us in to danger of relegation SL will stick by his man so there’s absolutely no point in calling for a change of manager right now.

That said, come April/May if LJ hasn’t been able to achieve a better Championship finish than last season  then SL might act then........:dunno:

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3 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said:

Come on @Robbored don’t just put a confused emjoi spill the beans...

 

No relevance to this thread so I’m confused why you bothered to post it...........

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Massively surprised where we  are in the table compared to how bad performances have been . Maybe some of the chopping and changing might work  in the Premiership where the Caliber of player is significantly higher than the championship . Maybe lee is ahead of his time at Ashton gate with his drones and dna . 

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1 hour ago, Med/MadHatter said:

No chance he will be gone tomorrow, SL stated top 6 is the target earlier this season, and until that is out if reach i believe LJ will still be in place.Even if that happens i still think he will be here until at least the end of the season

I agree with that, with the one caveat that I think he will go earlier if it becomes clear he cannot turn things around. But the absolute earliest I can see that happening is after the QPR game. If we lose the next four and get knocked out the cup I can see a change being made but I certainly don’t think anything will happen tomorrow.

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He’s not going anywhere before the end of the season so waste of time and energy thinking otherwise IMHO.

The only possibility he’ll be fired before end of season is if we fall into relegation zone, which is something I don’t think will happen. 
Personally I think he’s taken us as far as he can and I thank him for establishing us as a top half championship team. However, I’m not convinced he’ll take us to the next level and it’s time for the baton to be handed to someone who can.

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1 hour ago, kivsy said:

His team is going backwards , no playing identity.  
if you’re happy to watch crap football every week more fool you.  

So you calling city fans fools eh? 

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48 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

If they were going to sack him, why would they wait till the following Monday morning, SC got sacked on the Saturday eve after the game 8.30pm by text, 

The by text thing maybe or may not be true but for the record Cotts was sacked on a Thursday or maybe a Wednesday, anyway it followed a midweek home loss to Preston.

As I recall he had a row with a fan at the end? 

McInnes was sacked on a Saturday evening yes. Others, I can't remember.

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2 hours ago, kivsy said:

Sadly lee isn’t going anywhere, Steve’s family friend , has years to run on his contract, despite claiming we want premier league football , since Johnson’s been here we haven’t as much had a play off campaign, so what makes people think we can get in the play offs this year ? Or achieve premier league football . 
he’s signed 60 odd players , chops and changes formation from week to week , no wonder the players are confused ! 
they’re the lucky ones , some others get frozen out ,or sent on loan .

hes been here 4 years and playing wise we’ve regressed , no identity unlike Brentford for example.  
I’m all for stability, this has gone stale 

Steve should be showing leadership , not allowing lee to drift along from year to time year ending up In roughly the same league position each year , although one place higher or one goal more is wildly celebrated by some. 
 

‘Playing wise we’ve regressed’?  Were you at Fulham?  Did you see the home wins over Huddersfield and Luton.  Do tell me how you see that as a regression from our first season back in the Championship?

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29 minutes ago, Robbored said:

No relevance to this thread so I’m confused why you bothered to post it...........

You started that GJ didn’t ever say a thing pre or post match so I simply asked if he said much when he invited you into his office ? That’s if you even went to the meeting? Touched a nerve have I? 

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

LJ critics will continue to call for his head regardless. They’re like dogs with a bone.................:disapointed2se:

I have never called for his head. In fact I’ve mocked those with their painted bedsheets many times in the past.

But I’m no fool. As others have said when you compare our progress with that of others we’ve at best stood still. At worst we’ve gone backwards.

We all got wrapped up in drinking energy drinks and beating Man Utd and taking City so bloody close. We got excited by the prospect of Tammy and getting JD, Kalas and the bloke who can shag my wife.

Christ almighty I even forked our £300 for a bloody flag for the boy from Father ******* Christmas.

And yet here we are again. A draw in the FA cup against Shrewsbury. Dire performances for months before that.

Week in week out we have to endure this sort of shit. And then we win away at Fulham and we go again.....

Consistency. That’s all I want. With some passion and effort. And a manager or head coach who can I still that in his chosen 11. 

I’m afraid I don’t see LJ doing that any time soon. He’s accountable for this mess. And SL is ultimately accountable for that.

And as for no more sheep pies.......

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1 hour ago, mozo said:

Another way of looking at it is, people like them, let's make some more...

Hahahahaha. Brilliant!

 

I got it!

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4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

‘Playing wise we’ve regressed’?  Were you at Fulham?  Did you see the home wins over Huddersfield and Luton.  Do tell me how you see that as a regression from our first season back in the Championship?

We've regressed from two seasons ago and in some ways last season.

Luton at home was alright but their away record is something terrible and they're very leaky defensively and especially on the road. 

Huddersfield was good. Performance was enjoyable too!

Fulham was quite good but a fantastic result. We had to absorb quite a lot of pressure but yeah, all good. 

In all 3, even Luton at home though we didn't have so much possession, Fwiw. When we did have it though, we were good. 

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9 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said:

Consistency. That’s all I want. With some passion and effort. And a manager or head coach who can I still that in his chosen 11. 

I’m afraid I don’t see LJ doing that any time soon. He’s accountable for this mess. And SL is ultimately accountable for that.

Everyone even remotely involved in football, managers, players, referees, tv pundits and of course us fans want consistency......it’s a sought after quality and currently only Liverpool have it.

I don’t believe that City are in a mess either - we’re just in a poor run of results. We’ve been here many, many times over many, many seasons and we’ll come thru it.

Obviously LJ wants consistency as much as anyone and its his job to try and achieve it - we can see that by the different players/systems and formations he employs but in recent games but it’s been evasive but I’m confident he’ll get it back.

Patience boys and girls..............:cool2:

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

That’s a good shout..................:cool2:
 

Problem is that unless LJ takes us in to danger of relegation SL will stick by his man so there’s absolutely no point in calling for a change of manager right now.

That said, come April/May if LJ hasn’t been able to achieve a better Championship finish than last season  then SL might act then........:dunno:

This is what bothers me. Seems to be that 1 place better is, well, objectively, improvement, disregarding everything else. 

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2 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

There has to be a point when The Lansdowns must consider season ticket sales for next season. Surely. 
 

Or am I just clutching at straws?

 

For some who's quite a sensible poster you are so out of touch with the LJ debate it's unreal. 

LJ out brigade is a minority and would have little if no effect on season ticket sales fordy. 

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2 minutes ago, Spoons said:

For some who's quite a sensible poster you are so out of touch with the LJ debate it's unreal. 

LJ out brigade is a minority and would have little if no effect on season ticket sales fordy. 

I think you’re underestimating the quality (or lack of) of football. 

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1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

I think you’re underestimating the quality (or lack) of football. 

Did the same lack of quality football under GJ effect season card sales? 

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1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

I think you’re underestimating the quality (or lack of) of football. 

Fordy with all due respect I've been going down the gate since 1989 and understand what quality football is/isn't. Clearly this is the worse spell of football and quality of football we've had under LJ but my belief is your expectations are set way to high. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Hahahahaha. Brilliant!

 

I got it!

Any opportunity to crowbar a bit of Alan into the conversation 😉

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2 hours ago, Robbored said:

Not at all.......it’s just that my memory plays tricks at my age, particularly when City  scored so few  goals that season. I’m surprised you can remember but then you probably looked it up.................:cool2:

I just know that Jevons didn’t score any championship goals for us at all, ever 

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52 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said:

I’ve never seen or been aware of that. Sounds very un SL like? 

SL didn't sack SC, it was Keith Dawes, he was chairman of Bristol City at the time, he did it by text, 

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6 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

SL didn't sack SC, it was Keith Dawes, he was chairman of Bristol City at the time, he did it by text, 

Does it really matter in which way SC was sacked?   Point is he was sacked.......

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20 minutes ago, mozo said:

Any opportunity to crowbar a bit of Alan into the conversation 😉

I’ve just rewatched This Time on bbc iPlayer. I reckon it was better second time around. 

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2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Not saying you are incorrect for a minute, but I’ve seen LJ referred to as ‘Lansdown’s family friend’ on here a zillion times - I may have been on Mars , but has there actually been any proof of a close relationship with the Lansdowns away from football? Apologies if I’ve missed anything, Merlot and Malbec can do that! 🍷

Hope you're not mixing those?!  Malbec all day long over Merlot....

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2 hours ago, RedM said:

Someone else said the same thing to me recently, whilst I agree I would argue that every year we seem to have a load saying they won’t renew but somehow we end up with the same amount of ST holders, if not more. 

I havent heard great rejoicing about the numbers of half ST this season yet, so I guess there wasn’t much uptake which could make SL think, but I reckon he will just put that down to no Carabao Cup run.

it says SOLD OUT on website ?

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2 hours ago, Harry said:

There’s currently 14 threads on the first page of the forum which are discussing LJ’s position. 
Was it necessary to start another one? 

One hadnt been started for a couple of hours and I was getting cold turkey

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1 hour ago, ziderheadarmy said:

You started that GJ didn’t ever say a thing pre or post match so I simply asked if he said much when he invited you into his office ? That’s if you even went to the meeting? Touched a nerve have I? 

@Robbored well? 

19 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

SL didn't sack SC, it was Keith Dawes, he was chairman of Bristol City at the time, he did it by text, 

Classless that. 

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6 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

it says SOLD OUT on website ?

Strange we haven't been told the new numbers yet, but maybe this the first week back for many staff? I don't personally know of anyone who purchased one this season. Could the sold out status mean that they went off sale and are no longer available perhaps?

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6 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said:

@Robbored well? 

It’s been done to death ZHA...........are you living in the past?

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2 minutes ago, RedM said:

Strange we haven't been told the new numbers yet, but maybe this the first week back for many staff? I don't personally know of anyone who purchased one this season. Could the sold out status mean that they went off sale and are no longer available perhaps?

yes, possibly. There weren't many left when my friend was looking in November, she didn't get one in the end.

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